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01:04 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: do you know the reason why we multiple RPCTimerInterface?
01:04 < jonasschnelli> Is it because the RPCRunLater() needs to be called from the GUI whenever one used the GUI console?
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01:16 < GitHub182> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #7317: Fix RPCTimerInterface ordering issue (master...2016/01/qt_thread) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7317
01:17 < wumpus> jonasschnelli: no, the reason is that one may use the RPC console without the web server running
01:17 < wumpus> the two timer interfaces should be equivalent, the only difference is that one uses libevent's timer mechanism and the other qt's
01:18 < jonasschnelli> Right. The problem is, that dispatching a QThread from a non QThread (events timer meachism) won't work.
01:18 < wumpus> fuck fuck fuck
01:19 < wumpus> does it dispatch a thread? I thought it just creates a timer?
01:20 < wumpus> this makes things a lot more complex 
01:20 < jonasschnelli> I mean it's only the walletphassphrase call... (an important one)
01:20 < wumpus> the idea behind a generic timer interface was that it doesn't matter who provides the timer 'service'
01:21 < wumpus> but apparently it does
01:21 < jonasschnelli> I think it should always use the libevent timer routine if available.
01:21 < wumpus> so I'm afrid we'll have to pass the 'RPC context' all the way down
01:21 < jonasschnelli> my PR https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7317 is a quick fix.
01:21 < jonasschnelli> It does not make things more worse..
01:22 < wumpus> hm but it makes an assumption of the order of interfaces in timerInterfaces
01:22 < wumpus> I agree with your logic though
01:22 < wumpus> but we should spell it out explicitly, 'if libevent is available use that otherwise fall back to qt'
01:23 < wumpus> otherwise there are a tons of ways future "harmless refactors" can mess this up again
01:24 < jonasschnelli> right.. so should I add a priority (int) in the timer interface and always use the one with highest prio?
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01:24 < jonasschnelli> Or other concepts?
01:24 < wumpus> yea.. that sounds good to me
01:24 < wumpus> or just have explicit logic in the GUI
01:25 < wumpus> install a timer interface only when APpInit() hasn't installed one
01:25 < wumpus> I think that's even more straightforward
01:25 < wumpus> have a single timer interface instead of a list o them
01:26 < jonasschnelli> ah... right... don't add the QTTimerInterface when there is already one.
01:26 < wumpus> yes
01:26 < jonasschnelli> okay.. i try to change it to only support one timer interface.
01:26 < wumpus> that's what we effectively want, one timer interface, but I thought they were equivalent so 'picking one' was fine, apparantly not :(
01:27 < wumpus> I hope it isn't a problem the other way around, using libevent timer mechanism when talking to qt
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01:27 < wumpus> in that case we really need an rpc 'context'
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01:32 < jonasschnelli> sorry, sorry, MarcoFalke just told me the fact that i did push branches to bitcoin/bitcoin, will delete them immediately! that git beast! 
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01:34 < jonasschnelli> will keep three of them until the related PRs closed (to avoid close/reopen).
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01:36 < wumpus> oh I also did that by accident once, no problem, just remove them when they're done
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02:14 < GitHub110> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #7318: Backport: quickfix for RPC timer interface problem (0.12...2016/01/bp_rpctimerinterface) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7318
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02:25 < GitHub85> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #7319: [Backport 0.12][QT] Intro: Display required space (0.12...2016/01/bp_qtintrodatadirsize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7319
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03:27 < MarcoFalke> Are any merges planned before the rc1 tag?
03:27 < MarcoFalke> Any pulls need testers?
03:29 < btcdrak> MarcoFalke: I dont think you can have an RC until the remaining 0.12 tagged PRs are merged. 
03:30 < btcdrak> MarcoFalke: else it cant be a release candidate by very definition (if stuff is pending), unless it's being specifically excluded for the next maintenance release.
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04:15 < GitHub182> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7320: [qa] Test walletpassphrase timeout (master...Mf1601-rpcWalletPass) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7320
04:15 < MarcoFalke> How can I delete a walletpassphrase?
04:17 < jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: you can't :)
04:17 < jonasschnelli> export / create new / import
04:18 < MarcoFalke> ok, thx.
04:31 < MarcoFalke> I need a reminder to run `BITCOIND=bitcoin-qt qa/pull-tester/rpc-tests.py` whenever I leave home.
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04:35 < GitHub123> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7321: Always respect GetRequiredFee for wallet txs (master...Mf1601-walletFeeFix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7321
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08:33 < GitHub113> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ff9b61002606...1320300ea11f
08:33 < GitHub113> bitcoin/0.12 b1a8374 MarcoFalke: [qt] Intro: Display required space...
08:33 < GitHub139> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7319: [Backport 0.12][Qt] Intro: Display required space (0.12...2016/01/bp_qtintrodatadirsize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7319
08:33 < GitHub113> bitcoin/0.12 1320300 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7319...
08:33 < GitHub91> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7318: [Backport 0.12][RPC] quickfix for RPC timer interface problem (0.12...2016/01/bp_rpctimerinterface) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7318
08:33 < GitHub151> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1320300ea11f...9265e89a7778
08:33 < GitHub151> bitcoin/0.12 daa8da2 Jonas Schnelli: Backport: quickfix for RPC timer interface problem
08:33 < GitHub151> bitcoin/0.12 9265e89 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7318...
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08:34 < GitHub143> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/3b57e9cff09c528201246dbc7b890c1593e49fb1
08:34 < GitHub143> bitcoin/master 3b57e9c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7317...
08:35 < GitHub60> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7317: Fix RPCTimerInterface ordering issue (master...2016/01/qt_thread) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7317
08:36 < GitHub134> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3b57e9cff09c...9de541a9c95a
08:36 < GitHub134> bitcoin/master f61766b Alex Morcos: Make sure conflicted wallet tx's update balances
08:36 < GitHub134> bitcoin/master 9de541a Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7306...
08:36 < GitHub101> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7306: Make sure conflicted wallet tx's update balances (master...fixconflicts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7306
08:38 < GitHub2> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/4707797df2d41d46a40f59977738e58f87a949fe
08:38 < GitHub2> bitcoin/0.12 4707797 Alex Morcos: Make sure conflicted wallet tx's update balances...
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09:49 < Quent> hey, when is the next release do we know?
09:51 < MarcoFalke> Feb 1
09:51 < MarcoFalke> rc1 is today or Monday, I think
09:51 < Quent> thanks
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10:28 < MarcoFalke> morcos?
10:28 < MarcoFalke> rpc tests look fine but there is a typo which makes travis fail
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10:37 < GitHub174> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #7322: c++11: add scoped enum fallbacks to CPPFLAGS rather than defining them locally (master...c++11-prep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7322
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11:06 < morcos> MarcoFalke: thanks. fixed.
11:07 < cfields> wumpus: I have a few questions in to Travis about how to proceed. There are several paths we could take, all missing one thing or another. I'm looking to find out what's most likely to be fixed first
11:08 < cfields> worst case, i guess we can just leave c++11 disabled for win32 builds temporarily, as that's the most troublesome
11:15 < phantomcircuit> sipa, in FRESH/DIRTY in coins.h "parent" means closer to disk, right?
11:15 < sipa> phantomcircuit: yes
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11:31 < phantomcircuit> sipa, is it possible for FRESH to be set but not DIRTY ?
11:34 < phantomcircuit> sipa, also, why does CCoinsViewCache::BatchWrite erase the entires from the batch?
11:34 < sipa> phantomcircuit: to avoid a copy
11:34 < sipa> phantomcircuit: otherwise you'd get a memory usage doubling whenever you're flushing
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11:51 < phantomcircuit> sipa, so the cacheCoins.clear(); in CCoinsViewCache::Flush never does anything?
11:56 < sipa> phantomcircuit: deleting the map's storage?
11:56 < sipa> unsure, not looking at code now
11:57 < phantomcircuit> sipa, cacheCoins.size() == 0 always before it's called
11:59 < phantomcircuit> oh ok nvm then :)
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12:48 < morcos> phantomcircuit: i had questions about that too, and i'd love it if you want to look at #6936 and figure out why the performance improvement isn't as good as you might expect
12:54 < cfields> morcos: i just spent a ton of time in there, i'd be happy to talk it through if you'd like
12:54 < cfields> morcos: haha, just looked at your PR. I was hacking on the same goal :)
12:54 < morcos> cfields: great, thanks.  maybe next week we can chat on it?
12:55 < cfields> sure
12:58 < cfields> morcos: fwiw, i was doing a test, and just hacked it up to always keep _all_ tx in the cache (to test the penalty of going to disk on osx) and the difference was very significant
12:58 < cfields> so i'm surprised that you weren't happy with the improvement you saw
12:59 < cfields> note that i primed the cache at startup, though, so it was always warm
13:00 < cfields> (the cost of priming the cache turned out to be negligible compared to the gain of actually having it primed)
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