--- Day changed Tue May 31 2016 00:27 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-25-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:28 -!- slackircbridge [~slackircb@45.55.41.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01 -!- spudowiar is now known as quizmaster 01:01 -!- quizmaster is now known as spudowiar 01:10 -!- tucenaber [~tucenaber@unaffiliated/tucenaber] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:21 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:22 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27 < sipa> gmaxwell: i think the advice to remove never-failing tests specifically is not wanted for consensus logic 01:28 < sipa> gmaxwell: though i guess that's a case of code whose behaviour is "fully specified" 01:50 -!- donal [57c6ce7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.198.206.122] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:00 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-25-137.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:36 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:46 -!- xiangfu [~xiangfu@58.135.95.136] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.134] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 03:08 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 03:23 < kanzure> "delete tests" is advice that probably works on teams where people are encouraged to write lots of useless tests. i could imagine the weeds growing pretty fast :). 03:39 < sipa> well we do suffer from tests that just test exact implementation equivalence rather than correctness 03:39 < sipa> like any change to the coin selection code will likely break the uniy tests 03:39 < sipa> which discourages improving them 03:40 < sipa> rather than helping making sure that changes don't break them 03:48 < kanzure> yes i am not sure how to correctly "test" stochastic approximation. "is it really approximating?" "is it really stochastic?" hehe 03:48 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:50 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:50 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:30 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@87.254.202.200] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:30 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@87.254.202.200] has quit [Changing host] 04:30 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:31 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Client Quit] 04:31 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:31 -!- cryptapus_ [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Client Quit] 04:31 -!- cryptapus__ [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:43 -!- cryptapus__ is now known as cryptapus 04:49 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:30 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:37 < wumpus> I wouldn't agree with deleting tests 05:38 < wumpus> I'd still like to add more unit tests and more coverage instead of going on some wacky tangent 05:39 -!- slackircbridge [~slackircb@45.55.41.36] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:41 < wumpus> I don't think we have the mentioned problem at all, that we're trusting unit tests too much 05:41 < wumpus> code review is most important 05:43 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:43 < wumpus> but removing tests sound like removing safety features from a car because it makes people more careful, yea, nice in theory, in practice it is harmful to have more crippled people even if they 'learned a lesson' 05:44 < sipa> i agree, but that post does contain some interesting view point 05:44 < wumpus> similarly, having trivial things fail more often in production is not even if it makes developers (who?) learn a lesson 05:44 < wumpus> I really don't like it 05:44 < btcdrak> I think it's ridiculous. Unit tests are invaluable, they catch regressions, make refactoring easier to do etc. 05:44 < wumpus> yes it's pretty ridiculous imo 05:45 < btcdrak> if this is where "professional" software development is going, god save us. 05:46 < sipa> well if people are refactoring their software so that higher line coverage is obtained, with tests that will never fail... there is a problem 05:46 < wumpus> I doubt it is. And yes some companies overdo testing, having test suites that run for 20 hours every time a change is made. For those I guess it makes sense to be more selective. 05:46 < sipa> i don't think we have that problem 05:46 < sipa> rather the opposite 05:47 < sipa> however, i do think we have a number of tests that are focussed on testing exact behaviour, of which nobody still knows why that test was added 05:47 < wumpus> yes, there are plenty of specific tests that could be improved 05:47 < wumpus> no argument there 05:47 < btcdrak> and properly commented. 05:47 < sipa> so they break when code is changed, with nobody knowing whether the broken test was testing some required property of the system, or just testing the exact behaviour the old code had 05:48 < wumpus> testing is absolutely a skill in itself and it doesn't overlap 100% with developing, but saying things like 'business people should make tests not developers'... yeah right 05:48 < sipa> well i guess we're kinda doing that for wallet rpc tests 05:49 < sipa> not that they're written by business people, but they do test application behaviour, not individual functioms 05:49 < wumpus> both levels make sense to test 05:49 < sipa> of course 05:50 < wumpus> but yes for the wallet we primarily test application-level behavior also because most functions aren't really testable units 05:50 < sipa> i don't think anyone is actually suggesting removing tests (?), but i think a mindset of testing for correctness rather than exact replication makes sense 05:50 < wumpus> lots of behavior that depends on the state of the wallet, which depends on an entire history of actions, there's not really much unit testing that can be done in that case 05:50 < sipa> or at least separating the two 05:54 < wumpus> indeed 05:58 < phantomcircuit> wumpus, the question is ultimately "what is a unit?" 05:58 < wumpus> phantomcircuit: it is, tho let's not get philosophical :) 05:59 < sipa> phantomcircuit: i think we should use Planck units 06:00 < wumpus> +1 06:00 < phantomcircuit> sipa, :P 06:00 < phantomcircuit> it's in the name 06:00 < phantomcircuit> unit tests 06:01 < wumpus> though not all Planck units describe the minimum physical quantities, e.g. plack mass is pretty large (in the micrograms) 06:02 < wumpus> I guess that describes some of our unit tests that are actually RPC tests in disguise... 06:03 < sipa> hah 06:05 < sipa> planck pressure: 4.63 * 10^113 Pa 06:06 < wumpus> wow 06:09 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:10 < GitHub165> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/950be19727a5...0026e0ef3472 06:10 < GitHub165> bitcoin/master 63ff57d Gregory Maxwell: Avoid integer division in the benchmark inner-most loop.... 06:10 < GitHub165> bitcoin/master 0026e0e Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8115: Avoid integer division in the benchmark inner-most loop.... 06:10 < GitHub39> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8115: Avoid integer division in the benchmark inner-most loop. (master...better_bench) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8115 06:17 < GitHub24> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8097: RFC: rpc: Remove dns argument for getaddednodeinfo (master...remove-getaddednodeinfo-dns) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8097 06:19 < GitHub183> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0026e0ef3472...e7e25ea5128b 06:19 < GitHub183> bitcoin/master 1a8c4d5 fanquake: [Doc] Add benchmarking notes 06:19 < GitHub183> bitcoin/master e7e25ea Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8110: [Doc] Add benchmarking notes... 06:19 < GitHub35> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8112: Include signal.h for sig_atomic_t in WIN32 (master...winsigatomic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8112 06:19 < GitHub145> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8110: [Doc] Add benchmarking notes (master...mention_bench) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8110 06:23 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-25-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:27 < GitHub198> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7e25ea5128b...a2df11524938 06:27 < GitHub198> bitcoin/master b682960 Chris Stewart: Adding P2SH(p2pkh) script test case... 06:27 < GitHub198> bitcoin/master a2df115 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8090: Adding P2SH(p2pkh) script test case... 06:27 < GitHub128> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8090: Adding P2SH(p2pkh) script test case (master...add_p2sh_p2pkh_script_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8090 06:29 < wumpus> jonasschnelli: I do think we use 'make deploy' in gitian builds for MacOSX 06:29 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:29 < wumpus> I know this because I broke it at some point and gitian broke too :) 06:29 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: hmm.. okay. Maybe it uses a different script when crosscompiling over linux. 06:30 * jonasschnelli needs to look closer at this issue 06:31 < wumpus> so, as gitian OSX is not broken (AFAIK) it's possibly something with fanquake's local setup 06:32 < wumpus> not sure where background.tiff is supposed to be though 06:32 < wumpus> could this be an out-of-tree build issue? 06:33 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:38 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:39 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: Some weeks ago I have also encountered that a local "make deploy" on MAC does no longer work. 06:39 < jonasschnelli> IMO its because the make deploy calls the macdeployplus script locally (on Mac only). 06:40 < jonasschnelli> And I guess when you are cross compiling on a linux host, it does something different 06:40 < jonasschnelli> the background.tiff is a relict. It should have be gone after lukejs auto-renaming PR 06:41 < sipa> maybe he needs a git clean? 06:43 < wumpus> trying that would make sense 06:45 < GitHub98> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7867: deleted restored sampler Configure.ac restored bits to all networks =(%master%masterCode[{rLi}]) (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7867 06:47 < GitHub172> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a2df11524938...862fd24b40b4 06:47 < GitHub172> bitcoin/master 7e908c7 Gregory Maxwell: Do not use mempool for GETDATA for tx accepted after the last mempool req.... 06:47 < GitHub172> bitcoin/master 862fd24 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8080: Do not use mempool for GETDATA for tx accepted after the last mempool req.... 06:48 < GitHub70> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8080: Do not use mempool for GETDATA for tx accepted after the last mempool req. (master...nonmempool_getdata) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8080 06:51 < GitHub158> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8025: Increase DEFAULT_KEYPOOL_SIZE to 10000. (master...2016-05-08-wallet-defaults) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8025 06:53 < GitHub85> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c3aedca2df89...e7ec24e336dc 06:53 < GitHub85> bitcoin/0.12 87129b2 Wladimir J. van der Laan: test: script_error checking in script_invalid tests... 06:53 < GitHub85> bitcoin/0.12 e3a9ce9 Pieter Wuille: Refactor script tests... 06:53 < GitHub85> bitcoin/0.12 e7ec24e Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8001: [0.12.2] backport script_tests improvements... 06:53 < GitHub172> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8001: [0.12.2] backport script_tests improvements (0.12...Mf1605-012testbp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8001 06:53 < GitHub160> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7854: [0.12 backport] script_tests improvements from master and #7818 (0.12...refactorscriptests_12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7854 06:53 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:56 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:58 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@66.119.84.15] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:58 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@66.119.84.15] has quit [Changing host] 06:58 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:08 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-25-137.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:24 -!- kadoban [~mud@unaffiliated/kadoban] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:33 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:48 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@174-25-25-137.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:59 < luke-jr> sipa: what are we doing on https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/365/files#diff-c0db26883ccab057aaa394db5e50e4b1R123 ? 08:02 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:02 -!- bsm1175321 is now known as bsm117532 08:11 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:34 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:40 -!- hexis [~hexis@208.87.122.37] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:45 -!- cryptapus [~cyptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:10 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-36-12.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:21 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:36 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:45 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:54 -!- OxADADA [~OxADADA@alumni-linux.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:19 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:33 -!- iniana [2e3b026a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.59.2.106] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:41 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:47 < iniana> Is there something I can do, configuration-wise, to speed up initial synchronization? Right now it is painfully slow, and I cannot find the reason why. Around 1 or 2 blocks per second is processed and download peaks are at 15KB/s 10:49 < gmaxwell> iniana: depends on what is bottlenecking you. If disk IO is, then increasing dbcache will help a lot. 10:50 < iniana> gmaxwell: Will try that. Thanks. 10:50 < gmaxwell> to do that set -dbcache= don't set it more than the amount of free ram you have, minus about 600mb or so. 10:50 < gmaxwell> iniana: What sort of hardware are you on? 10:53 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:54 < iniana> gmaxwell: Pretty standard hardware. Core i7 (2yo), 16GB RAM. Blockchain stored on a slow HDD though, so I hope the dbcache will work 10:55 < sipa> in that case, dbcache will help a lot 10:55 < sipa> set it to 3000 or more 10:55 < gmaxwell> yes, that will make it much faster. with 16GB ram you should be able to set it to 6000 or so and then the whole sync will basically happen in-memory, with just saving out chain to disk. 10:57 * sipa belies this C++ type could use some typedefs: 10:57 < sipa> std::deque>::iterator>> 10:57 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:00 < iniana> started up again, trying with dbcache=4000, but synching stalls. log mentions reindexing every single block file. Is that necessary? Is there some way to turn it off? 11:00 < sipa> did you start with -reindex? 11:00 < paveljanik> sipa, it looks like Perl 8) 11:01 < iniana> sipa: no 11:01 < sipa> iniana: can you c/p some typical 3 line snippet from debug.log? 11:01 < iniana> sipa: I copied the entire .bitcoin from another node I had though, if that matters. 11:02 < sipa> a running one? 11:02 < iniana> sipa: no, although maybe it didn't have a normal termination? 11:02 < iniana> 2016-05-31 17:57:18 Reindexing block file blk00070.dat... 2016-05-31 17:57:21 Block Import: already had block 000000000000003d64d714747fbfb615e056f533386d162f0bf5e049a9b6e0b2 at height 247000 2016-05-31 17:57:22 Reindexing block file blk00071.dat... 2016-05-31 17:57:23 Block Import: already had block 000000000000004d945017c14b75a3a58a2aa6772cacbfcaf907b3bee6d7f344 at height 248000 11:02 < gmaxwell> sipa: Why does dequeue gain the ctransaction shared_ptr iterator? 11:03 < sipa> gmaxwell: because that's smaller and faster than the hash 11:03 < sipa> the old code was stupid 11:04 < sipa> it's not a shared_ptr iterator btw, but a mapRelay iterator 11:04 < gmaxwell> sipa: isn't the iterator invalidated any time the map is updated? 11:04 < sipa> gmaxwell: nope! 11:04 < sipa> only when that specific item is deleted 11:05 < gmaxwell> okay, I understand why then. 11:06 < sipa> http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/map/insert <- "No iterators or references are invalidated. " 11:06 < sipa> i'll document that change in the commit message 11:09 < sipa> gmaxwell: oops, no, can't do! 11:09 < sipa> it can cause double deletions, as the expiration entries are not unique 11:10 < gmaxwell> I guess it cares about mutations too? I was thinking about adding a nodeid set to maprelay later to only answer queries for peers we actually inved to. 11:11 < sipa> the value of map entries can be changed, no problems (without iterator invalidation) 11:11 < sipa> keys can't ever change 11:11 < sipa> i'll leave it be 11:12 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:13 < sipa> oh, no, it is unique 11:14 < gmaxwell> I was digging through trying to figure out how it wasn't unique... 11:14 < sipa> i'm confusing with askfor 11:15 < gmaxwell> I would like to remove the expiration entry and reinsert it if the old expiration was 'too soon'... but that doesn't change the situation for the map with the shared pointers. 11:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:33 < sipa> gmaxwell: since #8080, if pto->timeLastMempoolReq == 0, we don't need to check the mempool at all, right? 11:34 < gmaxwell> Right. 11:40 -!- 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just as slow. I am wondering if it has something to do with the fact that I am running it in a Qubes AppVM. Funny thing is I was synching another (pruned) node from scratch in a whonix (tor-only) VM, and it went unexpectedly fast. Though that VM had the blockchain stored on an SSD. 22:22 < gmaxwell> iniana: syncing from scratch with your dbcache increased? 22:22 < iniana> gmaxwell: yes, lowered it from 4k to 2k when I realized I only had 4G of memory assigned to the VM 22:23 < iniana> the tor VM had default dbcache 22:24 < gmaxwell> with a dbcache of 2000 its unlikely that your slowness is related to disk io... but perhaps the vm is just doing something awful. 22:25 < iniana> gmaxwell: yeah, will try the fedora-based VM instead of Debian and see if that makes a difference 22:49 -!- Yv7trNY [~IUTYVExrY@188.25.212.149] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:52 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pslndrogkrslcsnb] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:57 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18 -!- assder [82ebca3a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.235.202.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:31 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:31 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-251-52.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:33 -!- Inaltoasinistra [~jonathan@88-149-242-223.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:34 -!- Inaltoasinistra [~jonathan@88-149-162-119.v4.ngi.it] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:39 -!- jtimon [~quassel@4.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:53 -!- Inaltoas1nistra [~jonathan@88-149-250-125.v4.ngi.it] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:53 -!- Inaltoasinistra [~jonathan@88-149-162-119.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56 -!- calibre720 [~calibre72@182.57.96.14] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58 -!- Inaltoasinistra [~jonathan@88-149-160-115.v4.ngi.it] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:58 -!- Inaltoas1nistra [~jonathan@88-149-250-125.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:59 -!- pmienk [~pmienk@c-71-227-177-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev