--- Day changed Sat Sep 09 2017 00:05 -!- promag [~promag@2001:8a0:fe30:de01:b4c2:65b8:9e5a:d734] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:05 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:08 -!- Austindoggie [~austindog@2600:380:c061:38f0:1c66:881:6ef3:5fbb] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:09 -!- promag [~promag@2001:8a0:fe30:de01:b4c2:65b8:9e5a:d734] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:23 -!- Gunnie [~kamk@65.82.cust.tetanet.cz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:10 -!- hxz [~hxz@219.156.117.181] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:11 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18 -!- Gunnie [~kamk@65.82.cust.tetanet.cz] has left #bitcoin-core-dev ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 01:28 -!- sanjeev [~sanjeev@103.196.79.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:33 -!- sanjeev [~sanjeev@103.196.79.136] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:46 -!- chang [2f588851@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.88.136.81] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:46 -!- chang [2f588851@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.88.136.81] has quit [Client Quit] 01:50 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:10 < meshcollider> There's no support for BIP 39 in core currently is there 02:11 < sipa> no 02:12 < meshcollider> #11085 is adding ability to set a new HD seed using a WIF private key, would there be any reason not to take that further and allow setting a 512 bit seed or even mnemonic itself? 02:18 -!- ula [~kvirc@b2b-78-94-9-226.unitymedia.biz] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:21 -!- hxz [~hxz@219.156.117.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:22 -!- ula [~kvirc@b2b-78-94-9-226.unitymedia.biz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:28 -!- VictorSN [~user@145.116.18.104] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:39 -!- VictorSN [~user@145.116.18.104] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:50 < gmaxwell> meshcollider: bip39 is a bad spec, disavowed by some of its authors even. Among other issues it has no facilities for versioning, which is a critical flaw. 02:51 -!- promag [~promag@2001:8a0:fe30:de01:b4c2:65b8:9e5a:d734] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:55 < meshcollider> mhm true, but its pretty widely supported in hardware wallets and online wallets for backups so even if we didn't add mnemonic support itself, wouldn't it be useful to be able to set any seed for an HD wallet if you wanted to? Not just using a WIF private key? 02:56 < gmaxwell> doesn't make any sense. 02:56 -!- promag [~promag@2001:8a0:fe30:de01:b4c2:65b8:9e5a:d734] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:56 < gmaxwell> you can import indivigual keys 02:56 < gmaxwell> but just having the same seed wouldn't result in the same derrived keys 02:56 < gmaxwell> unless the feature set and style were exactly the same. 02:57 < gmaxwell> The whole idea of compatibly imported keys is wrongheaded-- at least in a world where all wallets don't have exactly the same functionality-- and can result in funds loss. 02:57 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:57 < meshcollider> I mean, most support bip 32, 39 and 44, so if you imported the 512 bit seed generated from a mnemonic from bip 39, using bip 32 to generate master key, you'd have all the same keys? 02:58 < meshcollider> as long as they support the same seed -> master key in bip32 and tree structure in bip44 02:58 < gmaxwell> Which we will not, because it's insecure if key export is possible. 03:00 < meshcollider> not sure what you mean sorry? 03:00 < gmaxwell> and again, not actually compatible because.. unversioned.. how do you know if the key is using segwit or not.. p2sh or not. 03:00 < meshcollider> key export is possible currently with dumpwallet? 03:00 < gmaxwell> meshcollider: bip 44 forces public derrivation, if you give someone one private key and they find out your extended public key they can derrive all your private keys. 03:01 < gmaxwell> BIP44 basically violates bip32 by applying public derrivation to all cases, it should only be used in cases where export is not permitted; which is plausable for hardware wallets. 03:02 < meshcollider> ohhh you mean no to adding bip 44 support, not importing arbitrary seeds 03:02 -!- fydel [~quassel@204.12.217.226] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 03:03 < meshcollider> Yeah good point, fair enough then it would be pretty useless 👍 03:03 < meshcollider> I was only thinking about the security of importing the seed, not about bip44 itself hence my confusion 03:03 -!- fydel [~quassel@204.12.217.226] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:03 < gmaxwell> at some point we might support wallets which have export disabled, e.g. wallets with a public derrivation of whatever path, but it should be seperate. 03:03 < gmaxwell> with multiwallet thats more reasonable. 03:04 -!- fydel [~quassel@204.12.217.226] has quit [Changing host] 03:04 -!- fydel [~quassel@unaffiliated/fydel] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:04 -!- VictorSN [~user@145.116.18.104] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:58 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:14 -!- VictorSN [~user@145.116.18.104] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:23 -!- chjj 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Just had a couple of questions regarding the online documentation... first of all, do you recommend running this as root? Would it be wiser to run the daemon as a separate user/group? 11:22 < bane5000> Also, I know how to operate a firewall, with that being said, does the p2p function require upnp? Would i be safe to turn it off and just forward incoming connections on port 8333 (or whichever port it is) to the server? 11:22 < bane5000> Thanks guys :) 11:25 < sipa> bane5000: no need to run as root, forwarding 8333 is perfectly fine but you'll need to configure your external ip address (-externalip=IP on cmdline, or externalip=IP in bitcoin.conf) 11:27 < bane5000> sipa: Fantastic! I appreciate the information. Also, upon compilation, i just issue ./configure --disable-wallet (if i remember correctly?) 11:39 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:57 -!- bane5000 [~bane@c-71-57-140-3.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 12:09 -!- wxxs [~chatzilla@ulf640-07.stwserver.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:11 -!- wxxs [~chatzilla@185.38.150.115] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:15 < MarcoFalke> where is gribble? pls revive 12:20 < sipa> nanotube: ^ 12:29 -!- rhavar [uid237883@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-siuprhkmuirirqsq] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:34 < nanotube> sipa: it looks like gribble is banned from here 12:34 < nanotube> * #bitcoin-core-dev Banlist: Thu Aug 17 15:16:57 2017 *!*gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble sipa!~pw@unaffiliated/sipa1024 12:36 < sipa> oh, yes! 12:36 < nanotube> was it thrashing? 12:37 < sipa> it was responding with extremely large lag (minutes or more), making it more distracting than helpful 12:37 < nanotube> ah 12:37 < nanotube> it seems it's working speedily presently 12:38 < sipa> good 12:38 < nanotube> i'll tell him to join back in once the ban's off. :) 12:40 -!- mode/#bitcoin-core-dev [+o sipa] by ChanServ 12:41 -!- mode/#bitcoin-core-dev [-b *!*gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] by sipa 12:41 -!- echonaut4 [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41 -!- mode/#bitcoin-core-dev [-o sipa] by sipa 12:41 -!- echonaut [~echonaut@46.101.192.134] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:55 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:19 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sgjvcwjbxohybcas] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:31 -!- adiabat [~adiabat@45.63.20.152] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 13:44 -!- Neil_ [8d00940b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.0.148.11] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:50 -!- Neil_ [8d00940b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.0.148.11] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52 -!- jtimon [~quassel@199.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:04 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 14:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:31 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:32 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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If youre a dev this will be no brainers to you 17:55 < sipa> ask, don't ask to ask 17:59 < freshbtcer2> well i edited the source code and compiled, generated the merkle and genesis just fine, but after i entered genesis twice into main.cpp and once into checkpoints.cpp and merkle once into main.cpp, i got an error Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datadir for network? 18:00 < freshbtcer2> heres the whole error output 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 LoadBlockIndexDB(): last block file info: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=1, size=285, heights=0...0, time=2017-09-09...2017-09-09) 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 LoadBlockIndexDB(): transaction index disabled 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 Error: Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datadir for network? 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 Shutdown : In progress... 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 StopNode() 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Flushed 0 addresses to peers.dat 50ms 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Committing 0 changed transactions to coin database... 18:00 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Shutdown : done 18:00 -!- Oskii [dcfd340e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.52.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01 < freshbtcer2> but also in net.cpp i added my local ip where i compiled.. i tried compiling on a digital ocean droplet but it failed... can i compile locally and scp to droplet to get that node running 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 LoadBlockIndexDB(): last block file = 0 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 LoadBlockIndexDB(): last block file info: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=1, size=285, heights=0...0, time=2017-09-09...2017-09-09) 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 LoadBlockIndexDB(): transaction index disabled 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 Error: Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datadir for network? 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 Shutdown : In progress... 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:08 StopNode() 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Flushed 0 addresses to peers.dat 50ms 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Committing 0 changed transactions to coin database... 18:06 < freshbtcer2> 2017-09-10 00:11:09 Shutdown : done 18:06 < freshbtcer2> thats the whole error output if anyone wants to help somebody in need 18:07 < sipa> freshbtcer2: please do not paste more than 3 lines on irc; use a pastebin sote 18:07 < sipa> freshbtcer2: development of altcoins is also offtopic here 18:08 < freshbtcer2> ok sorry about that, been a while since being in an irc channel 18:09 < freshbtcer2> well dont know where else to go i just figured btc devs are great at what they do and could answer it simply 18:13 < sipa> try #altcoin-dev or ##altcoin-dev (i'm unsure) 18:16 < meshcollider> the latter, ##altcoin-dev 18:19 -!- hxz [~hxz@219.156.114.108] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:22 -!- ula [~kvirc@b2b-78-94-9-226.unitymedia.biz] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:49 -!- btcdrak [uid239175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jdtflvvflicgiwii] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:04 -!- Oskii [dcfd340e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.52.14] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:04 < Oskii> I'm having trouble seeing the chat here 19:04 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16 -!- Oskii [dcfd340e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.52.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11295: doc: Old fee_estimates.dat are discarded by 0.15.0 (0.15...Mf1709-docFeeEst015) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11295 19:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11005: Tests: Add a lint check for trailing whitespace (master...whitespace) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11005 19:31 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9] 19:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3255d6347b1f...11dacc6154c4 19:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f38c051 fanquake: [depends] Don't build libevent sample code 19:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 11dacc6 MarcoFalke: Merge #11286: [depends] Don't build libevent sample code... 19:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11286: [depends] Don't build libevent sample code (master...dont-build-libevent-samples) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11286 19:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11296: [0.14] travis: filter out pyenv (0.14...Mf1709-travisNoPyenv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11296 19:55 < meshcollider> Can someone please restart travis on #11289 19:57 < luke-jr> done 20:06 < meshcollider> thanks 20:25 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:40 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56 -!- yasri [bca6ecb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.166.236.181] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:58 -!- btcdrak [uid239175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jdtflvvflicgiwii] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:01 -!- yasri [bca6ecb5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.166.236.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:14 < meshcollider> we're getting so many random travis failures from "if [ -d ~/.bitcoin ]; then false; fi" 21:14 < meshcollider> why do some builds end up with the directory being created and others don't? 21:15 < meshcollider> If its that variable, perhaps that check should be removed? 21:18 < sipa> i don't understand what's causing it 21:19 < meshcollider> yeah both #11289 and I see your #11167 has 3 failures in it, no code change should do that 21:20 < meshcollider> Perhaps we could just add a line to .travis.yml in the before_script: section or something to delete the directory if it exists 21:27 < sipa> meshcollider: want to create a PR? 21:28 < meshcollider> Yep will do, we could just rerun travis on it a few times to see if we still get any random errors because I have no idea how to test locally 21:29 < sipa> meshcollider: i'll restart some 21:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MeshCollider opened pull request #11297: Make sure ~/.bitcoin doesn't exist before build (master...201709_travis_delete_dir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11297 21:31 < sipa> restarted 11289 21:32 < meshcollider> Well the fix in 11297 wouldn't have an effect on 11289 unless it was merged 21:32 < sipa> of course 21:33 < meshcollider> But clearly 11289 only changes RPC helptext, should definitely not have made any directories lol 21:33 < sipa> restarted 11167 21:37 < meshcollider> Oh you could restart 11268 too since that should be fixed now by 11271 21:39 < sipa> done 21:43 < meshcollider> hmm yep #11289 failed again, same issue, so lets see how travis does with 11297 21:48 < sipa> ay 22:03 -!- freshbtcer2 [~freshbtce@2601:18a:8302:911c:40d7:5820:7db3:8f99] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08 < meshcollider> yep it passed, want to run it one more time just to make sure we didn't get lucky? 22:09 < sipa> restarted 22:30 < meshcollider> ok yep it passed again 22:30 < meshcollider> guessing that fixes the issue then :) 22:42 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:53 -!- tknp [~textual@cpe-98-14-231-12.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:05 -!- jtimon [~quassel@199.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:07 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:57 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev