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00:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/22e301a3d56d...4afb5aa9e173
00:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64fb0ac practicalswift: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit"...
00:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4afb5aa Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10969: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit"...
00:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10969: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit" (master...explicit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10969
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00:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #11084: [mempool] Mempool snapshots to avoid lots of locking (master...mempool-snapshot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11084
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00:12 < fanquake> wumpus are you merging a few PRs now, or reviewing
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00:16 < fanquake> I think 11071, 11066, 11083, 10878 are ready to go. Fairly trivial.
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00:29 <@wumpus> fanquake: thanks! will take a look
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00:42 < fanquake> Also 11076 now that it's squashed and the commit message is fixed.
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00:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4afb5aa9e173...dbf6bd6ea05f
00:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d1e6f91 practicalswift: Prefer compile-time checking over run-time checking
00:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dbf6bd6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11071: Use static_assert(…, …) (C++11) instead of assert(…) where appropriate...
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00:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11071: Use static_assert(…, …) (C++11) instead of assert(…) where appropriate (master...static_assert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11071
00:48 < gmaxwell> kallewoof: copying the mempool ids worries me, what happens when it has a million tiny transactions in it... that will be pretty slow and blow out all the caches.  Would it have been possible to use a closure like structure to carry the required operations under a single grab of the lock.  (maybe thats worse, haven't benchmarked)
00:49 <@wumpus> sounds like something that definitely needs benchmarks
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00:51 < kallewoof> Not sure what you mean by ids. Right now the PR I submitted will make a snapshot copying over the txs in the list as CTxMempoolEntry's. That is one single iteration over mapTx in the mempool, comparing each to the given std::set. I think this is faster than iterating mapTx once per hash, but not sure. Yes, proper benchmarks are probably needed...
00:52 < gmaxwell> kallewoof: it's just that there can be a million-ish entries in mapTx. So I think that in extreme cases your snapshot could be quite slow. Though I certantly believe it's faster with the typically small mempools.
00:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dbf6bd6ea05f...f3558834db4d
00:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f9ca0fe Jonas Nick: Fix combinerawtransaction RPC help result section
00:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f355883 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11083: Fix combinerawtransaction RPC help result section...
00:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11083: Fix combinerawtransaction RPC help result section (master...fix-combinerawtransaction-help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11083
00:56 < kallewoof> gmaxwell: I realized I am not stopping iteration ever, so I switched the code a bit (1. it will now erase found entries from set, and 2. it will break when set is empty). I will do benchmarks to see how mempool size impacts speed there.
00:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f3558834db4d...c58128f18992
00:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 72a184a Carl Dong: Update init.md: Fix line breaks in section 3b.
00:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d201e40 Carl Dong: Update init.md: Fix section numbering.
00:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c58128f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10878: Docs: Fix Markdown formatting issues in init.md...
00:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10878: Docs: Fix Markdown formatting issues in init.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10878
00:59 < kallewoof> ... I *am* assuming that iterating over mapTx once is better than simply doing mapTx.find() for each hash. I probably shouldn't assume that.
01:00 < sipa> iterating is O(1) per ste
01:00 < sipa> find is O(log n)
01:01 < kallewoof> sipa: Thanks. So with big mempool and small set, my approach is bad. Will fix.
01:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/252ca9c5d8d7...1c4b9b31355f
01:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 30c246b practicalswift: Updating the release notes (minor stylistic changes)
01:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 1c4b9b3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11076: 0.15 release-notes nits: fix redundancy, remove accidental parenthesis & fix range style...
01:10 < kallewoof> gmaxwell: Updated. With k=vInvTx.size(), n=mapTx.size(), pre: O(k log n); post: O(k log n). This is mapTx stuff only. That's the part you were concerned about, right?
01:13 < gmaxwell> okay, thats more interesting.
01:20 < gmaxwell> its late, I must be confused... because I don't understand how this doesn't violate the locking on the multiindex. But I never did understand all the multiindex details all that well.
01:21 < kallewoof> The snapshot is created under lock. Then it's used single-thread-like. How would that violate multiindex locking?
01:23 < gmaxwell> Though.. couple extra points: when it's going to access all the vInvTx it would probably be a lot faster to pull all the things that get compared out at once instead of building a CTxMemPool::indexed_transaction_set.
01:24 < gmaxwell> kallewoof: because there are references being copied, who owns the underlying data?
01:24 < gmaxwell> e.g. what happens when a mempool entry is deleted while you've dropped the lock but are accessing the snapshot.
01:25 < kallewoof> I am pretty sure the CTxMemPoolEntry is copied, not referenced.
01:26 < gmaxwell> the mempool entry contains references.
01:26 < kallewoof> if deleted, the inv may contain the hash of a deleted tx but that would have been the case if you had arrived a fraction of a second earlier, too, so doesn't seem unacceptable
01:26 < gmaxwell> (and it better, you sure as heck don't want to copy all the txn! :) )
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01:27 < kallewoof> Oh, yes. But these are accessed without locking already. 
01:27 < kallewoof> Or at the least, they are made available after lock is released.
01:27 < sipa> what is accessed?
01:27 < kallewoof> tx, for example.
01:28 < sipa> the mempool contains shared pointers to constant transactions
01:28 < sipa> you can copy the shared pointers under lock
01:28 < sipa> and then lose the lock
01:28 < sipa> and then deref the shared pointers to txn
01:28 < sipa> but nothing else
01:28 < kallewoof> Yes. And if I have a separate structure with pointers to those txs, I can do whatever I want with it, right?
01:28 < sipa> yes     
01:28 < sipa> txn are immutable
01:28 < kallewoof> Then I think I'm good.
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01:40 < kallewoof> gmaxwell: forgot to reply regarding the vInvTx optimization you mentioned; I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean I should pull out the TxMempoolInfo objects directly instead of doing the snapshot middle step?
01:41 < kallewoof> I kind of intended for the snapshot class to be useful in other places but if this is the only one that might be better.
01:41 < gmaxwell> The only things that get accessed in the objects IIRC are their depth (and if they're in there or not), which means that you can just fetch all the data that the sort will later access in advance, instead of copying the whole CTxMemPoolEntry object.
01:42 < gmaxwell> Which will probably be very time and memory inefficient (e.g. copying shared pointers)
01:42 < kallewoof> Ahh.. that makes sense.
01:43 < gmaxwell> (also their feerate, perhaps. vague recolletion here, in any case, it's just a couple narrow things. We do something like that for the node sorts for eviction)
01:44  * kallewoof nods
01:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dooglus opened pull request #11085: Add 'sethdseed' RPC to initialize or replace HD seed. (master...set_hd_seed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11085
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02:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c58128f18992...9f60b3707d1e
02:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 07685d1 Jonas Schnelli: Add length check for CExtKey deserialization
02:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9f60b37 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11081: Add length check for CExtKey deserialization (jonasschnelli, guidovranken)...
02:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11081: Add length check for CExtKey deserialization (jonasschnelli, guidovranken) (master...2017/08/fix_cextkey) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11081
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06:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9f60b3707d1e...aeec8b4b6882
06:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5be6e9b Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Update build-openbsd for 6.1...
06:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aeec8b4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11080: doc: Update build-openbsd for 6.1...
06:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11080: doc: Update build-openbsd for 6.1 (master...2017_08_openbsd_bump) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11080
06:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] BitonicEelis opened pull request #11087: Diagnose unsuitable outputs in lockunspent(). (master...lockunspent) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11087
06:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aeec8b4b6882...9e00a625b43c
06:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bea8e9e practicalswift: Document the preference of nullptr over NULL or (void*)0
06:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9e00a62 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11066: Document the preference of nullptr over NULL or (void*)0...
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06:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11066: Document the preference of nullptr over NULL or (void*)0 (master...document-nullptr-preference) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11066
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06:50 < promag> wumpus what about https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11039 ?
06:55 <@wumpus> promag: I'll have a look
06:56 < promag> np, 
06:56 <@wumpus> I like replacing .count() and [] with one find
06:56 <@wumpus> incidentally, [] generates quite a lot of code
06:57 <@wumpus> (when used with maps)
06:57 < promag> there is a PR to replace that with .at()
06:57 < promag> the idea there is just to avoid the 2nd lookup
06:58 <@wumpus> yes     
07:01 <@wumpus> but the stanza of using count then [] (sometimes even multiple times) instead of using an iterator always annoyed me (but apparently not enough to patch it myself), happy to see it go
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07:06 < luke-jr> might be nice to do a explicittype& varname = it->second; though - but this is definitely an improvement
07:07 < luke-jr> (it's hard to tell what it->second actually is here)
07:09 <@wumpus> luke-jr:  looks like that's what he does
07:10 <@wumpus> luke-jr: only the iterator is assigned to an auto
07:10 < luke-jr> I'm not talking about the iterator ;p
07:10 < promag> yes, I almost did that, but I think the best is to switch those finds with GetWalletTx which is almost never used
07:11 <@wumpus> luke-jr: I know, but he does "CWalletTx& wtx = it->second;" in many places
07:11 <@wumpus> which matches "explicittype& varname = it->second; " right?
07:11 < luke-jr> yes, it should be in the other places too
07:11 <@wumpus> meh     
07:11 < promag> those "explicittype& varname = it->second; "  were already there
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07:11 <@wumpus> yes. it's fine.
07:12 < promag> luke-jr: I didn't add new vars
07:12 < luke-jr> promag: I'm saying you should in this case
07:12 < luke-jr> directly using it->second is poor for readability
07:13 < promag> that will cause a bigger diff, out of scope IMO
07:13 <@wumpus> please don't change it now, I've just reviewed it
07:13 <@wumpus> yeah
07:14 <@wumpus> the scope is "avoid second wallet lookup", which he did,  The old code was "mapWallet[txin.prevout.hash].MarkDirty();" whichalso  had no explicit type.
07:15 < luke-jr> sure
07:15 < promag> luke-jr: I almost did that, just thought those can be improved in a later PR
07:15 < promag> cool
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07:17 < luke-jr> even with the nit, it's a utACK, not a NACK ;)
07:17 < luke-jr> still a clear improvement
07:19 < promag> ty     
07:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9e00a625b43c...fc51565cbd4c
07:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8f2f1e0 João Barbosa: wallet: Avoid second mapWallet lookup
07:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fc51565 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11039: Avoid second mapWallet lookup...
07:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11039: Avoid second mapWallet lookup (master...2017-08-avoid-second-mapwallet-lookup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11039
07:36 < promag> This is similar https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11041/files but does what luke-jr mentioned
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07:54 < promag> PR "tagged" with WIP should not be reviewed correct?
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08:03 <@wumpus> promag: only the general direction, but reviewing whether all i's are dotted is probably a waste of time and effort
08:04 < promag> right
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08:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fc51565cbd4c...0e5b7486cb7f
08:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1221f60 John Newbery: [wallet] Remove keypool_topup_cleanups...
08:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67ceff4 John Newbery: [wallet] Add logging to MarkReserveKeysAsUsed
08:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0e5b748 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11044: [wallet] Keypool topup cleanups...
08:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11044: [wallet] Keypool topup cleanups (master...keypool_topup_cleanups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11044
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09:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #11089: Enable various p2sh-p2wpkh functionality (master...p2shp2wpkhstuff) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11089
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09:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs reopened pull request #9017: Enable various p2sh-p2wpkh functionality (master...p2shp2wpkhstuff) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9017
09:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0e5b7486cb7f...262167393d05
09:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e53615b Andrew Chow: Remove vchDefaultKey and have better first run detection...
09:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2621673 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10952: [wallet] Remove vchDefaultKey and have better first run detection...
09:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10952: [wallet] Remove vchDefaultKey and have better first run detection (master...remove-defaultkey) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10952
09:59 < luke-jr> instagibbs: see #11089
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10:13 < instagibbs> luke-jr, ah sorry didn't notice that
10:13 < luke-jr> instagibbs: if you want to take it back, I can close
10:13 < instagibbs> nah, you rebased for me
10:13 < instagibbs> thanks :P
10:13 < luke-jr> although I cut out some of it
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10:15 < instagibbs> sure, doesn't have to be done all at once
10:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs closed pull request #9017: Enable various p2sh-p2wpkh functionality (master...p2shp2wpkhstuff) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9017
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10:29 < luke-jr> instagibbs: well, I disagree with extending sign/verify ;)
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10:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Derek701 opened pull request #11090: Update release-notes.md (0.15...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11090
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10:40 < instagibbs> luke-jr, no strong opinions :)
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12:42 < warren> https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/    "(this effectively results in an effective limit closer to 1.6 to 2 MB)."  <--- This can be improved, asking for fact checks.
12:43 < warren> 1) I don't think 'effective limit" is accurate in describing what is really a practical size compared to pre-segwit transaction uses, which these estimates were really referring to?
12:44 < warren> 2) And isn't 1.6MB-2MB the very old estimates, later found in a Bitfury study (?) to be more like 2.1MB?  I wonder what it would be now.
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12:59 < gmaxwell> warren: luke posted an alaysis patch on reddit, it's about 1.9x IIRC.
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13:07 < warren> "effective limit" -> "effective size"?
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13:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #11091: test: Increase initial RPC timeout to 60 seconds (master...2017_08_test_wait_for_rpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11091
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13:33 < luke-jr> does per-TXO store the outpoint in both the key and the value? O.o
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13:36 < sipa> luke-jr: no, only in the key
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13:37 < sipa> COutPoint in the key, CTxOut in the value
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14:23 < cfields> luke-jr: grr, using git archive won't work either. Ironically, because the substitution from 'git archive' creates a diff.
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14:37 < luke-jr> >_<     
14:37 < luke-jr> well, we want that anyway I think, so maybe PR it for master at least
14:37 < luke-jr> or at least don't discard it yet
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14:38 < luke-jr> cfields: so that leaves either fixing the tarball to build with the desired string, or making src/obj/build.h manually, right?
14:39 < cfields> luke-jr: i don't think we can make it manually, it'll just get overwritten
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14:41 < BlueMatt> cfields: can you confirm there is nothing stopping switching sync.h primitives to std?
14:41 < cfields> BlueMatt: sure, let me finish this thing up first though
14:41 < BlueMatt> no rush
14:42 < BlueMatt> cfields: just comment on 10866
14:42 < luke-jr>     echo '#!/bin/true' >share/genbuild.sh
14:42 < luke-jr>     mkdir -p src/obj
14:42 < luke-jr>     echo "#define BUILD_SUFFIX gentoo${PVR#${PV}}" >src/obj/build.h
14:42 < luke-jr> cfields: ^ what I do for Gentoo
14:43 < cfields> BlueMatt: oh. at the very least, CSemaphore/CScheduler/CCheckqueue non-interruptible
14:44 < BlueMatt> hmm?
14:44 < BlueMatt> I dont think CSemaphore needs to be interruptible
14:44 < BlueMatt> CScheduler and CCheckqueue use boost:: directiyl
14:44 < BlueMatt> directly
14:46 < cfields> BlueMatt: ok right, those were preventing the switch to std::thread.
14:46 < BlueMatt> yes     
14:46 < cfields> luke-jr: heh
14:48 < cfields> BlueMatt: yea, i guess CSemaphore is ok too. though didn't we decide at one point that the interruptions were saving us?
14:50 < BlueMatt> on CSemaphore? no?
14:50 < cfields> nm, was thinking of e007b24
14:51 < cfields> i guess that commit shows we rely on posting :)
14:51 < BlueMatt> yes, we rely on posting
14:54 < cfields> ok neat, i guess the boost::mutex dep slowly dissolved
14:55 < BlueMatt> =D     
14:55 < cfields> luke-jr: ok, want to just do that for gitian?
14:55 < BlueMatt> well, no, not neat, really, we have locking primitives that have useful debug things in them, and a bunch of code is blindly using boost:: directly :(
14:55 < BlueMatt> but oh well
14:55 < cfields> that's really gross, as it completely defeats the purpose of all of the version stuff
14:56 < cfields> but i guess it works for 0.15
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14:57 < luke-jr> cfields: personally, I prefer the "just get it fixed" approach, but if we don't have time for that, okay..
14:57 < cfields> luke-jr: well the "just get it fixed" approach involves nuking most of our version handling, no?
14:58 < cfields> i think we'll just take the complexity down to "the tarball injected the version" or "check git" ?
15:00 < luke-jr> cfields: more like using genbuild on the git to generate the stuff used by the tar
15:01 < luke-jr> what should it say, btw?
15:01 < cfields> sure, that works
15:01 < cfields> hmm?
15:01 < luke-jr> I've never seen it without the git hash in the version ;)
15:01 < luke-jr> Bitcoin Core RPC client version v0.15.0
15:02 < luke-jr> ?     
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15:03 < cfields> oh, heh
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15:03 < cfields> let me check 0.14.2
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15:09 < cfields> splash says "v0.14.2"
15:09 < luke-jr> cfields: working on another branch atm, can you try http://codepad.org/TexBr9BW ?
15:09 < cfields> i think the rc's usually have a git commit tacked on though. trying to find one
15:10 < cfields> heh, good idea
15:12 < cfields> testing
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15:17 < cfields> we should nuke the GIT_DIR export, then
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15:22 < luke-jr> cfields: yes, probably
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15:45 < cfields> luke-jr: it works as-is
15:46 < cfields> luke-jr: i have to run out. you're welcome to PR, or I'll do it tonight when I get back
15:46 < cfields> thanks for the fix :)
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15:48 < luke-jr> cfields: np, although it's probably  not a good long-term fix..
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16:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MojaPochi opened pull request #11092: Litecoin ver 0.10.4 for macOS (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11092
16:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #11092: Litecoin ver 0.10.4 for macOS (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11092
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