--- Day changed Tue Aug 23 2016 00:08 -!- aureianimus [~quassel@s55963df3.adsl.online.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:12 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:25 -!- rubensayshi [~ruben@82.201.93.169] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:38 -!- JackH_ [~Jack@2.102.201.0] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:41 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.210.88] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:51 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.210.88] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 00:53 -!- owowo [ovovo@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-aaakfsubnimeqxbc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.210.88] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:09 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19 -!- laurentmt1 [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:21 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.210.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:21 -!- laurentmt1 is now known as laurentmt 01:29 -!- murch [~murch@p4FE3A3CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:36 -!- owowo [ovovo@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-lxqhwukvppdicptr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:39 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ctmhaczoehbewzul] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:53 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:57 < timothy> hi, I'm changing the build procedure of official archlinux packages to use git tag directly instead of downloading the linux tar with the source code 02:58 < timothy> with the check of tag signature ofc 02:58 < timothy> any comments against that? 03:02 < sipa> arch builds from source on install? 03:03 < timothy> no, I build packages signed with my signature 03:03 < timothy> but user can choose to build the package by itself 03:07 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:14 < sipa> ok, and this applies only in case they choose to build from source? 03:17 < timothy> also when I build from source 03:17 < timothy> binary packages on archlinux are signed by my gpg key 03:18 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@159.red-83-47-122.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@159.red-83-47-122.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:24 < sipa> timothy: i don't think it matters much. git tags are only on sha1 hashes, though, which may not be considered sufficiently secure in the future 03:25 < timothy> builds are made by using git too 03:25 < timothy> so if someone inject malware in git repository gitian doesn't help 03:26 < sipa> fair enough 03:27 < sipa> though we would detect different binaries through gitian... unless everyone got a version with modified history 03:28 < sipa> so actually, i think that downloading the source tarball is stronger, if you verify multiple gitian signatures 03:28 < sipa> which is nontrivial, i guess 03:38 -!- MarcoFalke [~marco@host10-2.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:39 < MarcoFalke> It should be mentioned that a lot of people mistake the tarball on the GitHub as something that can be verified 03:39 < MarcoFalke> link: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.13.0 03:39 < btcdrak> there doesnt seem to be a way to turn those off :( 03:39 < MarcoFalke> But I am not aware of disabling those 03:39 < MarcoFalke> jup 03:39 < btcdrak> we should ask Github about it 03:40 < btcdrak> timothy: you should build from the gitian tarballs at least 03:40 < btcdrak> wumpus do you upload the tar sources too? 03:40 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:41 < MarcoFalke> We could upload wumpus' sig.asc to the github releases and link to the site where we place the gitian binaries 03:42 < timothy> MarcoFalke: I'm using git clone + git verify-tag ofc 03:42 < MarcoFalke> btcdrak: yes https://bitcoin.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.13.0/test.rc3/ 03:43 < btcdrak> wumpus: also remember to include the hashes in your release announcement going forward so that information can be widely distributed. 03:44 < timothy> yes, I'm still waiting for 0.13.0 tarballs :p 03:47 < btcdrak> Starting today the bitcoincore.org merges will be git signed. (I have been lazy in this respect). I ask the other maintainers to do so also. 03:56 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:57 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Client Quit] 03:57 < warren> btcdrak: easier to force it if you have the web server update only to signed commits? 03:57 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@87.254.202.184] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:57 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@87.254.202.184] has quit [Changing host] 03:57 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:57 < btcdrak> if/when we do our own hosting 03:58 < btcdrak> I'll turn off the merge button on the repository at least 04:01 < btcdrak> oh they dont have that feature. I must be misremembering 04:01 < warren> github is so convenient they make people forget the "distributed" part. 04:22 < GitHub129> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #8563: Add configure check for -latomic (master...autoconf-latomic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8563 04:30 -!- Ginnarr [~Ginnarr@unaffiliated/ginnarr] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:32 -!- JackH_ [~Jack@2.102.201.0] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:52 -!- Megaf [~quassel@unaffiliated/megaf] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:55 -!- jouke [~jouke@a83-163-42-163.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host] 04:55 -!- jouke [~jouke@unaffiliated/komkommer] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:08 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Client Quit] 05:12 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:12 -!- Arnavion [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:12 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:13 -!- AtashiCon [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:13 -!- Arnavion3 [arnavion@unaffiliated/arnavion] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:13 -!- Arnavion3 is now known as AtashiCon 05:22 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:27 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:43 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 05:51 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:09 -!- Megaf [~quassel@unaffiliated/megaf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11 -!- TomMc [~tom@unaffiliated/tommc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:11 -!- Megaf [~quassel@unaffiliated/megaf] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:12 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-118-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20 -!- ArthurNumbanumba [~ArthurNum@h247079.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:26 * jonasschnelli stabs berkleyDb 06:29 -!- harrymm [~wayne@37.58.59.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:31 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-118-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:40 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:41 < GitHub107> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #8564: [Wallet] remove unused code/conditions in ReadAtCursor (master...2016/08/bdb_abstraction_1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8564 06:44 -!- harrymm [~wayne@37.58.59.75] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:44 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47 -!- harrymm [~wayne@37.58.59.75] has quit [Client Quit] 06:48 -!- harrymm [~wayne@37.58.59.75] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:49 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:52 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@66.119.84.15] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:52 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@66.119.84.15] has quit [Changing host] 06:52 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:53 -!- aalex_ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:54 -!- Samdney [~Samdney@dyn-ant666999.hawo.ipv6.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:55 * btcdrak calls an ambulance 06:55 < kanzure> need something? 06:56 < sipa> ? 06:56 < wumpus> because of the heat wave? 06:56 < GitHub113> [bitcoin] roques opened pull request #8565: .gitignore TAGS and emacs lock files (master...gitignore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8565 06:57 < btcdrak> "14:26 — jonasschnelli stabs berkleyDb" 06:57 < kanzure> man, i was about to schedule an airdrop of paramedics to you 06:57 < wumpus> noooo don't add your personal gitignores into the project 06:57 < sipa> i just flew from london to frankfurt 06:57 < wumpus> why do people keep doing that 06:57 < sipa> i did not see any clouds 06:58 < sipa> for the entire flight 06:58 < sipa> crazy 06:58 < wumpus> crazy indeed 06:59 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-111-200.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:59 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:00 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:06 < waxwing> open the window? 07:06 < wumpus> during a flight? 07:07 < sipa> no clouds in london on itself is oretty remarkable already :) 07:07 < juscamarena> There's always the emergency escape "window" ;) 07:08 -!- kadoban [~mud@unaffiliated/kadoban] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:10 -!- harrymm [~wayne@37.58.59.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-109-19.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:15 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:18 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28 -!- harrymm [~wayne@46.165.228.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:29 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:30 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:32 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:38 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:43 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: gtg] 07:44 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:46 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:47 < sipa> there are a few changes that i don't think were considered for inclusion in the release notes... not sure they're important enough, or just forgotten: wallet encryption no longer relies on OpenSSL, debug symbol binaries are now separately downloadable, removal of no-fee send option in gui 07:54 < wumpus> well the last one clearly affect users, and may have been useful to include 07:55 < wumpus> the debug symbols are not downloadable, they're just generated by gitian 07:55 < sipa> oh, ok 07:55 < wumpus> that they are generated deterministically is useful for doing eg. addrtoline on stack traces in bug reports 07:55 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ctmhaczoehbewzul] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:56 < wumpus> no longer using OpenSSL may make some people happy I suppose :) 07:56 < wumpus> (only for random number generation now...) 07:57 < sipa> and payment protocol 07:58 < MarcoFalke> Well, let's hope that people no longer use the GUI to send no-fee txes 07:58 < MarcoFalke> So no one will notice, if above statement holds 07:59 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:59 < instagibbs> supporting "no fee" from GUI just gives plenty of work helping people get stuff unstuck 08:00 < wumpus> wasn't the no-fee option moved to coin control? 08:00 < wumpus> or really removed 08:00 < wumpus> I don't remember 08:00 -!- harrymm [~wayne@46.165.228.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:00 < wumpus> payment protocol *needs* TLS, we're not going to do without OpenSSL there 08:00 < wumpus> well it would be possible to use PolarSSL 08:01 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:01 < wumpus> AFAIK qt can use that as drop-in replacement 08:02 < wumpus> not that I'm sure why it would be better 08:03 -!- cryptapus_ [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:05 -!- cryptapus [~cryptapus@unaffiliated/cryptapus] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:06 < wumpus> and libressl 08:19 -!- harrymm [~wayne@178.162.203.187] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:24 < instagibbs> \o/ congrats 08:26 -!- harrymm [~wayne@178.162.203.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:28 < sipa> w00t 08:32 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: What about adding a link to https://bitcoin.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.13.0/ on the tag ( https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/new?tag=v0.13.0 ) 08:32 < wumpus> sounds good to me 08:33 < MarcoFalke> This helps to make clear that the zip and tarballs are "not official" but provided by GitHub 08:33 < wumpus> right 08:33 < wumpus> and would point people to actual executables 08:33 < wumpus> is it possible to add text there? I've never been in that interface I think 08:41 < MarcoFalke> Jup, you can add anything 08:41 < MarcoFalke> Even the binaries 08:42 < MarcoFalke> But I would advise against adding anything but text 08:42 < MarcoFalke> "Anyone" can change it anytime. 08:42 < wumpus> yes I wouldn't want to add the binaries there, that's just confusing, especially as the source tarballs don't match our gitian-generated oens 08:42 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:45 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:46 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:47 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:47 < GitHub48> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/9358893518a19f38eab9186c768ad81c7a2f9cec 08:47 < GitHub48> bitcoin/master 9358893 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for 0.12.1 0.13.0 08:47 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has quit [Client Quit] 08:48 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:50 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has quit [Client Quit] 08:50 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.138.210] has quit [Client Quit] 08:56 -!- cryptapus_ is now known as cryptapus 09:01 -!- ryan`c is now known as ryan-c 09:02 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:03 -!- ryan-c is now known as ryan`c 09:04 -!- ryan`c is now known as ryan-c 09:06 < wumpus> woohoo \o/ congrats everyone 09:06 < wumpus> on to 0.13.1 09:07 < wumpus> bleh, having trouble with updating bitcoin.org https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1348 09:08 < timothy> should I enable zeromq? 09:11 < wumpus> are you planning to use it? 09:14 < btcdrak> wumpus: check your email please 09:19 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:26 -!- otium [~otium@2a01:e35:2eeb:c00:74cf:94b4:f34c:f0fc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:27 -!- zooko [~user@2601:281:8800:5d00:b096:cbc5:90f:4302] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:29 < otium> To all the Core-dev 09:29 < otium> thank you for the great work and for our Bitcoin that you are nursing for all of us 09:29 < otium> I believe we are numerous QUIET watchers who are supporting all of you 09:29 < otium> Thanks ! 09:29 -!- otium [~otium@2a01:e35:2eeb:c00:74cf:94b4:f34c:f0fc] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 09:30 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmanwvqaqhapkhtu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:35 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:37 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:39 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:43 -!- jannes [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:44 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:45 -!- eenoch [~eenoch@unaffiliated/eenoch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:45 -!- eenoch [~eenoch@unaffiliated/eenoch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:46 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:46 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:47 -!- zooko [~user@2601:281:8800:5d00:b096:cbc5:90f:4302] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:48 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:49 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:53 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:54 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 09:55 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.188.162] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:04 < luke-jr> petertodd: re your ACP-by-default PR: wouldn't this enable someone to add garbage inputs (spending, for example, the 0-value p2pool anyone-can-spend UTXOs) to high-fee transactions, avoiding reducing the fee enough to allow RBF by the original tx? (anyone else find themselves doing attack scenarios like this in dreams? O.o) 10:05 < wumpus> thanks otium 10:08 -!- rubensayshi [~ruben@82.201.93.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10 < instagibbs> luke-jr, might be a standard rule that all the ACP inputs have to increase the feerate of the transaction? 10:10 < instagibbs> (I haven't thought this through) 10:11 < instagibbs> that immediately rules out 0-value by definition, for one 10:11 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@159.203.193.74] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:11 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@159.203.193.74] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:14 < luke-jr> instagibbs: the spam input wouldn't necessarily be ACP, and in any case you'd see the spam-malleated version first 10:15 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@159.203.193.74] has quit [Client Quit] 10:15 < instagibbs> luke-jr, well, if my premise was correct the latter part wouldn't "matter", but my premise is wrong it seems 10:15 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@159.203.193.74] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:26 < michagogo> 18:47:51 [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/9358893518a19f38eab9186c768ad81c7a2f9cec 18:47:51 bitcoin/master 9358893 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for 0.12.1 0.13.0 10:26 < michagogo> Backport that commit to 0.13? 10:26 < michagogo> (Maybe also 0.12, if we think there's a chance there'll be a .2?) 10:27 < michagogo> Well, "backport" 10:27 < wumpus> possibly 10:27 < wumpus> I'm still fighting the bitcoin.org release announcement here https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1348 10:28 < wumpus> there is an error in the html generated from the md, but it doesn't tell where or the context 10:28 < wumpus> I thought I'd try to bisect it, divide up the page until I've found the part of the page where it happens but the check is so slow that that's pointless 10:29 < btcdrak> ping harding 10:29 < wumpus> also can't run the tests locally, something about "Your Ruby version is 2.3.1, but your Gemfile specified 2.0.0 10:29 < wumpus> " 10:29 < wumpus> fuck ruby, really 10:29 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:31 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:31 < kanzure> use rbenv 10:31 < kanzure> or rvm 10:32 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:32 -!- Yogh [~Yogh@f36186.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:33 < wumpus> can anyone that is able to run those scripts send me the malformed html file? thanks 10:35 < kanzure> you can use after_failure in the travis-ci yaml file to upload or store files from a failed build 10:36 < wumpus> good idea, or just cat the thing into the travis log 10:37 < kanzure> hah. 10:38 < luke-jr> wumpus: btw, the ann ML email doesn't verify either (not even the text/plain one) 10:38 < wumpus> it does verify here before sending 10:39 < wumpus> not sure what I'm doing wrong 10:39 < wumpus> getting kind of annoyed by this, nothing is working as it should 10:39 < luke-jr> the ML is doing some kind of changes, adding a footer at least; that's outside the signature, but who knows what else it's touching 10:39 < sipa> sigh 10:40 < wumpus> maybe MLs are unsuited for sending signed messages 10:40 < wumpus> next time i'll just upload the .asc file and send a link... 10:41 < luke-jr> probably. but this is a private ML, so it should be possible to configure it to just send like a regular PGP-signed email.. 10:41 < luke-jr> I would think anyway 10:41 < wumpus> possible, but I don't have time to look into that stuff really 10:42 < wumpus> there's tons of subtle changes that can invalidate a gpg signature 10:42 < Lauda> Compact blocks is enabled by default in 0.13.0? 10:42 < wumpus> I spent multiple days in that rabbit hole once 10:42 < instagibbs> Lauda, yes 10:42 < Lauda> I see, time to update then. Thanks! 10:42 < wumpus> man it's 2016 and even basic shit like that isn't working 10:42 < wumpus> stuff like that was working better in the 90's 10:42 < luke-jr> FWIW, my BFGMiner announce list on nongnu.org works fine for PGP 10:43 < wumpus> maybe I'm just getting too old 10:43 < sipa> who manages the bitcoin-dev list, actually? 10:43 < sipa> maybe it is a particular setting 10:44 < wumpus> if only the mailing list sent me my own message, I could compare 10:44 < luke-jr> bitcoin core ML is different from bitcoin-dev; I imagine btcdrak manages it 10:44 < TD-Linux> enigmail correctly detects the part of the message that is signed 10:44 < luke-jr> wumpus: I'll forward it 10:44 < wumpus> oh wait you mean the notification list? I should have that one, I have a test message 10:44 < wumpus> TD-Linux: that's the one from bitcoin-dev? 10:45 < TD-Linux> yes 10:45 < luke-jr> wumpus: yes 10:45 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:46 < TD-Linux> actually no, it's bitcoin-core-dev. I haven't gotten the bitcoin-dev one yet 10:46 < wumpus> ok, so that one works, that's good to hear. There was already a complainer about that too, but he had the digest mode, so probably that messed up the message 10:46 < luke-jr> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bfgminer-announce says it uses Mailman 2.1.21, so that's a known-usable ML sw 10:46 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:47 < wumpus> bitcoin-core-dev is the same host and software as bitcoin-dev 10:47 < achow101> Copying the text from the bitcoin-dev mailing list archive verifies fine 10:47 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:47 -!- Sosumi [~Leon@bl10-113-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:47 < instagibbs> yeah i did archive myself 10:49 < TD-Linux> it looks like I only got one of the two messages. does mailman deduplicate magically? 10:50 < kanzure> mail clients sometimes deduplicate on their own 10:52 < wumpus> this is the diff between the mail I sent and the one I received from bitcoin-announce: https://gist.github.com/laanwj/3807c6024c6c28ae06e567a63045fb25 10:52 < wumpus> I don't see any difference between the green and red lines 10:52 < wumpus> maybe I should open the diff in a hex editor... 10:52 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:53 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:53 < wumpus> 2d 20 20 at the beginning of a line becomes 2d a0 20 10:53 < wumpus> wow 10:54 < wumpus> oh wait no, 2d is the '-'. No, 20 20 at the beginning of a line becomes c2 a0 20 10:55 < wumpus> it's doing unicode magic! 10:56 < sipa> unicode magic... we should call that unicornde 10:56 < wumpus> lol sipa :D 10:57 -!- gazhaz [5228d359@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.40.211.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:00 < wumpus> so it looks like spaces are converted into non-breaking spaces 11:00 < wumpus> that could be an option 11:00 < sipa> solution: use non-breaking spaces in the announcement email! 11:01 < sipa> so which of the two lists does this? 11:01 -!- gazhaz [5228d359@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.40.211.89] has quit [Client Quit] 11:02 < luke-jr> sipa: the announcement ML on bitcoincore.org 11:03 < luke-jr> hmm, I need an announce ML for Knots too. :x 11:04 < btcdrak> luke-jr: bitcoin-core-dev mailing list is another LF managed list. 11:05 < luke-jr> btcdrak: I'm aware, but that's not the list with the problem 11:05 < btcdrak> verifying by copy paste from the ML archive works fine https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-core-dev/2016-August/000018.html 11:05 -!- aalex_ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:05 < sipa> luke-jr: i'm confused 11:06 < luke-jr> btcdrak: the problem is the https://bitcoincore.org/en/list/announcements/join/ 11:06 < btcdrak> luke-jr: oh. sorry I didnt understand. what happened? 11:07 < btcdrak> oh i see, it doesnt verify. Weird, the last ones did. 11:07 < luke-jr> btcdrak: it modified the message invalidating the PGP sig 11:08 < btcdrak> wumpus: I see what happened, I think you might have pasted it in the HTML window, so if you view the message original source there are HTML entities /tags all over the pace 11:09 < btcdrak> place* 11:09 < wumpus> after undoing the substititions (d.replace(b'\xc2\xa0',b'\x20')) it still does't pass, it also converts \#7840 on line 288 to #7840 11:09 < btcdrak> e.g https://i.imgur.com/oAzcLYb.png 11:09 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:11 < wumpus> btcdrak: I'm checking the text/plain attachment, not the html one, that's hopeless I'd fathom 11:12 < btcdrak> let me login and make a test with the test list 11:12 < btcdrak> sec 11:13 < sipa> i wonder whether we shouldn't link to the gitian build results in announcement emails 11:14 < sipa> it's probably not something every user should be confronted with, but i do think it is important to make this part of our process visible 11:14 < wumpus> I'm fine with that 11:14 < wumpus> I've added the hashes on recommendation of btcdrak, I'm fine with adding even more stuff next time 11:15 < btcdrak> and hopefully we'll have the verification too then as well. 11:15 < btcdrak> wumpus: pm 11:17 < sipa> btcdrak: not for 0.13.1 :) 11:18 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: Fingers crossed: https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1349 11:18 -!- TomMc [~tom@unaffiliated/tommc] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:20 < wumpus> gah I had just found out how to inject a cat into the right place into the makefile 11:20 < wumpus> but thanks :) 11:20 < wumpus> hope it solves it 11:22 -!- TomMc [~tom@unaffiliated/tommc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:23 -!- Lauda [~quassel@unaffiliated/lauda] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:29 -!- zooko` [~user@c-73-217-16-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34 < wumpus> it passes with "sed 's/\xc2\xa0/ /g' /tmp/test | sed 's/^ #7840/ \\#7840/g' |gpg" 11:34 < wumpus> where /tmp/test is the exported text/plain message 11:34 -!- Arichy [~Arichy@p4FD76C62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:34 < wumpus> so we should probably publish a validation FAQ for wumpus' botched gpg messages 11:36 < gmaxwell> I was about to report that the list message doesn't verify. 11:37 < Arichy> Glad to hear that You are aware of the email signature problem. Same here with Claws Mail 3.11.1 . And I am wondering why the Email is not signed with the release signing key. I had to google the email signing key.... 11:37 < wumpus> I should just give up trying to send GPG signed messages 11:39 < gmaxwell> Arichy: because the release signing key is kept offline and only used for release signing, presumably. 11:39 < wumpus> gmaxwell: the announce-list right? bitcoin-dev and bitcoin-core-dev messages should pass 11:39 < wumpus> I don't sign mails with a release-signing key 11:39 < wumpus> that's not what it's for 11:39 < wumpus> it only signs SHA256SUMS.asc files, if you want more of it, I' msorry to disappoint you 11:40 < kanzure> presumably the release signing key is only for release signing 11:40 < kanzure> announcement emails should probably not be signed by a release key 11:40 < wumpus> yes, trange uh 11:40 < kanzure> (instead signed by some other key) 11:40 < wumpus> although how kanzure words it does make sense 11:40 < gmaxwell> wumpus: yes. 11:40 < wumpus> gmaxwell: next time I'll convert spaces to non-breaking spaces first and it should work 11:41 < kanzure> oh this was email client fault? 11:41 < gmaxwell> wumpus: though if the content isn't plain ascii that might cause other mangling elsewhere. 11:41 < wumpus> (assuming there's no \# in the release notes) 11:41 < wumpus> kanzure: no, the client is not at fault, the list that failed to pass it through un-mangled has a web interface, the two lists I sent to with mutt did fine 11:42 < wumpus> gmaxwell: oh yes it may mangle it in another stage, fun! 11:42 < kanzure> oh. i'm not aware of a web interface for sending email to -announce. 11:42 < Arichy> @kanzure Makes sense regarding security to keep the release signing keys seperate, only from a user point of view, with the publicity about checking sigs, I thout ok let's import wumpus' key but that was the wrong one, and after googeling the missing one, that failed :-( 11:42 < wumpus> unicornde indeed 11:42 < sipa> wumpus: solution: next time just post a link to the bitcoin-core-dev LM archove page for the announcement mail :) 11:43 < kanzure> Arichy: one might think this is a feature not a bug of the release process- that users can recognize verification failure. 11:43 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43 < sipa> Arichy: i'm happy to see that therr are people who take that suggestion to verify signatures seriously 11:43 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:43 < wumpus> sipa: heh, yes posting a link is probably the best idea, maybe it'll even be let through unmangled if signed 11:44 < gmaxwell> Arichy: it's signed with the same key as last release. 11:44 < wumpus> oh wait signing a link makes no sense 11:46 < Arichy> @gmaxwell I had an old other wumpus key that had expired a year ago or so, I deleted that. Maybe last time I was not so aware of checking the sigs 11:46 < btcdrak> gmaxwell: we've found the issue and workaround for the announce list 11:46 < wumpus> Arichy: I've signed the release signing key with my main key. There is no 'old wumpus key', I have a personal key, which I've used for years, and a release sigining key 11:46 -!- pedrobra_ [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:47 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:47 < gmaxwell> Arichy: it's probably the same key but you needed to fetch an updated expiration. 11:47 < gmaxwell> Arichy: it's good practice to set keys to expire to force people to potentially go fetch a revocation. 11:47 < wumpus> I only have those two: any other keys on GPG keyservers, if they exist, are false 11:47 < Arichy> @gmaxwell I am very surprised of that! Did not know about something like that 11:47 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:48 < gmaxwell> and then periodically update the expire if the key is still not believed to be compromised. 11:49 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:49 < Arichy> [little bit offensive] If I would be the NSA or the Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó Guójiā Ānquánbù , I would keep this Email and PGP crap forever 11:49 < MarcoFalke> Error: Start tag a seen but an element of the same type was already open 11:49 < MarcoFalke> ull/7762">#7762< 11:49 < wumpus> my main key has fingerprint 71A3 B167 3540 5025 D447 E8F2 7481 0B01 2346 C9A6, the release signing key is 01EA 5486 DE18 A882 D4C2 6845 90C8 019E 36C2 E964 11:50 < luke-jr> also, expiration means it self-"revokes" if you lose the private key ;) 11:50 < wumpus> not that you should believe that coming from somone pretending to be wumpus on IRC 11:50 < wumpus> or something 11:50 < MarcoFalke> Maybe the hash tag before 7762? 11:50 -!- pedrobra_ [~pedrobran@79.242.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:51 < wumpus> oh my cat worked 11:52 < wumpus> #7762 yes that definitely doesn't look like standards-compliant HTML 11:53 < Arichy> @sipa Glad to get positive feedback :-) 11:53 < wumpus> though I'm sure internet explorer would just accept it... 11:53 < gmaxwell> nested links. 11:54 -!- fengling [~fengling@58.135.95.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54 < GitHub149> [bitcoin] roques closed pull request #8565: .gitignore TAGS and emacs lock files (master...gitignore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8565 11:54 < MarcoFalke> They call it Edge, now 11:55 < wumpus> I've factored the # out of the [], let's see if that does it 11:55 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: if it was that simple, I'm fairly sure that windows 10 has both IE and Edge 11:57 < GitHub45> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8527: Take minRelayTxFee into account in FEEFILTER messages (master...clampfeefilter) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8527 12:02 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:04 -!- jcorgan [~jcorgan@unaffiliated/jcorgan] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:06 < PatBoy> can i ask a question n the spec of 0.13.0 here ? or just developement ? (sry to ask) 12:06 < luke-jr> PatBoy: #bitcoin 12:06 < PatBoy> okk thx 12:06 < PatBoy> sry 12:06 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: gtg] 12:06 -!- Arichy [~Arichy@p4FD76C62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:07 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:12 < MarcoFalke> wumpus: Passed!1!! 12:12 < wumpus> whooooo 12:12 < wumpus> thanks, going to clean up that pull 12:22 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:30 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:30 -!- MarcoFalke [~marco@host10-2.natpool.mwn.de] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 12:33 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:39 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:40 -!- aalex__ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:42 -!- aalex_ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit 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Chris_Stewart_5> in the hex dump part 12:59 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:59 < Chris_Stewart_5> wouldn't it be 'd1' instead of '1d'? 12:59 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:02 < sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: no, in a hex dump you put the more significant of the 2 characters for a byte first 13:03 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has quit [Quit: gtg] 13:04 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- juscamarena [~jus@desktop-d0kf2oc.media.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:13 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/spudowiar] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:15 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:18 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20 -!- pedrobranco [~pedrobran@167.225.61.94.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:24 -!- pedrobranco 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midnightmagic> Lots of people getting into the gitian builds. Surprising number, really. A lot of people are taking action as a result of that warning. 22:44 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.178.197] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:47 < luke-jr> midnightmagic: it makes me more confident Bitcoin in general can gain user awareness and security needed to succeed 22:48 < midnightmagic> This is one of those things: lots of people want to help but either don't know how or can't think of what *they* can do to help. 22:51 < gmaxwell> There are only 200 or so publically reachable nodes running 0.13. ... something else people can do. :) upgrade their nodes. 22:53 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: I actually moved most of my hot wallet funds out today in preparation for upgrading mine (and hopefully being able to run it 24/7 again) 22:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:59 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 23:11 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:12 -!- harrymm [~wayne@171.5.178.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30 -!- harrymm [~wayne@223.205.79.195] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:37 -!- morcos [~morcos@static-100-38-11-146.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:38 -!- morcos [~morcos@static-100-38-11-146.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:38 -!- zxzzt [~prod@static-100-38-11-146.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:38 -!- zxzzt [~prod@static-100-38-11-146.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:43 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:45 -!- harrymm [~wayne@223.205.79.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:53 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:54 < GitHub121> [bitcoin] rebroad opened pull request #8571: Don't disconnect just because a node's services have changed. 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