--- Day changed Thu May 19 2016 00:03 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:10 -!- Evel-Knievel [~Evel-Knie@d5152f744.static.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:18 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:18 -!- Evel-Knievel [~Evel-Knie@d5152f744.static.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:36 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:42 -!- kadoban [~mud@unaffiliated/kadoban] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:51 -!- nosovhunt [~ewyokditn@fb.42.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:56 < GitHub14> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/18436d889653...7771aa57bdd6 00:56 < GitHub14> bitcoin/master f4119c6 EthanHeilman: Remove non-determinism which is breaking net_tests #8069 00:56 < GitHub14> bitcoin/master 2a8b358 Ethan Heilman: Fix typo adddrman to addrman as requested in #8070 00:56 < GitHub14> bitcoin/master 7771aa5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8070: Remove non-determinism which is breaking net_tests #8069... 00:56 < GitHub177> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8070: Remove non-determinism which is breaking net_tests #8069 (master...bug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8070 01:08 -!- nosovhunt [~ewyokditn@50.7c.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:42 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:09 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:09 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:13 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:18 < GitHub121> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8072: travis: 'make check' in parallel and verbose (master...Mf1605-travisMakeCheck) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8072 02:21 < MarcoFalke> is there an irc meeting today? 02:22 < warren> Are people traveling now for the Zurich thing? 02:24 < jonasschnelli> There is also a meetup in zurich during the time of the meeting. At least Pieter W. will be there. :) 02:28 < jonasschnelli> I think I'll attend the todays IRC meeting,... not sure if i'm the only one. 02:37 -!- hybridsole [~hybridsol@unaffiliated/hybridsole] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:13 -!- gevs [~greg@unaffiliated/gevs] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-62-235-153-240.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:25 -!- gevs [~greg@ip-62-235-153-240.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Changing host] 03:25 -!- gevs [~greg@unaffiliated/gevs] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:31 -!- G1lius [~stefangil@85.17.25.43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:45 -!- MarcoFalke [8af6020a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.138.246.2.10] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:52 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:56 -!- pmienk [~pmienk@c-71-227-177-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:56 -!- pmienk [~pmienk@c-71-227-177-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:56 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:58 -!- ghtdak [~ghtdak@unaffiliated/ghtdak] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:01 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:03 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31 -!- Amnez777 [~Amnez777@37.157.216.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:37 -!- Amnez777 [~Amnez777@37.157.216.141] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:41 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:43 -!- ChillazZ [~ChillazZ@194.97.152.20] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:57 < GitHub84> [bitcoin] rat4 opened pull request #8073: qt: askpassphrasedialog: Clear pass fields on accept (master...patch) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8073 05:04 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:04 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 05:11 -!- skang404 [1b6d0e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.27.109.14.34] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:57 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:59 < petertodd> warren: yeah, I'll on my way there during th emeeting 06:13 -!- pet_rock [~pet_rock@128.54.181.82] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:24 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 06:26 -!- TomMc [~tom@unaffiliated/tommc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:27 -!- hybridsole [~hybridsol@unaffiliated/hybridsole] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:43 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:05 -!- donal [57c6ce7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.198.206.122] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:09 -!- face [~face@mail.hmel.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:10 -!- face [~face@mail.hmel.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:23 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:24 < cjcj> Just an FYI: none of the GPG keys listed https://bitcoincore.org/en/list/announcements/join/ are reachable 07:31 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:37 < jonasschnelli> cjcj: thanks 07:37 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:38 < jonasschnelli> cjcj: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/issues/170 07:39 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@172-11-188-117.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:40 -!- bysherper [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:03 -!- bysherper [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:06 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:09 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:09 < luke-jr> maybe there should be a master PGP key that can sign senders 08:17 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:18 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 08:22 < gmaxwell> am I timezone confused or is the meeting not for several hours? (I'm in Zurich now) 08:22 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:23 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:23 < instagibbs> gmaxwell, not yet surely 08:26 < gmaxwell> should I not be in Zurich now? I could go back... 08:27 -!- kadoban [~mud@unaffiliated/kadoban] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:28 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: you're 3 hours 30 min early for the -core-dev meeting 08:28 * luke-jr ponders if he'll be able to make it. supposedly the plane has wifi 08:33 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:35 < sipa> gmaxwell: local time is 17:34; meeting is at 21:00 08:38 < sipa> gmaxwell: there is also a social bitcoin meetup in zurich in 1.5 hours 08:45 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:51 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:52 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:55 < gmaxwell> BlueMatt: new shorter short-ids are doing their thing: 08:55 < gmaxwell> 2016-05-19 14:31:35 received: cmpctblock (18005 bytes) peer=1 08:55 < gmaxwell> 2016-05-19 14:31:35 Successfully reconstructed block 000000000000000003c99851acf96fb791f790324d62ffad98e2c68de4783f32 with 1 txn prefilled, 2964 txn from mempool and 0 txn requested 08:55 -!- supasonic [~supasonic@2602:30a:c0bb:c750:665a:4ff:fe86:2bc9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:55 < sipa> \o/ 08:58 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:05 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:13 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:19 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:25 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:30 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:32 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:39 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:40 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:52 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:14 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:17 -!- bysherper [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:22 -!- zooko [~user@c-73-14-173-69.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:25 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:32 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:33 < instagibbs> that's some nice extra savings there :) 10:54 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:11 -!- bysherper [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:14 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:23 -!- zooko [~user@c-73-14-173-69.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: shesek, Michail1 11:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: go1111111, sdaftuar, PaulCapestany, devrandom 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: devrandom 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sdaftuar 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: go1111111 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Michail1 11:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-111-86.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: PaulCapestany 11:30 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:30 -!- ibrightly [sid113387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sxbomoatzldonzze] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:32 -!- mturquette [sid66043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cnstebsbyxcydcab] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:33 -!- bysherper [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:34 -!- ibrightly [sid113387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sndvdpydqzudigcr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:34 -!- mturquette [sid66043@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rtgvkbcossvbibjd] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:56 -!- loltastic [~loltastic@2600:380:8445:cc47:622b:a89f:8a96:de00] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:56 < BlueMatt> gmaxwell: nice! 11:59 -!- loltastic [~loltastic@2600:380:8445:cc47:622b:a89f:8a96:de00] has quit [Client Quit] 12:00 -!- loltastic [~loltastic@2600:380:8445:cc47:622b:a89f:8a96:de00] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:00 -!- loltastic [~loltastic@2600:380:8445:cc47:622b:a89f:8a96:de00] has quit [Client Quit] 12:02 < luke-jr> meeting? 12:02 < BlueMatt> probably travel day for most folks? 12:02 -!- earlest [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:02 < luke-jr> but I have layover :o 12:02 < BlueMatt> #meetingstart 12:02 < BlueMatt> #startmeeting 12:02 < lightningbot> Meeting started Thu May 19 19:02:22 2016 UTC. The chair is BlueMatt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:02 < lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:02 < BlueMatt> topics? 12:03 < luke-jr> VB GBT :P 12:04 < BlueMatt> who's writing the fixes for that? 12:04 < sipa> i am at the zurich bitcoin meetup 12:04 < luke-jr> me https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7935 12:04 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:05 -!- muuqwaul [~denetrabu@96.93.57.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:05 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: so it looks like its in the review queue? 12:06 < luke-jr> yeah 12:06 < luke-jr> but it's fairly important to get released before CSV activates 12:06 < sipa> csv won't activate soon 12:07 < BlueMatt> it might, but, indeed, there seems to be some meme about CSV not being useful without segwit :/ 12:07 < luke-jr> could be within a month, no? and we need time for rc testing etc 12:07 < luke-jr> hmm 12:07 < morcos> how important is it for us to get CSV activated soon? 12:08 < luke-jr> I don't know any urgent need for it tbh 12:08 < BlueMatt> dont think its /criticial/, but it would be very nice for a few folks 12:08 < sipa> the demand for csv is for supporting htlcz 12:09 < luke-jr> htlcz? 12:09 < morcos> but doesn't it seem like segwit is such a big additional improvement that its not worth trying to push for CSV adoption now and instead saving our energy for segwit adoption? 12:09 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: s/z/s/ 12:09 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:09 < luke-jr> ah 12:09 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:10 < BlueMatt> morcos: it would be very nice if it didnt activate at the same time, but while there are some use-cases, its true, I'm not aware of anyone clamoring for csv RIGHT NOW 12:10 < morcos> BlueMatt: just for the purposes of having a live VB activation before segwit? 12:11 < BlueMatt> it is kinda dissapointing that miners dont care enough to upgrade, since there were other bugfixes there, but whatever 12:11 < luke-jr> I got the (mistaken?) impression BlueMatt and gmaxwell were upset CSV was taking long, so I assumed it was getting pressure on 12:11 < morcos> that doesn't seem so critical to me, now that we've had so many testnet type activations 12:11 < BlueMatt> morcos: yea, that would be nice too 12:11 < morcos> i agree its disappointing, but i'm not sure its something thats worth worrying about or doing anything about. lets just roll out the next great thing 12:11 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: no, I think gmaxwell would very much like it to move forward faster, and I am dissapointed that its not, but as morcos points out, its not critical 12:12 < sipa> what could be do to improve adoption? 12:12 < luke-jr> sipa: 0.11 backport would get Eligius 12:12 < BlueMatt> sipa: not much, a few folks were bugging the 2 big miners left 12:13 < luke-jr> right now solo depends on VB GBT, and Eligius depends on either 0.11 backport or 0.12 CPFP testing/review 12:13 < sipa> luke-jr: i'll review the patches tomorrow 12:13 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: I'm working on the cpfp review 12:14 < BlueMatt> next topic? 12:15 < luke-jr> should we make specific plans for the weekend? 12:15 < luke-jr> or maybe jonasschnelli already has that planned 12:16 < BlueMatt> I think thats already mostly planned/most folks arent here/there is an email thread 12:16 < sipa> yes 12:16 < luke-jr> oh, has anyone looked at the OpenSSL exploits? 12:16 < jonasschnelli> I haven't planed a schedule on what to talk about or on what to work. I think this should be done together. 12:17 < jonasschnelli> Any I guess 20 people can't work on the same thing. We might need to form groups. 12:18 < sipa> if there are no further topics, i suggest closing the meeting soon 12:19 < luke-jr> OpenSSL exploits could be a topic. IIRC there was an uncertainty of the risk of the last batch 12:19 < BlueMatt> sounds good to me 12:19 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: yes, someone should look at that 12:19 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: you feel like digging into it? 12:20 < luke-jr> if we're going to release 0.12.2 with the VB GBT stuff, might as well bump OpenSSL with it? 12:20 < sipa> that sou ds reasonable 12:20 < luke-jr> BlueMatt: I don't feel competent in crypto, but I could dig a little I guess 12:20 < sipa> sounds 12:20 < BlueMatt> luke-jr: indeed, if we do another release (I think we'd need a quorum here to discuss that), then we should bump openssl 12:21 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-36-12.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:22 < luke-jr> guess nothing else to discuss? 12:24 < BlueMatt> #endmeeting 12:24 < lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu May 19 19:24:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 12:24 < lightningbot> Minutes: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2016/bitcoin-core-dev.2016-05-19-19.02.html 12:24 < lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2016/bitcoin-core-dev.2016-05-19-19.02.txt 12:24 < lightningbot> Log: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2016/bitcoin-core-dev.2016-05-19-19.02.log.html 12:24 < paveljanik> Enjoy the meeting! 12:25 < jonasschnelli> Thanks 12:25 < luke-jr> paveljanik: y u not coming? :P 12:25 < paveljanik> luke-jr, unfortunately not. But I will try to next time! 12:26 < luke-jr> next time we will have a very poor effective bus factor I guess :P 12:27 < luke-jr> going to grab some food while I wait for instagibbs, bbiab 12:28 * jonasschnelli can read luke-jr travel adventure excitement ... :) 12:31 < paveljanik> on the other hand, Zurich is only 620 km away from here... ;-) 12:32 < jonasschnelli> yes. 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What else port bitcoin-core needs, other than tcp 8333 as inbound ? and what ports i should allow in firewall as its outbound port, other than tcp 8333 ? 22:22 < sipa> it does not need that port to be open 22:23 < sipa> you can get others to connect to you if it is, but that is not required for normal operation 22:23 < sipa> no other ports are used 22:23 < tErik_mc> Oh, i should have mentioned, i'm running a full-node btc-core in my side, for that, inbound tcp port 8333 needs to be opened, right ? 22:23 < sipa> no 22:23 < sipa> it will work fine with no open ports 22:24 < tErik_mc> hmm. 22:24 -!- Irssi: Join to #bitcoin-core-dev was synced in 572 secs 22:25 < sipa> others will not be able to synchronize from you if you don't have port 8333 open 22:26 < sipa> but that doesn't benefit you 22:26 < tErik_mc> how would other full-nodes connect with my full-node, if inbound into 833 is not allowed ? by the way, i do not keep UPnP/SSDP enabled inside the OS, and not enabled in the router either. 22:26 < sipa> they won't 22:26 < sipa> i encourage you to open that port 22:26 < sipa> but it is not required or needed 22:27 < tErik_mc> oh, i see, i think i get what you are pointing at. SOME FUNCTION will still work without an inbound/open port 8333, but for FULL functionality, TCP port 8333 needs to be opened/forwarded. 22:28 < gmaxwell> it's fully functional without inbound connections. The only difference is if other hosts can connect into it, thats it. No functional difference. 22:28 < sipa> no, all functions will work without open portd 22:29 < sipa> you just won't be helping other nodes 22:29 * gmaxwell rolls eyes 22:29 < sipa> as much 22:29 < gmaxwell> you'll still even be helping other nodes, though not ones thsemselves without open ports. (because obviously if neighter side does, they cannot connect.) :) 22:31 < phantomcircuit> sipa, actually you only avoid doing initial block download sync merely on a statistical basis 22:32 < sipa> phantomcircuit: of course 22:32 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, "full-node" has nothing to do with networking 22:32 < sipa> but still, if nobody had their port open, the network would be dysfunctional 22:32 < phantomcircuit> it has to do with checking and validating that the blockchain is valid 22:33 < gmaxwell> Bob will have the port open. 22:33 * phantomcircuit is bob 22:34 < sipa> http://www.roorda.nl/core/media/bob_billboard.jpg 22:34 < tErik_mc> And as i want to HELP OTHERS, and ALSO BE HELPED FROM IT, so i would keep tcp 8333 opened. 22:34 < sipa> tErik_mc: yes 22:38 < tErik_mc> But i would want to limit the inbound to around 70 connections, max. 22:38 < gmaxwell> why would you change the defaults? 22:38 < tErik_mc> Currently i see, it has 8 inbound, and 14 outbound connections. 22:39 < gmaxwell> 14 total, I presume. 22:39 < tErik_mc> I dont want to change default, i assumed inbound changes by the app itself, so i was thinking to limit it under that, because i have other servers also running on same computer (ip-address). 22:41 < tErik_mc> I'm trying to setup it in a Windows-10 computer, its still downloading blkchain, its showing 20weeks-behind. 22:42 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43 < tErik_mc> I will do it on MacOSX & Linux after this windows computer. 22:45 < tErik_mc> i do not see existance of bitcoin.conf inside any of these folders ! C:\Program Files\Bitcoin\ or C:\Users\WINDOWS-USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin\ 22:46 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, if you have more than 8 connections then you have inbound connections 22:46 < tErik_mc> Will it be created after full blockchain is downloaded ? 22:46 < phantomcircuit> we don't make more than 8 outbound connections 22:47 < gmaxwell> tErik_mc: no, there is no need for a bitcoin.conf usually. it will never make it on its own. if you need one, you must create it. 22:47 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:48 < skang404> Is zeroMQ reliable? Can I rely on it to catch all tx belonging to my addresses immediately? 22:48 < tErik_mc> I looked again now, according to ComodoInternetSecurity, bitcoin-qt.exe has 8 TCP OUT connections, but other apps are shoing it has TOTAL 14 connections, etc. 22:48 < skang404> Or using walletnotify and fork handling is the only option for reliability? 22:50 < tErik_mc> i see, then i will create it on my own. i need to use the bitcoin-core, also to accept bitcoin in my own wallet, so how would i exactly create wallet ? i'm still confused after reading this: https://e.bitcoin.it/wiki/Running_Bitcoin 22:52 < tErik_mc> 8 TCP out, 4 LOCALLOOP, thats explain why its shown as using 12 connections. 22:53 < tErik_mc> oh, its listening to IPv6 8333, then that 1 more. 22:54 < tErik_mc> oh, its also listenning to IPv4 8333, then thats the last. so thats 14. 22:55 -!- skang404 [1b6d0e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.27.109.14.34] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:55 < tErik_mc> And in earlier, i said its using 8 inbound, i was wrong, its actually using 8 TCP out. 22:59 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:01 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01 -!- skang404 [1b6d0e22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.27.109.14.34] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:06 < tErik_mc> bitcoin-qt sometimes trying to connect with TCP 9051 !!! is that the Tor proxy controller port ? 23:07 < tErik_mc> This computer does not have any Tor stuff. 23:09 < tErik_mc> s / e.bitcoin.it / en.bitcoin.it / 23:13 < phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, just checked cgminer works fine as long as you specify an address to mine to 23:14 < phantomcircuit> skang404, zmq is not a reliable transport mechanism 23:14 < phantomcircuit> (no not even their tcp mode) 23:16 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, it's trying to setup a tor connection, if you dont have tor installed... it does nothing 23:18 < tErik_mc> Please point me to an article or help me with creating a wallet in this bitcoin-qt. 23:18 < MarcoFalke> it does on the first start 23:20 < tErik_mc> i see, i think thats why "Overview" screen showing: Balances 0.00000000 . Then how can i create 1 more wallet in it, and get rid of the 1st one 23:21 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, there's a wallet by default... 23:21 < tErik_mc> * 1 more new wallet 23:21 < phantomcircuit> huh? 23:21 < phantomcircuit> you mean a new address? 23:21 < phantomcircuit> also this is the wrong channel now 23:21 < phantomcircuit> #bitcoin 23:24 < tErik_mc> yes, new wallet address. but i need to explain why i'm asking for this. I found out, after installing few apps related to Openbazaar & Bitcoin, suddenly my C:\Users\ folder became a "Shared" folder, and previously it was not. Then i disabled bunch of wifi related services in this computer. i wasn't using wifi. its using wired connection now, when i setup openbazaar & bitcoin. but before these it was using wifi. 23:24 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:24 < tErik_mc> Anyway, so thats why i re-created new openbazar server password, re-created new SL certs etc. 23:25 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:25 < tErik_mc> So, i'm trying to make sure, that bitcoin default wallet is using fresh new priv.keys. 23:25 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:25 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, that kind of sounds like you installed malware 23:26 < tErik_mc> and whoever was able to copy some stufff, but now i'm taking enough steps, so that their copied stuff is useless. 23:27 < phantomcircuit> yeah so 23:27 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:27 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:27 < phantomcircuit> like i said 23:27 -!- gmaxwell [greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:27 < phantomcircuit> #bitcoin 23:27 < phantomcircuit> also 23:28 < tErik_mc> i have the exact list of apps, in download folder, which i installed in this computer, it has to be one of them. 23:28 < phantomcircuit> you should re install your operating system 23:28 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@f2.fd.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:28 -!- amiller_ [~socrates1@li175-104.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:28 -!- gmaxwell [greg@mf4-xiph.osuosl.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:29 -!- gmaxwell [greg@mf4-xiph.osuosl.org] has quit [Changing host] 23:29 -!- gmaxwell [greg@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:29 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:31 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:32 < tErik_mc> if i shutdown bitcoin-qt, and delete the existing wallet.dat file, and restart bitcoing-qt, then would it create a completely new wallet (with fresh new private keys & pubkeys) ? 23:32 < sipa> yes 23:32 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:32 < gmaxwell> Yes. 23:33 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@8a.f9.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:33 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@8a.f9.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:33 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@8a.f9.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:33 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@8a.f9.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:33 < tErik_mc> Just wallet.dat is enough, or do i need to delete few more files as well, to have a totally fresh wallet ? 23:33 -!- MarcoFalke [3e0caa9c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.12.170.156] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:33 < sipa> nope, only wallet.dat 23:33 -!- finmi [~ewyokditn@8a.f9.5177.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:34 < tErik_mc> THANKS, sipa, gmaxwell, other devs & contributors here. 23:34 -!- Guest4628 [~socrates1@li175-104.members.linode.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:35 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:37 < phantomcircuit> tErik_mc, dude i just told you, it sounds like you installed malware 23:37 < phantomcircuit> you need to reinstall your operating system also 23:38 -!- murr4y [murray@54.77.13.229] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:45 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.134] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:48 < tErik_mc> And i know the list of APPD which installed this/such malware . i installed Python27, OpenBazaar, Bitcoin, NetBalancer, etc. 23:49 < tErik_mc> I will scan the hard drive, from another fresh computer. 23:50 < tErik_mc> Nothing was installed, that wasn't directly recommended by those projects. 23:54 < tErik_mc> Or, Windows-OS somehow enabled the "Shared" mode for C:\Users\ for some reason, even though this computer did not had any wifi adapters, the built-in wifi adpater was kept in disabled state. Now all trace of wifi stuff are gone (completely disabled, from hardware level). 23:58 < tErik_mc> Quick Scan (with Comodo Internet Security) was already done twice by now, nothing fishy so far. By the way, i did not allow Comodo to use Cloud scanning inside the bitcoin folders, if for some reason it uploads wallet.dat or something into cloud. i kknow, it uploads file-hashes into cloud for analysis, and on positive detection it also uploads the file into their cloud.