--- Day changed Fri Dec 01 2017 00:06 < midnightmagic> kallewoof: I solved that by modifying the gitian tqrget config to add the hostname to the internal /etc/hosts file; originally I solved it by manually modifying the base image. 00:08 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:11 -!- warxhead [warxhead@c-73-243-180-191.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:21 < kallewoof> midnightmagic: Nice, that got rid of the first line, but the other two lines remain (and I get thrown into a shell as root on the LXC side).. 00:22 < kallewoof> If I ^D, I get a bunch of "unknown user: ubuntu" errors when it tries to continue doing stuff. 00:28 < midnightmagic> does yout bootstrap-fixup not do an adduser for you? 00:30 < kallewoof> It's not being executed, because of the above errors, I suspect. 00:33 < kallewoof> I tried copying it into the base VM and then running it as a script from inside. That sorta worked, but "initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" (not sure if that is bad news or can be ignored), then stuff, and then it fails again on the "Preparing build environment" part (basically, it fails whenever a "<" is used to feed a script 00:33 < kallewoof> into it). 00:33 < kallewoof> In this case, the "system! "on-target setarch #{@arches[arch]} bash < target-bin/init-build.sh"" part in gbuild 00:44 < kallewoof> I think an easy fix for me is to just copy target-bin into the image after copying it. Not sure why <'ing doesn't work tho. :/ 00:46 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:50 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.123.9.170] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:54 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:54 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:57 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:58 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:59 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@2601:8c:c003:9f16:b501:a0b0:4f:b5a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:00 -!- unholymachine [~quassel@c-69-248-123-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:02 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:04 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@67.215.14.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:04 < kallewoof> I got to the copy-to-target part, which hangs indefinitely on "tar -C `dirname "$1"` -cf - `basename "$1"` | sudo $LXC_EXECUTE -n gitian -f var/lxc.config -- sudo -i -u $TUSER tar -C "$2" -xf -". I suspect the pipe is not functional just like the <, but I could be wrong. 01:17 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:17 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:22 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:23 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:26 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:30 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:33 -!- booyah_ is now known as booyah 01:33 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36 -!- Sinclair6 [~sinclair6@108-75-18-87.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:39 -!- daedal [~daedal@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:42 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ecefnwzmykszfbuy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:45 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37.247.1.221] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:46 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:48 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:51 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:58 -!- jouke [~jouke@a80-100-203-151.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:02 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:07 -!- jouke [~jouke@unaffiliated/komkommer] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:20 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:30 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37.247.1.221] has quit [] 02:46 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbgmyjkxesicsqct] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:56 -!- daedal [~daedal@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:57 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:07 -!- Aaronvan_ is now known as AaronvanW 03:07 -!- qqq [556ba23d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.107.162.61] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:08 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:08 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:10 -!- qqq [556ba23d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.107.162.61] has quit [Client Quit] 03:27 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:31 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:39 -!- wxss [~user@162.219.176.19] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:11 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18 < wumpus> don't think Vision is still here but: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11809 should fix his issue 04:38 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:47 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:52 -!- wxss [~user@162.219.176.19] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:53 -!- wxss [~user@162.219.176.19] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:54 -!- wxss [~user@162.219.176.19] has quit [Client Quit] 04:55 -!- wxss [~user@109.236.94.21] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:56 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbgmyjkxesicsqct] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:03 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:06 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:11 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@CPE-101-181-109-10.lnse5.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - 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It looks like miners are no longer mining SegWit transactions on testnet. See my example in #bitcoin. 07:33 < Provoostenator> (well, much less, they do get mined eventually) 07:33 < wumpus> testnet mining seems a continuing issue 07:34 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34 < Provoostenator> I can't go in there with my laptop CPU and mine it myself I presume? 07:34 < instagibbs> people point ASICs at it, so no 07:35 < Provoostenator> Ethereum created a consortium testnet out of desperation, which seems like a pretty bad solution. 07:35 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:35 < Provoostenator> Would it be hard to spin up smaller testnets amongst "friends"? 07:36 < instagibbs> you may be interested in #8994 07:36 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8994 | Testchains: Introduce custom chain whose constructor... by jtimon · Pull Request #8994 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 07:37 < instagibbs> for segwit itself something like 4 new testnets were created(segnet) 07:37 < Provoostenator> instagibbs: thanks 07:37 -!- ula [~ula@b2b-78-94-11-194.unitymedia.biz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:38 -!- DvdKhl [~Arokh@ip-37-201-211-111.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:38 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:47 < Provoostenator> The Github issues and pull requests form an infinitely deep and complex rabbit hole; fascinating :-) 07:47 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:47 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47 < Provoostenator> "There's a PR for that" might make a good meme. 07:49 < instagibbs> The best one is where there is a PR that's been revived by 2+ people.... thar be dragons 07:51 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:52 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:54 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 -!- checksauce [~checksauc@182.232.101.124] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:00 < Provoostenator> Would it make sense to tweak the PoW algorithm on testnet so it can't (easily) be ASIC mined? Maybe that would keep the difficulty at somewhat manageable levels, where more people can step in and mine SegWit and (experimental) non-standard transactions. 08:02 < Provoostenator> Maybe now is a bad time with heated emotions and such, it could be taken the wrong way. DIY testnets like in the above PR is safer. 08:03 < wumpus> there was some talk of a testnet with signed blocks instead of mining at some point, as mining is always a problem with regard to incentives, but it's pretty annoying to implement and touches consensus code 08:03 < Provoostenator> And I suppose any code supporting such PoW change on testnet would cause maintenance headaches. 08:04 < wumpus> there's no need for PoW at all on testnet, unless for testing miners I guess 08:04 < wumpus> and in that case using a different one is useless 08:05 < Provoostenator> Hardcode the difficulty at 0 and add a consensus rule for now more than 1 block per minute? 08:05 < Provoostenator> I suppose that would be a DDOS vector. 08:06 < wumpus> but yes I think DIY/private testnets are the best solution usually, most testing scenarios don't really want all the noise around 08:07 < Provoostenator> The noise helps you catch unexpected stuff though. 08:08 < Provoostenator> And having frequent reorgs on testnet would be nice too for testing robustness. 08:08 < wumpus> that's what we have already, most requests are for a more reliable testnet 08:09 < Provoostenator> Right, maybe we need a seperate calmnet and wildnet. 08:12 < Provoostenator> I used to just test everything on mainnet when fees were a bit lower (still works if you use the minimum relay fee and spend unconfirmed txs). 08:21 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:21 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:22 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:22 < mlz> devs, current testnet blockheight: 1251999, could we reset testnet or redesign it all together that LN testers don't have to wait for a segwit miner to come along? 08:22 < wumpus> indeed, testing on mainnet is possible, though that's bad practice to recommend to anyone, much foot-shooting potential 08:28 < wumpus> mlz: yes, testnet seems broken at the moment, and no one seems to be able to spare miners to point at it :/ 08:29 < mlz> wumpus, is it possible to make it CPU mining? i can help and so can many others 08:31 -!- checksauce [~checksauc@182.232.101.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:33 -!- str4d [~str4d@183.191.6.51.dyn.plus.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:34 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:35 < wumpus> one idea that has been proposed is to do a testnet with signed blocks, e.g. wumpus signs a block every 10 minutes. Mining, of whatever kind, will always introduce these kind of issues. 08:35 < wumpus> it's not that sha256 is not CPU minable, just that someone is mining and pushing up difficulty w/ inconvenient settings or version 08:37 < wumpus> just two year ago I CPU-mined quite a few blocks on testnet, while no one else was pointing miners at it 08:38 < wumpus> anyhow for a reliable testnet it's probably best to have a fixed set of rules, distributed mining competition doesn't really help 08:38 -!- checksauce [~checksauc@96.30.100.35] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:46 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has quit [Quit: Laters] 08:47 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:49 -!- checksauce [~checksauc@96.30.100.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50 -!- riko [5541f459@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.65.244.89] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:51 < wumpus> as mentioned before it'd be good to try to move #8994 forward 08:51 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8994 | Testchains: Introduce custom chain whose constructor... by jtimon · Pull Request #8994 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 08:55 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58 -!- Chad54Kulas [~Chad54Kul@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:01 < Varunram> Provoostenator: The difficulty of testnet has been down recently, could give it a shot 09:04 < Provoostenator> Varunram: I suppose I can try it for a day. Which begs the question how: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/51169/how-can-i-solo-mine-using-bitcoin-core 09:04 < Provoostenator> (feel free to answer in #bitcoin instead) 09:05 < Varunram> (yeah) 09:21 -!- kabaum [~kalle@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22 -!- kabaum [~kalle@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:23 -!- DigitalDank [DigitalDan@ip72-207-116-245.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 09:25 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 09:25 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:27 < Provoostenator> Is there a way to get `make cov` to produce an lcov file rather than HTML? 09:28 < Provoostenator> (happy to tweak Makefile.am, but no idea how) 09:34 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:40 -!- Dizzle [~dizzle@108.171.182.16] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:42 -!- esotericnonsense [~esotericn@unaffiliated/esotericnonsense] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:43 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:46 -!- Randolf [~randolf@S0106c8fb26572f40.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:50 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:52 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:55 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:58 < phantomcircuit> wumpus, ye but lots of miners use testnet to test 09:59 < phantomcircuit> about the only people who do really 10:00 < BlueMatt> nah, the ln folks are consistently pissed that testnet sucks 10:00 < BlueMatt> so they use it 10:00 -!- timothy [tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:02 < phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, heh 10:04 < Provoostenator> I'm getting a second hand Block Erupter USB on Sunday, we'll see if that helps. 10:04 < BlueMatt> lol 10:04 < Varunram> for mining segwit txs on testnet? 10:05 < Provoostenator> Yes, as the guy in Armageddon said: this is how we fix things in Russian space station :-) 10:06 < Varunram> lol 10:10 -!- dqx [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10 < adiabat> BlueMatt: I use testnet3 all the time, it's a little weird but oh well 10:10 < adiabat> maybe the biggest issue is that you'll have miners show up who don't run segwit and mine for days where no segwit txs can be confirmed 10:10 -!- dqx [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:11 < gmaxwell> need some hashpower there that mines segwit invalid blocks. 10:12 < adiabat> the messiness of testnet3 is something of a feature though; found some reorg bug in my code the other day 10:12 -!- dqx [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:13 -!- dqx_ [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:13 < adiabat> though it's specific to the testnet difficulty reduction, so maybe actually not that great a feature :) 10:13 < Varunram> adaibat: further adding to BlueMatt's assertion that ln folks use testnet grudgingly 10:13 < Varunram> adiabat* 10:14 < adiabat> I mean, it's a mess, but at the same time it allows to test weird edge cases 10:15 < adiabat> for example, I have code to checkpoint SPV headers, which is only there because testnet has over 100MB of headers 10:15 < Varunram> nice e.g. lol 10:16 < BlueMatt> heh, there's been persistent discussion of resetting testnet to bump min diff to limit the insane header volume issue 10:17 < adiabat> if anything, making testnet3 more congested may help, as it would allow fee pressure and testing different fees, RBF, etc 10:17 < BlueMatt> heh, well someone can write a bot to do that..... 10:17 < BlueMatt> spam testnet! 10:17 < adiabat> yeah the min diff thing is weird, could definitely do without that 10:18 < adiabat> I don't know the etiquette on that 10:18 < adiabat> I spammed it a bit last year, and made those 3.7MB blocks 10:18 < adiabat> wouldn't be hard to spam more, but figured people might get annoyed at a 200GB testnet 10:19 < Varunram> people would quit it altogether 10:19 < phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, ye testnet probbaly needs a reset 10:19 < phantomcircuit> i mean 10:19 < phantomcircuit> pretty sure im still 90% of testnet by bytes 10:20 < adiabat> I may be a couple % 10:32 -!- ryan01010 [b5314d40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.181.49.77.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:36 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:43 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 10:46 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:49 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-234-196.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:49 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-234-196.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:49 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:52 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:07 -!- ula [~ula@b2b-78-94-11-194.unitymedia.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:10 -!- ula [~ula@b2b-78-94-11-194.unitymedia.biz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:11 -!- ekrion [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:14 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:19 -!- jonatan_ [5e1675e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.22.117.229] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:20 -!- jonatan_ [5e1675e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.22.117.229] has quit [Client Quit] 11:24 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:25 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:27 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:28 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:31 < Provoostenator> Rather than spamming, why not drastically decrease the block size? 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Can someone explain why the definitions in test_bitcoin_main.cpp don't conflict with the ones in init.cpp? 16:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:11 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:12 -!- Krellan [~krellan@2601:640:4000:ab47:3d5a:8987:ff5d:4abc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:14 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:31 -!- wxss [~user@109.236.94.21] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:33 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vgzeaoytvyaqvdcr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:39 < luke-jr> jimpo: likely they're never linked together.. test_bitcoin_main would be linked into test_bitcoin, and init.cpp into bitcoind/bitcoin-qt 16:45 -!- dqx [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:50 -!- Cooper_ [808a4166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.138.65.102] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:50 < Cooper_> Hey y'all. 16:50 -!- dqx [~dqx@unaffiliated/dqx] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:51 -!- jb55 [~jb55@208.98.200.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:52 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:56 -!- roadcrap [~roadcrypt@unaffiliated/roadcrap] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56 -!- roadcrap [~roadcrypt@unaffiliated/roadcrap] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 16:57 < jimpo> luke-jr: That makes sense conceptually, but I don't understand make tools well enough to understand why. From what is looks like here, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/Makefile.test.include#L105, the test is linked against the LIBBITCOIN_SERVER sources, which includes init.cpp. 17:00 -!- Cooper_ [808a4166@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.138.65.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05 -!- helo [~helo@unaffiliated/helo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07 -!- DvdKhl [~Arokh@ip-37-201-211-111.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:07 -!- kurito [~kurito@201.208.41.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ecefnwzmykszfbuy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:12 -!- helo [~helo@unaffiliated/helo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:15 -!- a___ [31ffc442@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.255.196.66] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:18 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 17:20 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:32 -!- jb55 [~jb55@72.143.223.165] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:42 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:43 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:48 -!- Pasha [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:51 -!- jb55 [~jb55@72.143.223.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:51 -!- Pasha is now known as Cory 17:56 < jimpo> I figured it out. I added a definition of a new global to init.cpp and didn't add to test/test_bitcoin_main.cpp, which forced init.cpp to get linked and caused the conflict. Feels a little brittle to me, but it's easy to work around. 18:01 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08 -!- murat19 [68a6e3eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.166.227.235] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:09 -!- murat19 [68a6e3eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.166.227.235] has quit [Client Quit] 18:11 -!- andrelam [~andrelam@179.223.105.169] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:16 -!- andrelam [~andrelam@179.223.105.169] has quit [Client Quit] 18:17 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:23 -!- geezas [uid253218@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpkfwfgruiunouhg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:23 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:26 -!- Krellan 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23:07 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:07 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:11 -!- roadcrap [~roadcrypt@unaffiliated/roadcrap] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:13 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:13 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:24 -!- detire [~detire@unaffiliated/detire] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:35 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:38 -!- checksauce [~checksauc@183.89.190.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 < wumpus> right, to be clear I certainly think the current testnet should stay, to test miners and as a 'wildtestnet'. If anything more reliable is introduced it should not replace it but be a choice. 23:44 < Randolf> That seems reasonable. 23:49 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev