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01:22 < gmaxwell> sipa: phantomcircuit: I want to give you some congrats on the a privacy improvement direct hit.
01:23 < gmaxwell> Note "compliance tracking" here https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/15 and the dishonest suggestion that restoring the trickle behavior helps '0 conf' at https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/16
01:25 < gmaxwell> kinda interesting to see 'Classic' also making privacy negative changes like XT.
01:34 < paveljanik> gmaxwell, why do you think they are going to merge this in?
01:35 < paveljanik> if gmaxwell pakes a PR to Classic uping the limit to 8MB  fix, will gmaxwell' say here that they are going to merge it?
01:35 < gmaxwell> read the thread.
01:35 < paveljanik> I read it ;-)
01:35 < paveljanik> I do not care at all about Classic, but you made me curious :-)
01:36 < paveljanik> but we age going OT here ;-)
01:36 < paveljanik> but anyway, I'm happy to see you "back" ;-)
01:42 < midnightmagic> it looks like he intends to commit it to me
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01:53 < paveljanik> even if so, do we care?
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02:37 < petertodd> https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/19 <- lol, 3GB mempools
02:38 < haakonn> just multiple everything by 10
02:44 < paveljanik> looks like the next one will be maxconnections to 80...
02:45 < paveljanik> joined today. Some troll...
02:45 < paveljanik> 8)
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03:43 < gmaxwell> sorry, I didn't mean to push this channel OT in that way.
03:44 < gmaxwell> My bringing up that repo was exclusively to point out to patrick and sipa that fixing the trickling was a meaningful enough improvement in privacy that people attacking the privacy of Bitcoin Core users are trying to undermine it.
03:45 < gmaxwell> The particular venue was uninteresting except perhaps that it wasn't at core: showing that we have a reputation for competence and caring about privacy enough that they wouldn't bother trying it on us.
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04:20 < paveljanik> gmaxwell, sure. Everyone in this channel knows it...
04:21 < paveljanik> The question is how to make general public aware of this (without finger pointing).
04:22 < paveljanik> Writing articles to our web pages...
04:22 < paveljanik> e.g.
04:22 < paveljanik> blogging about it.
04:25 < paveljanik> and BTW, several days ago jonasschnelli closed plain 1M->2M PR as well... So "they" are trying to do it to Core too.
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04:26 < jonasschnelli> paveljanik: how is trying what (don't read the backlog)?
04:27 < jonasschnelli> Was the close of this PR to harsh? Looked really trollish.
04:28 < jonasschnelli> s/how is trying../who s trying...
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06:32 < paveljanik> jonasschnelli, I do not know who. It was just to illustrate that trolls troll this and other projects.
06:33 < paveljanik> and we can't judge the quality of the project purely on the PRs.
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06:45 < paveljanik> jonasschnelli, you did perfect job in closing it...
06:45 < paveljanik> the reporter was troll
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07:15 < michagogo> cfields: Yeah, as I thought, script caught this. Something really bizarre is happening when building Qt... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZiTK1ujG/1453043699.JPG
07:23 < michagogo> I'm going to try booting up my sandbox VM (that has a clean snapshot) and installing the packages to see if I can try to build outside a container
07:23 < zookolaptop> michagogo: filesystem or storage device failure ?
07:23 < zookolaptop> Sorry, gotta go play Dominions 4 with my 6-year-old. BBIAB
07:23 < michagogo> zookolaptop: nah, Windows and Linux builds are working fine
07:24 < michagogo> And the OS X build has failed in the same way at the same place 4-5 times now
07:24 < zookolaptop> Hm.
07:28 < michagogo> If you scroll back a while I uploaded the build.log
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08:18 < PRab> Some quick feedback on the 0.12 RC. I'm not a big fan of the font change on the Console tab. It appears to be using a smaller font than it did before and it is harder (IMO) to read.
08:18 < PRab> (Windows 7 64bit, standard DPI)
08:23 < PRab> Another minor cosmetic issue that could be improved is that by default the User Agent column gets cut off, and the Ping Time column is huge. I would give up some of the white space in Ping Time to avoid cutting off text in User Agent.
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09:15 < GitHub53> [bitcoin] pra85 opened pull request #7363: Update license year range to 2016 (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7363
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10:16 < adnn_> Ihttp://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160105-the-man-who-studies-the-spread-of-ignorance
10:16 < adnn_> Relevant for obvious reasons. 
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10:31 < GitHub184> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7364: [qt] Windows: Make rpcconsole monospace font larger (master...Mf1601-qtWinFontSize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7364
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10:37 < michagogo> Anyone around who gitian builds?
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10:37 < PRab> I do.
10:38 < michagogo> Did the 0.12.0rc1 OS X build work for you?
10:38 < michagogo> If so, what's your gitian setup?
10:38 < PRab> I never do OS X builds. I only do windows and linux.
10:38 < michagogo> Got it.
10:38 < michagogo> No sdk?
10:38 < MarcoFalke> michagogo, you need to patch the local descriptor
10:39 < michagogo> MarcoFalke: that's just the signer IIRC
10:39 < MarcoFalke> See the 0.12 branch
10:39 < michagogo> And I'm using the descriptor from the 0.12 branch anyway
10:39 < michagogo> The issue is that it's crashing and burning in a really bizarre way when trying to build Qt
10:40 < MarcoFalke> What OS and gitian builder?
10:40 < michagogo> (See scrollback)
10:40 < michagogo> I'm using LXC running on Ubuntu Trusty in a Virtualbox
10:40 < michagogo> (on Windows, but that shouldn't matter)
10:41 < michagogo> Linux and Windows built fine
10:41 < michagogo> And I think fanquake had the same failure
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10:43 < MarcoFalke> The docs mention debian, iirc. But Trusty should work as well...
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10:45 < michagogo> MarcoFalke: Ubuntu is gitian's first-class platform afaik
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11:07 < zookolaptop> michagogo: curious what happened with that weird truncated build log last night.
11:08 < MarcoFalke> michagogo. Do you have the build script as well?
11:08 < michagogo> zookolaptop: yeah, didn't know a truncated > file was even possible
11:08 < michagogo> MarcoFalke: sure, one sec
11:09 < michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14555571/
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11:11 < michagogo> Pretty sure there's nothing abnormal there
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11:11 < michagogo> And the build log looks pretty normal until the screenshot I posted
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12:21 < michagogo> hmm, what's this?
12:21 < michagogo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hAWpvStd/
12:29 < michagogo> cfields: I'm getting a 403 when depends as of v0.12.0rc1 tries to pull from the bitcoincore.org fallback server
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15:28 < randy-waterhouse> hammering v0.12rc1 on the mainnet, smooth like silk ... good work guys.
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18:43 < wangchun> what are ANCESTOR/DESCENDANT limits? My tx failed the test.
18:46 < sdaftuar> wangchun: starting in 0.12, there are limits on the length of unconfirmed transaction chains.  "ancestors" refers to all the unconfirmed transactions that a given transaction depends on
18:46 < sdaftuar> wangchun: "descendants" refer to the unconfirmed transactions that depend on a given one
18:47 < sdaftuar> these limits apply to mempool acceptance of new transactions
18:47 < sdaftuar> default is 25/25 if i remember correctly
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18:48 < wangchun> sdaftuar: my tx has only one ancestor, but it is refused
18:49 < wangchun> sdaftuar: which limit should I increase?
18:50 < sdaftuar> that can't be the ancestor/descendant limits unless you manually overrode the default
18:50 < sdaftuar> what's the exact error?
18:51 < wangchun> too-long-mempool-chain
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18:52 < sdaftuar> oh, it could be the size of the transaction i suppose
18:52 < sdaftuar> how big is it?
18:52 < wangchun> sdaftuar: I was trying to send another tx which only has one vin = b28fe214a938921dcbf39146b806ab954c77f81e0b58ac4e4d8c5e9f21a308fa:0 but it has about 5000 vouts
18:53 < wangchun> at the time I was trying to send, b28fe214a938921dcbf39146b806ab954c77f81e0b58ac4e4d8c5e9f21a308fa hasn't been confirmed
18:53 < sdaftuar> wangchun: ok, yes i forgot to mention that in addition to limits on the number of ancestors and descendants, there are also limits on the size of a transaction including ancestors and size of a transaction including descendants
18:54 < wangchun> I already raised standard tx size limit to 500kb
18:54 < wangchun> so should i increase these new limits too?
18:54 < sdaftuar> yes, you can try -limitancestorsize=500 and -limitdescendantsize=500
18:54 < sdaftuar> those values are interpreted as kb
18:54 < sdaftuar> and default to 101
18:55 < wangchun> the tx itself is counted in ancestor/descendant size?
18:55 < wangchun> ancestor or descendant?
18:55 < sdaftuar> i would bump both to be safe
18:56 < sdaftuar> i'm double-checking the calculation
18:57 < sdaftuar> both numbers include the transaction itself
18:58 < sdaftuar> so if it has one unconfirmed parent, make sure that you set -limitancestorsize to be large enough for both transactions
18:58 < wangchun> sdaftuar: ok
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19:29 < GitHub3> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #7367: Mention mempool chain limits in release notes (0.12...update-release-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7367
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20:22 < GitHub55> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #7368: [Tests] Eliminate race condition in mempool_packages.py (master...fix-package-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7368
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21:15 < phantomcircuit> wangchun, why are you trying to send 5000 vouts? that seems like a lot
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22:10 < phantomcircuit> morcos, did you work on improving the utxo caching setup to avoid clearing it on flush?
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23:24 < michagogo> .whois cfields cfields 
23:24 < michagogo> er
23:24 < michagogo> sorry
23:39 < wangchun> phantomcircuit: daily payout
23:40 < phantomcircuit> wangchun, you dont have a minimum payout amount of > $1 ?
23:52 < wangchun> phantomcircuit: our threshold is 0.001 BTC
23:52 < wangchun> that about ¥2.51
23:53 < wangchun> s/that/that's/