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bitcoin use a specific numbering system? It seems that it doesn't follow one's complement or twos complement from what i can tell.. 10:17 < arubi> Chris_Stewart_5, are you looking at compact size..? 10:17 < Chris_Stewart_5> arubi: I'm just talking about numbering in genral, for instance "81" is -1 10:18 < Chris_Stewart_5> 0x81* 10:19 < arubi> ah, that's different. it's just signed int really.. that's the way I see it anyway 10:20 < Chris_Stewart_5> Maybe I am thinking about it too much - i was looking over the two popular signed number representations and neither seem to map to bitcoins numbers 10:20 < Chris_Stewart_5> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signed_number_representations 10:20 < arubi> I think it means.. [0x00,0x7f] is positive, [0x80,0xff] is negative 10:20 < arubi> with 0x80 being "negative zero" 10:21 < Chris_Stewart_5> ... or I am missing something obvious 10:23 < sipa_> Chris_Stewart_5: you're talking about how integers are encoded inside script 10:23 < sipa_> not "how bitcoin uses numbering system" 10:24 < Chris_Stewart_5> sipa_: Is this one of those things "Satoshi implemented it that way" or is there a purpose behind our encoding? 10:25 < sipa_> no, satoshi did it that way, and it does not matter 10:25 < arubi> I really can't think of a different way to represent a negative range of numbers.. 10:25 < sipa_> i'd have done it differently, but it hardly matters :) 10:26 < Chris_Stewart_5> Gotcha, I was refactoring a library I am writing and I came across this weird encoding again and I was trying to figure out what it exactly was for documentation purposes 10:26 < Chris_Stewart_5> Thanks arubi sipa_ 10:26 < arubi> oh don't thank me, I'm not even sure I'm right 10:27 < Chris_Stewart_5> arubi: You would probably want to use twos complement to remove the weird corner case of -0 since that is kind of ugly 10:27 < sipa_> yes, two's complement is most common 10:27 < arubi> I'd want to know if I got to 0x80 or 0x00 when I subtracted two numbers if I signed it.. 10:28 < sipa_> ? 10:28 < sipa_> the result of a subtraction will never be 0x80 10:29 < sipa_> because it's just a non-canonical encoding of 0 10:30 < sipa_> the canonical encoding of 0 is {} 10:30 < Chris_Stewart_5> Interesting math perspective from group theory (?) https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/667577/does-negative-zero-exists 10:31 < Chris_Stewart_5> getting a little off topic tho 10:31 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:31 < arubi> hm.. I see. thanks sipa_. I was thinking about (0x81 - 0x01), would that be 0x00 then? 10:31 < sipa_> no, it would be {} 10:31 < arubi> even better. cool 10:33 < sipa_> the arithmetic operators always first convert their inputs to integers (the mathematical concept, not their byte representation), then do the relevant operation, and then convert back to the shortest byte encoding for the resulting number 10:33 < sipa_> that means that there is no way to even observe the difference between {} {0x80} {0x00} ... 10:33 < sipa_> except by comparing them byte-wise to known constants 10:36 -!- raedah2 is now known as raedah 10:36 < arubi> oh I think I see. sipa_ , is that CScriptNum ? 10:37 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-122-14-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:38 < arubi> seems like that's the place to look. 10:55 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@67-5-211-132.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55 < sipa_> yes 11:05 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:07 -!- murch [~murch@p4FDB7B31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:46 -!- calibre720 [~calibre72@182.57.38.226] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:49 -!- gluytium [~g@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:03 -!- gluytium [~g@c-73-224-87-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-nightly-20160225-9b31a077 - http://znc.in] 12:11 -!- hello_ [75d81e61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.216.30.97] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:12 < hello_> Could someone tell me what 'mempool' is in bitcoin core? I guess it is some ds where the transactions are stored , correct?? 12:13 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@67-5-211-132.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:16 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@67-5-211-132.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:16 < sipa_> hello_: every node in the network maintains a set of unconfirmed transactions 12:16 < sipa_> hello_: miners use this to build new blocks 12:26 < hello_> sipa_: Hi recently there was some discussion about some remove() cancel() function on the mempool? Could you explain it in a line... 12:28 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@unaffiliated/dgenr8] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:31 -!- hello_ [75d81e61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.216.30.97] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:42 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:43 -!- Sosumi [~Leon@bl10-113-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:54 < GitHub47> [bitcoin] jmcorgan opened pull request #8148: Backport leveldb build integration to 0.12 (0.12...0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8148 12:57 -!- look [a6adb98f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.173.185.143] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:57 -!- look [a6adb98f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.173.185.143] has quit [Client Quit] 13:04 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:11 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 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