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00:19 < wumpus> Luke-Jr: don't know, I'm not sure why it got unliked from petertodd's repo
00:19 < wumpus> unlinked*
00:19 < wumpus> instagibbs: have you tried assigning a lower number of cores? (-par=)?
00:20 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: most likely due to my inquiry last month, but they only accept an admin request to re-attach it :/
00:23 < wumpus> you asked them to detach it?
00:26 < Luke-Jr> no, I inquired about #<n> references hitting upstream repos; I *thought* they said it should just work without changes..
00:26 < Luke-Jr> but that was approximately the same time as the detaching occurred
00:27 < wumpus> so they likely made a mistake. Ok, I'll send a mail
00:30 < Luke-Jr> best I can tell, yes. but as a non-admin they don't seem to want to be clear on it in their replies to me.
00:34 < wumpus> https://github.com/petertodd/bips  is now seen as a fork of bitcoin/bips
00:34 < wumpus> so apparently it is still the same network, but they changed the parent
00:35 < Luke-Jr> it's genjix/bips (and its forks) that's cut-off
00:35 < Luke-Jr> petertodd/bips was originally a fork of genjix/bips (the origin)
00:35 < wumpus> hmm
00:36 < Luke-Jr> my repo is also a fork of genjix/bips, so with the current situation I cannot open PRs
00:36 < wumpus> yes, I get it, they cut off a part of the tree and made bitcoin/bips the parent of that
00:36 < wumpus> so if I ask them to attach it to genjix/bips it should be ok again?
00:37 < Luke-Jr> If petertodd/bips is parented to bitcoin/bips now, I think attaching bitcoin/bips to genjix/bips will work
00:37 < Luke-Jr> putting it back to how it was before might need petertodd to be making the request
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00:39 < wumpus> but that might mean that #<n> references again hit upstream repos
00:39 < Luke-Jr> was this ever an actual problem for bips?
00:40 < wumpus> I don't know. You reported it to them?
00:40 < Luke-Jr> it came up as a supposed problem on IRC, but I never confirmed it
00:40 < Luke-Jr> the response I got was that as long as the # existed in the repo it was being mentioned on, it shouldn't go across repos
00:42 < wumpus> ok... well I sent a request to reconnect it, we'll see what they come back with
00:42 < Luke-Jr> thanks
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01:07 < petertodd> Luke-Jr: you can probably reconnect your repo to bitcoin/bips instead
01:07 < Luke-Jr> petertodd: that won't help everyone else branched off genjix
01:07 < petertodd> Luke-Jr: how many people are branched off genjix? can't be all that many
01:07 < wumpus> good point
01:08 < Luke-Jr> https://github.com/genjix/bips says 6 now. (it said a lot more a week ago..)
01:08 < wumpus> in a way having bitcoin/bips at the root is advantageous
01:08 < petertodd> wumpus: agreed, much more clear
01:08 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: ok, so email them nevermind and I'll just recreate mine or something
01:08 < petertodd> wumpus: I kept on getting pull-reqs meant for bitcoin/bips myself
01:08 < Luke-Jr> 5 others is no big deal
01:08 < petertodd> Luke-Jr: yeah, recreating works
01:11 < wumpus> ok, cancelled
01:11 < wumpus> hopefully rc3 can be -final this week
01:11 < petertodd> +1
01:12 < Luke-Jr> hopefully my release notes PR can be merged first <.<
01:16 < wumpus> I'm not really happy about this state of affairs re: priority in mining policy. It's clearly something that reasonable people can disagree on
01:20 < wumpus> I'd prefer to just keep it as a setting, but I understand it complicates the mempool code. On the other hand, removing some policy just because it streamlines the code is not really a good argument in itself.
01:23 < petertodd> wumpus: though if the policy is rarely used...
01:32 < wumpus> but who knows? luke-jr is against the change, and its very possible that he's not the only one
01:32 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: the mempool code can ignore priority without removing it from mining
01:34 < wumpus> right
01:34 < Luke-Jr> the result of this is that gratis transactions fail under high load/spam conditions, but priority transactions that pay a sufficient relay fee still get mined
01:35 < Luke-Jr> (speaking of gratis transactions, I was under the impression we were removing support for them from the wallet in 0.12, but it apparently still supports them? or is that a bug/oversight?)
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01:38 < wumpus> that may be a bug/oversight yes...
01:38 < petertodd> do we have stats yet on how often we're under gratis-relaying conditions anyway? I run my nodes with 50MB mempool limits, and they're non-gratis basically 100% of the time
01:39 < Luke-Jr> petertodd: how could we? most nodes are pre-0.12, which has no such limits
01:40 < petertodd> Luke-Jr: sure, but I mean has anyone with a v0.12 node with default settings been keeping track of this?
01:42 < Luke-Jr> I would imagine until the block size nonsense is over, we wouldn't likely see gratis conditions
01:43 < petertodd> as in, you think we're seeing spam attacks to push the average usage up?
01:43 < Luke-Jr> gotta make Bitcoin look backlogged, after all <.<
01:43 < Luke-Jr> petertodd: clearly
01:43 < Luke-Jr> petertodd: actual volume is like 400k/block avg, and yet the block sizes are way higher :/
01:44 < petertodd> could definitely be true, especially with how actual day-to-day usage isn't impacted at all - tx fees are still really low
01:45 < Luke-Jr> this is why I think Classic has more like 10% economic support instead of 5% :p
01:45 < GitHub16> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7ea5db0c190...326f010332a6
01:45 < GitHub16> bitcoin/master fa616c2 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md
01:45 < GitHub16> bitcoin/master 326f010 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md...
01:45 < GitHub59> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md (master...Mf1601-releaseProc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7465
01:46 < petertodd> Luke-Jr: speaking of, I'd like to get some clarify from the classic types on when they'd do another blocksize increase - what's the criteria exactly?
01:46 < petertodd> in particular, how much money do I have to spend on fees to force the issue prematurely...
01:46 < Luke-Jr> heh
01:47 < petertodd> it's also notable how jgarzik has been promoting non-bitcoin fintech uses of the blockchain for bitfury - demand for those is potentially basically infinite
01:47 < GitHub25> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/b9ed8c996912aed9031caf0e3e6e32530ae6187a
01:47 < GitHub25> bitcoin/0.12 b9ed8c9 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md...
01:48 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: any interest in moving icon rendering to `make distdir` stage? I have working code :p  cons: requires rsvg & imagemagick to build from git
01:49 < wumpus> rather not require any graphical tools for building/deploying bitcoin
01:49 < wumpus> just make it a developer script that people can run when they actually touch the icons
01:50 < Luke-Jr> (building from tarball unaffected)
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01:51 < wumpus> icon updates are rare enough to warrant running a special script when they happen
01:52 < wumpus> this also allows QA on the produced images, e.g. what if someone has a crappy version of svg, it'd basically include rsvg and imagemagick into the deterministic base
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01:54 < Luke-Jr> I suppose. Unfortunately, it's also rare enough that it's probably not worth doing for that purpose alone. The value to me is for a different Knots icon without a binary patch file.
01:55 < wumpus> to be even more heretical: can't qt render svg images directly?
01:56 < wumpus> (probably means an even worse situation of having rsvg, which is notoriously leaky and buggy, as a dependency of bitcoin-qt, but OK)
01:56 < Luke-Jr> Qt's SVG rendering can't handle the shadows
01:57 < Luke-Jr> and requires a plugin
01:58 < wumpus> right
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13:03 < GitHub193> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #7482: [P2P] Ensure headers count is correct (master...fix-download-timeouts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7482
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13:37 < GitHub118> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
13:37 < GitHub57> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
13:40 < GitHub88> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
13:40 < GitHub97> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
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13:57 < GitHub100> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7485: Use system univalue by default (master...sys_univalue_def) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7485
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14:24 < GitHub59> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
14:35 < Luke-Jr> cfields: Fetching qrencode… ERROR: no certificate subject alternative name matches requested host name `fukuchi.org'.
14:35 < Luke-Jr> on Travis..
14:36 < wumpus> that happens on 0.10 too; for some reason it doesn't even try the fallback after that
14:41  * Luke-Jr ponders if updating ca-certificates is sufficient
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15:26 < fkhan> Luke-Jr using --no-check-certificate or building wget from source (1.17) can alleviate that
15:26 < Luke-Jr> I'm not sure why we're using https at all, considering we check the file hash
15:26 < fkhan> the dbus http mirror has a 301 to the wrong url, also
15:27 < fkhan> well, i thought the freedesktop ssl error was related to the fukuchi.org one, but totally separate (and was thinkign the same when i saw that last week :))
15:29 < fkhan> so, in dbus' case, it actually works better when using https
15:29 < fkhan> (until they change the redirect that is)
15:31 < fkhan> whoops, nvm, its fine now
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15:42 < midnightmagic> Luke-Jr: protocol munging by malicious upstream ISP maybe?
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19:55 < Luke-Jr> wumpus: it seems using curl for the fetch (stealing it from the darwin platform support) fixes this. shall I PR that?
19:56 < Luke-Jr> or is there some reason to prefer wget?
19:58 < Luke-Jr> cfields: ^
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20:05 < GitHub127> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7487: depends: Use curl for fetching on Linux (master...depends_curl) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7487
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23:52 < GitHub42> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/326f010332a6...3db828f95165
23:52 < GitHub42> bitcoin/master 7c06fbd Wladimir J. van der Laan: rpc: Add WWW-Authenticate header to 401 response...
23:52 < GitHub42> bitcoin/master 3db828f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7472: rpc: Add WWW-Authenticate header to 401 response...
23:52 < GitHub174> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7472: rpc: Add WWW-Authenticate header to 401 response (master...2016_02_www_authenticate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7472
23:54 < GitHub94> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3db828f95165...3ffe4b241ed4
23:54 < GitHub94> bitcoin/master 301bc7b Suhas Daftuar: Update nQueuedValidatedHeaders after peer disconnection
23:54 < GitHub94> bitcoin/master 3ffe4b2 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7482: [P2P] Ensure headers count is correct...
23:54 < GitHub43> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7482: [P2P] Ensure headers count is correct (master...fix-download-timeouts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7482