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01:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f0295becbf3e...216f9a42e689
01:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4c85517 Alex Vear: Add NetBSD build instruction links
01:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ee5e896 Alex Vear: Organise Linux build instructions to be categorised by distro
01:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 216f9a4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12306: Docs: Improvements to UNIX documentation...
01:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12306: Docs: Improvements to UNIX documentation (master...fix-docs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12306
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02:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12308: contrib: Add support for out-of-tree builds in gen-manpages.sh (master...2018_01_genmanpages_outoftree) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12308
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03:28 < michagogo> Oh, good, it worked.
03:28 < michagogo> Don’t know if it was rebooting the VM, updating vbox, rebooting the host, or some combination
03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12309: doc: Explain how to update chainTxData in release process (master...2018_01_release_process_chaintxstats) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12309
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03:50 < wumpus> ah yes VMs, aren't they delightful, combining the flakyness of hardware with the labyrinthine complexity of software
03:51 < michagogo> Uh, WTF? Build-windows.md has instructions that I’m pretty sure will completely hose any Xenial system
03:51 < michagogo> Namely, adding the apt repo for a newer release
03:52 < wumpus> unfortunately there is no way to cross-build to windows from xenial otherwise
03:52 < michagogo> Maybe there’s a way to just get the new versions of the relevant packages, I don’t know
03:52 < wumpus> the mingw-gcc in that ubuntu release is hosed. THere used to be a warning to simply not do that, but to some people that wasn't good enough...
03:53 < michagogo> But those instructions will trash the system
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03:53 < michagogo> They tell you to apt-get upgrade. With the wrong repos.
03:54 < michagogo> wumpus: yeah, I know about that issue
03:54 < wumpus> maybe they'd rather break their system than simply admit something is not possible and use a different release
03:54 < michagogo> Maybe
03:54 < michagogo> But the problem is that we’re telling people to do that
03:54 < wumpus> I mean it's windows users, they're doing this in a sandbox that can be nuked and re-instated with one button push
03:54 < michagogo> With a little footnote saying “this might cause issues”
03:55 < wumpus> also they're probably not doing anything else in these VMs than building bitcoin
03:55 < michagogo> Rather than “this is guaranteed to completely break the system”
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03:55 < wumpus> anyhow, feel free to add proper warnings to the document, I've given up on that
03:55 < wumpus> it's not that I didn't mention that in reviews but who listens to me, maybe they listen to you
03:56 < michagogo> Is there a way to safely get just the newer compiler packages?
03:56 < michagogo> Some ppa, backports, something like that?
03:58 < wumpus> you could build your own toolchain, I'm partial to crosstool-ng myself as it comes with a nice menu configuration tool
04:00 < wumpus> you need some patience but at least you can configure anything you'd ever wanted (and not wanted) to configure about the toolchain, and you're not bound to a certain version of binutils, gcc, libc, etc, that happens to come with your distro
04:01 < wumpus> I use this for ARM boards all the time as ubuntu's default cross compilers only target a specific sw/hw combo, but i think it can do mingw-something as well.
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04:06 < wumpus> of course for a guide it's much easier to just say 'use ubunu 16.10 or higher', but I digress, that's what we already tried...
04:07 < wumpus> at least we'll hopefully have 18.04 soon so there's a new LTS that can (hopefully) build working windows executables
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04:30 < michagogo> Yeah
04:31 < michagogo> Btw, someone in #ubuntu pointed out that zesty is EOL...
04:31 < michagogo> So even those instructions won’t work
04:31 < michagogo> I wonder how much trouble it would be to get mingw backported
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04:32 < anil_> hello
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04:32 < michagogo> Hi.     
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04:33 < anil_1524> What is the easiest way to install the Berkeley DB dependencies on Debian Stretch?
04:34 < wumpus> contrib/install_db4.sh
04:35 < wumpus> michagogo: just use 17.10 then...
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04:36 < wumpus> it will be EOL july 2018, but by that time you can upgrade to 18.04
04:36 < anil_1524> wumpus: thanks
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04:38 < wumpus> I've heard of people here using the 18.04 pre-release dailies but that's really living on the edge
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04:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #10975: [script] Return early if no valid opcodes found in CountWitnessSigOps(...) (master...return-early-in-CountWitnessSigOps) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10975
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05:09 < provoostenator> I'm one of those people living on the edge with 18.04 pre-release. I sometimes fall off the edge :-)
05:10 < provoostenator> (in a VM, that I don't really need)
05:10 < wumpus> well someone needs to do the testing :)
05:11 < provoostenator> Oh and with production c-lightning :-)
05:11 < wumpus> the danger of succesfully discouraging people from using pre-release software is that the released software will be less well-tested and thus increases risk for the rest.
05:11 < wumpus> this is, FWIW, why I'm not super enthusiastic about #12300
05:12 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12300 | [Build] Adding --enable-mainnet configuration option for running mainnet by jeffrade · Pull Request #12300 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
05:13 < wumpus> yes let's not get started about production c-lighting :)
05:13 < provoostenator> That PR does seem a bit pedantic. Anyone who compiles from source should know what they're doing. But adding a flag isn't a show-stopper either.
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05:15 < wumpus> no, it's not, though having experience from having to type --with-incompatible-bdb 20 times a day (okay, overstating a bit) do we want another flag we always need :-)
05:15 < provoostenator> What would be more useful for me is being able to have testnet=1 in bitcoin.conf and then launch with -mainnet, because I do make that mistake quite often on my dev account.
05:16 < wumpus> I think the long-term idea is to have a -network=<bla> or -chain=<bla> instead of separate options for testnet, mainnet, regtest
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05:16 < wumpus> this resolves the case of conflicting options while specifying multiple
05:17 < provoostenator> I also want to be able to configure them differently, I believe there's a PR for that, e.g. I don't care about pruning testnet.
05:17 < wumpus> I mean if you specify -regtest -testnet -mainnet who is the code to know what you really want?
05:17 < provoostenator> That should be an error. Generally commandline flags override options in a config file, right?
05:17 < wumpus> it *is* an error
05:18 < wumpus> (at least specifying -regtest and -testnet at the same time)
05:18 < provoostenator> At least that's how -changetype behave now
05:18 < wumpus> but with -chain=... you could use simple override and it would simply work without having to special case them
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05:18 < provoostenator> Yes, I agree -chain=testnet is more sensible than -testnet=1
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05:19 < Sentineo> +1 on that :) I remember I was confused the first time I saw it
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05:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rutkov opened pull request #12311:  build: bump version to 0.15.0 (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12311
05:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #12311:  build: bump version to 0.15.0 (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12311
05:22 < wumpus> bump version to 0.15.0? have I traveled back in time?
05:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/216f9a42e689...895fbd768f0c
05:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7f968ae Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Explain how to update chainTxData in release process...
05:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 895fbd7 MarcoFalke: Merge #12309: doc: Explain how to update chainTxData in release process...
05:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12309: doc: Explain how to update chainTxData in release process (master...2018_01_release_process_chaintxstats) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12309
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06:28 < promag> jamesob: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12305/files#diff-321303fddcf725df060981d626a05df9R38 paths or path?
06:30 < jamesob> promag: I'm fine with either
06:30 < cfields> jonasschnelli: ping
06:30 < promag> jamesob: remove https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12305/files#diff-3b23ce4d86903a432863cfb3a1f1e547R10?
06:31 < jamesob> promag: but the fs namespace is used in that file?
06:33 < promag> jamesob: it is, but it's an unnecessary change in your PR. I mean, there are tons of other "missing" includes I guess
06:34 < promag> jamesob: if by any chance you have to amend, consider removing it
06:35 < jamesob> promag: will do, thanks. If others have similar feelings I'm happy to - just hard to tell when to make small improvements. I figured since this is a fairly low-risk, small change that an addition like that couldn't hurt, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
06:36 < jamesob> s/change/changeset
06:39 < promag> jamesob: I know that feeling. Usually I do secondary changes "near" the primary changes. I avoid unrelated changes (even simple changes). Maybe submit them in other pulls..
06:40 < jamesob> promag: just don't want to become the guy who opens PRs for #include changes (more than I already am ;)
06:41 < promag> jamesob: right, just don't do it then :) unless you have to
06:41 < arubi> seems that dumpwallet puts base58 addresses in the dump when the wallet is set to bech32 (getnewaddress returns bech32)
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06:58 < DDDev> Hi there, guys!
06:59 < DDDev> Have you ever seen deleted transaction in the blockchain?
07:00 < DDDev> For instance, you sent 10BTC and your transaction was unconfirmed for a long period of time. And after that the transaction became removed from the blockchain
07:02 < AndyS2> It's not even on the blockchain if it is unconfirmed. It's just in the mempool to be potentially added. There's #bitcoin-dev for more general development questions, btw. This channel is more so for development of Bitcoin Core (an implementation of the protocol).
07:05 < DDDev> Thank you, AndyS2
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07:36 < provoostenator> I just noticed this by chance: #12312
07:36 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12312 | QT ignores -changetype=bech32 when coin control features are enabled · Issue #12312 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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08:19 < arubi> does making dumpwallet use bech32 for the addresses if addresstype is bech32 or p2sh-segwit and base58 if it's legacy sound ok?
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08:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Schallabeer opened pull request #12313: 0.16 (master...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12313
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08:40 < promag> tag #12312 as bug?
08:40 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12312 | QT ignores -changetype=bech32 when coin control features are enabled · Issue #12312 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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09:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fivepiece opened pull request #12315: Bech32 addresses in dumpwallet (master...dumpwallet-bech32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12315
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10:17 < gmaxwell> ugh. I really dislike 12300.
10:18 < gmaxwell> If we want to reduce screw up risk we should make the github default branch a release branch; not boobytrap the prerelease software.
10:21 < gmaxwell> for the original ask, a developer that doesn't want to mess up their own wallets, could be just as well addressed with a --disable-mainnet configure option that they could setup to normally use.
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10:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] thijstriemstra opened pull request #12316: Upgrade depends/build system to use Qt 5.9.4 (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12316
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10:44 < jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: agree
10:46 < gmaxwell> achow101: so your belief is that for some input conditions the signer is producing an invalid signature?
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10:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #12317: Document method for reviewers to verify chainTxData (master...verify_chainTxData) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12317
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10:52 < cfields> gmaxwell / jonasschnelli: I agree as well. If anything, I think that's kinda dangerous as downstreams can just quietly remove the ifdef, and users think they're shielded from mainnet
10:54 < cfields> i can see the need for some kind of switch like that, but I'd rather do it in the appropriate place. ie If exposing the wallet to mainnet is scary, then add something there.
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10:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12313: 0.16 (master...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12313
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13:15 < jtimon> what is this label supposed to mean? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/labels/good%20first%20issue
13:16 < phantomcircuit> jtimon, i assume things someone can work on as their first pr
13:16 < jtimon> oh, I see, thanks
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13:45 < mryandao> are there any plans to implement compact filters for bitcoin-core?
13:46 < mryandao> to deprecate bip37 bloom filter service?
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13:50 < achow101> gmaxwell: I just screwed up BnB, that's all
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13:51 < jtimon> review begging for https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12128/files I think it's a simple to review but nice simplification (sorry for the redundancy)
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14:08 < gmaxwell> achow101: whew. what did you screw up?
14:09 < achow101> gmaxwell: amounts. I was using the effective value of the utxo when signing instead of its actual value
14:09 < gmaxwell> doh     
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14:22 < jimpo> mryandao: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12254. Could use some review if you have time. :-)
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14:24 < gmaxwell> achow101: I'm super glad you're working on BnB again.
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14:52 < mryandao> how often should I follow up on a pending PR to get it closed?
14:54 < mryandao> jimpo: cool! good to see that there'll be less spying going on eventually.
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14:59 < midnightmagic> What's BnB? :-)
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15:04 < gmaxwell> Branch and Bound.  Solvers that can construct changeless transactions.
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15:17 < midnightmagic> nice.
15:18 < midnightmagic> \o/     
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15:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #12319: Add size checking to CPubKey::IsValid, and prefer key/sig size const references (master...pubkeysize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12319
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16:05 < GitHub131> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] jonasschnelli opened pull request #1: 0.16: osx signatures for 0.16.0rc1 (0.16...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/pull/1
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17:16 < GitHub8> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] theuni closed pull request #1: 0.16: osx signatures for 0.16.0rc1 (0.16...0.16) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/pull/1
17:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fivepiece opened pull request #12321: p2wsh address in decodescript (master...decodescript-p2wsh) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12321
17:17 < meshcollider> mryandao: see #12254
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17:17 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12254 | BIP 158: Compact Block Filters for Light Clients by jimpo · Pull Request #12254 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
17:18 < meshcollider> Oh oops, I'm too late :)
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17:27 < achow101> cfields: I saw that the detached sigs were pushed, but they don't seem to be working rn
17:27 < cfields> achow101: not quite yet, still working on it
17:27 < achow101> oh, ok
17:27 < cfields> this is the first release with the new key, and the first that's not just me signing. So it's a bit kludgy
17:28 < achow101> we haven't done the mpc rsa thing yet, have we?
17:29 < cfields> no, didn't make it in time
17:29 < cfields> ok, pushed the tag. should work now
17:29 < cfields> off to find food before everything closes, bbl
17:29 < cfields> gitian builders: v0.16.0rc1 detached sigs are pushed. Please ping me if there are any issues
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20:45 < dx25> with 0.16.0rc1 on exit i'm seeing "IO Error: ...chainstate/244997.ldb: Bad file descriptor", system error while flushing: Database I/O error.  
20:45 < dx25> Does not seem to be happening with v0.15.2 or older version
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23:06 < gmaxwell> dx25: can you tell us some about your system? What OS, etc.
23:06 < gmaxwell> dx25: we believe thats a new issue, which will likely block the release until we fix it.
23:07 < gmaxwell> dx25: we've had one developer hit it but don't have a reliable reproduction yet, and maybe there is something in common between systems that have hit it which would help track it down
23:07 < gmaxwell> e.g. what OS, kernel version, etc.
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