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gmaxwell: I'd even expect little benefit from lto across library boundaries in code that uses secp256k1, pretty much all secp256k1 operations take significant time and probably little would be won in e.g. inlining/specializing them into the caller 03:52 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@xdsl-31-164-62-119.adslplus.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:52 -!- bl116 [~bl116vbth@cpe-174-97-240-26.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:56 -!- tiagotrs [~tiago@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:07 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@xdsl-31-164-62-119.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:07 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@xdsl-31-164-62-119.adslplus.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:10 -!- btcdrak [uid234579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xnpidryxcddufwrq] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:26 -!- ff [8c73cb85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.140.115.203.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:41 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@xdsl-31-164-62-119.adslplus.ch] has 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When clearing addrman clear mapInfo and mapAddr. by instagibbs · Pull Request #11252 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 05:23 < netyul> oi 05:24 -!- netyul [b323bdf6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.35.189.246] has quit [Client Quit] 05:24 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:25 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:28 -!- wunpunch [~Alli@2a02:c7d:49ce:da00:bdba:c385:b42b:5a8e] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:29 -!- wunpunch [~Alli@2a02:c7d:49ce:da00:bdba:c385:b42b:5a8e] has quit [Client Quit] 05:29 -!- Haaggis [~Alli@2a02:c7d:49ce:da00:bdba:c385:b42b:5a8e] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:30 -!- Haaggis [~Alli@2a02:c7d:49ce:da00:bdba:c385:b42b:5a8e] has quit [Client Quit] 05:30 -!- wunpunch [~Alli@2a02:c7d:49ce:da00:bdba:c385:b42b:5a8e] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:31 < wumpus> instagibbs: I guess it still doesn't explain why the file gets corrupted, but not crashing is good, thanks for the fix :) 05:31 < instagibbs> right, mine was specifically running out of battery, but others seems not the case 05:34 < wumpus> oh indeed it might be something like truncating while writing due to unclean exit 05:36 < wumpus> more robustly it would write to peers.dat.tmp and then do an atomic rename when finished 05:37 < wumpus> we did a similar thing with the auth cookie 05:38 < wumpus> (though for a different reason) 05:51 -!- laurentmt1 [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:53 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53 -!- laurentmt1 is now known as laurentmt 06:01 -!- str4d [~str4d@187.153.90.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/2ce9e586d5b11e1f61af4db27b7326687d5e5124 06:03 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 2ce9e58 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Fill in 0.15.1 changelog and authors in release notes... 06:19 -!- str4d 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Or the open source project figures as an entity? 08:33 < wumpus> Sentineo: the problem is that they don't recognize an open source project as entity (because it isn't really one) - I'm sure I could get a signing key for my company, or have one of the well-known companies in the space provide a signing key, it's not like we lack options, but whoever signs it is going to raise questions. 08:34 < Sentineo> right 08:34 < Sentineo> human nature, nothing is enough ;) 08:34 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:34 < Sentineo> ty 08:35 < LumberCartel> wxss: What's the problem with The Bitcoin Foundation, Inc.? 08:35 < wumpus> Sentineo: yeah it's a political issue, not a technical one, so much harder. If only OSes supported decentralized signing e.g. gitian builds. 08:36 < wumpus> LumberCartel wxss please take the fight about TBF outside :) 08:37 < LumberCartel> wumpus: Sorry, I was asking a genuine question -- I wasn't aware that there's a problem there. 08:39 < Sentineo> wumpus: that would be nice, but gitian build looks pretty complicated. in my todolist to try it out though. It is the best way of ensuring the code one runs. 08:39 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39 < wumpus> LumberCartel: let's say the bitcoin foundation has a checkered reputation, there's been so much drama about it. But it's off topic here, #bitcoin would be a better place to discuss. 08:40 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:40 < sipa> also, none of the people currently involved with bitcoin core development are working for the foundation anymore 08:40 < achow101> wumpus: have blockstream sign it :p 08:40 < sipa> ignoring any political drama, that on itself should be sufficient reason i think 08:41 < wumpus> sipa: that's true, though maybe it's not necessary for anyone to work for them to act as a neutral trusted signee, except that they're not that :) 08:41 < LumberCartel> wumpus: Okay, thanks. If there is a need to start a company, or a non-profit society, I can certainly help with getting that started from here in Canada as I'm quite familiar with the process here. I'm willing to help with that even if it's an enttity whose sole purpose is to satisfy OS code 08:42 < wumpus> achow101: I was waiting for that one 08:42 < sipa> wumpus: fair 08:42 < LumberCartel> I'll just leave it at that. 08:42 < LumberCartel> signing requirements. 08:43 < wumpus> LumberCartel: thanks! 08:44 < wumpus> LumberCartel: yes, some kind of very formal setup would be best - an organization whose sole purpose is to sign the executables when a certain gitian builder threhold is reached 08:44 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:44 < LumberCartel> wumpus: You're welcome. Those kinds of conditions can be specified in the mandate before the organization is started. 08:45 < LumberCartel> wumpus: There would be a need for an AGM with an election for who are the directors. I can even help with setting this up without having to be a director myself -- the elected directors would have the control. 08:46 < LumberCartel> wumpus: The fees aren't very high, and I could find out what's all required if people here are in agreement with going ahead with this. 08:47 -!- goatpig [56f75683@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.247.86.131] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:49 < LumberCartel> wumpus: Just in case you want to know how to contact me (e.g., while I'm not on IRC), my real name is Randolf and my details are on my web site, here: https://www.randolfrichardson.com/contact/ 08:51 -!- Emcy_ [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57 < wxss> wumpus: maybe nChain/CSW could sign the executables with the private key of the genesis block, that should solve a lot of problems at once 08:58 < wumpus> LumberCartel: okay! 08:59 < wumpus> wxss: lol, yes but it would be only verifyiable on laptops that he provides :p 09:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:15 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:16 -!- LumberCartel [~randolf@96.53.47.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:21 -!- btcdrak [uid234579@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xnpidryxcddufwrq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:31 -!- Aaronvan_ is now known as AaronvanW 09:42 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42 < jl2012> wumpus: "factory sealed laptop!" 09:44 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:49 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:49 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:53 -!- Blackcode [~Daniel@197.234.219.35] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:54 < Blackcode> Hi friends, watch this video on youtube, I just tried it and it's really perfect. https://youtu.be/UEm0f1PihWo Send me a message in private, and I send you the password and activation key for free. 09:56 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:56 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@39.109.214.22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 -!- Danini_ [c5eadb23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.234.219.35] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:00 < Danini_> Hi friends, watch this video on youtube, I just tried it and it's really perfect. https://youtu.be/UEm0f1PihWo Send me a message in private, and I send you the password and activation key for free. 10:00 -!- Danini_ [c5eadb23@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.234.219.35] has quit [Client Quit] 10:01 -!- Blackcode [~Daniel@197.234.219.35] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02 -!- quantbot [~quantbot@ool-2f125d98.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:07 -!- quantbot [~quantbot@ool-2f125d98.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:10 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-55-173.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:10 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-55-173.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:10 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:15 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:25 < promag> omg ^ 10:29 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:34 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:36 -!- analiser [~analiser@190.79.220.108] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:39 < analiser> if bitcoin-cli move and accounts are deprecated how should i identify users ? only by address? 10:41 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45 -!- LumberCartel [~randolf@96.53.47.42] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:46 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:59 < wumpus> analiser: you can still use labels, there are just no balances anymore 11:00 < wumpus> but a label can still mark a group of addresses, say, the receiving addresses of a user 11:00 < analiser> cool i will read about it 11:00 < analiser> tk is hard find the right way to off-block-chain transaction 11:00 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@39.109.214.22] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:01 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pxmbafsxmjvtfvdm] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:04 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:05 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@169.229.22.250] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:05 < dongcarl> w/re #9195, would it make sense to write out a BNF/EBNF representation of the RPC-console language for documentation? (starting with single RPC commands first then describing things that are in #7783 (nested commands and simple value queries))? 11:05 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9195 | Debug console needs a little documentation on usage · Issue #9195 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:05 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7783 | [Qt] RPC-Console: support nested commands and simple value queries by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #7783 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:05 -!- xinxi [~xinxi@39.109.214.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:10 -!- analiser [~analiser@190.79.220.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10 -!- analiser [~analiser@190.79.220.108] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:13 < wumpus> dongcarl: yes, something like that could probably be helpful 11:15 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:17 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:20 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:21 < analiser> wumpus, bitcoin-cli getnewaddress "test" this you mean by labels? 11:28 -!- quantbot [~quantbot@ool-2f125d98.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:31 < dongcarl> wumpus: would it make more sense to write a YACC file or a BNF/EBNF representation? I think perhaps more value would be added if the representation could be used in parsing/validating/etc. 11:32 -!- quantbot [~quantbot@ool-2f125d98.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:46 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:55 -!- lightningbot [~supybot@2400:8901::f03c:91ff:febb:bbc1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:55 < wumpus> dongcarl: really any kind of documentation in the debug console would be nice, but I'm not sure that would be understandable for many users 11:55 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:56 < wumpus> dongcarl: what I mean in the issue is just a small manual page or so, that explains how to use the nested commands, it doesn't need to be a formal, fully detailed description of the entire system 11:56 < wumpus> analiser: yes 11:56 -!- roasbeef_ [~root@104.131.26.124] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:57 -!- lightningbot [~supybot@2400:8901::f03c:91ff:febb:bbc1] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:00 -!- dagurval_ [dagurval@hildring.pvv.ntnu.no] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:00 -!- lesderid_ [~lesderid@2a03:b0c0:1:d0::2a5:4002] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:00 -!- lysobit_ [~musalbas@2001:bc8:30c2:ff00::] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:02 -!- Apocalyptic_ [~Apocalypt@unaffiliated/apocalyptic] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:03 < analiser> should we still use (bitcoin-cli move "label1" "label2" amount) to move off-chain funds between labels? 12:03 < analiser> just ask because seems deprecated 12:09 -!- ensign_ [~ensign@2001:41d0:8:d711::1] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:09 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@169.229.22.250] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:11 -!- Apocalyptic_ is now known as Apocalyptic 12:11 -!- lysobit_ is now known as musalbas 12:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: karelb 12:12 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12 < wumpus> no, labels don't contain funds 12:12 < wumpus> they are just a tag to group one or more addresses 12:12 < analiser> work great on v13 12:12 -!- roasbeef_ is now known as roasbeef 12:13 < analiser> i dont disturb you guys anymore tk for your time i will try find more documentation 12:14 < wumpus> it works on 0.13 because 0.13 (and 0.15) still have the account system. But that's going away, there is no concept of 'off chain funds' or balances anymore. 12:14 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:14 < analiser> where i can find documentation because im working on site and this is critical 12:16 < analiser> about sysmbolic moving funds between labels 12:16 < wumpus> labels *have no funds* 12:16 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:17 < wumpus> for the last time, they are just a convenient tag for addresses, they are not accounts and do not have balances 12:17 < analiser> i know but address inside labels yes 12:30 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:33 -!- Guest21 [~textual@qr148.plus.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:45 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has 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