--- Day changed Tue May 29 2018 00:08 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:09 -!- Randolf [~randolf@24.244.23.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:12 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:21 < ken2812221> achow101: I've tested your docker method and got the same binaries. Its setup is easier than Lxc's. 00:21 -!- BGL [~BGLWrK@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:23 -!- retrop99 [~retrop99@109.232.227.133] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:25 -!- Randolf [~randolf@24.244.23.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:26 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:26 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 < sipa> ken2812221, achow101: you reproduced the same 0.16.1rc1 binaries as others using docker? 00:29 < wumpus> at least all the signatures in the gitian.sigs repository match at this moment 00:30 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 < ken2812221> Yes, I built the binaries using both lxc and docker, they are the same. 00:31 -!- fanquake [~fanquake@unaffiliated/fanquake] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:32 < fanquake> ken2812221 Where is the docker method available? 00:33 < ken2812221> achow101 mentioned that on top, https://github.com/achow101/gitian-builder/tree/docker 00:34 < fanquake> ken2812221 thanks, will take a look 00:34 < wumpus> oh I had to patch gverify to use gpg2 instead of gpg to be able to verify ken2812221's signatures at all 00:34 < wumpus> gpg: using ECDSA key 0x4B79F986CBDF8736 00:34 < wumpus> gpg: BAD signature from "Chun Kuan Lee(ken2812221) " [unknown] 00:34 < wumpus> ken2812221: BAD SIGNATURE 00:34 < wumpus> the other ones check out 00:36 < wumpus> (it's a ?bad signature? this doesn't imply that your build differs) 00:37 < wumpus> ken2812221: checking the assert manually - looks like your executables do match, but you need to re-sign it 00:38 < wumpus> rm bitcoin-win-0.16-build.assert.sig && gpg2 --detach-sign bitcoin-win-0.16-build.assert or something like that 00:39 < wumpus> (but first check if verification fails there too) 00:40 < ken2812221> OK, I'll check it 00:41 < wumpus> (simply "gpg2 bitcoin-win-0.16-build.assert.gpg" in your 0.16.1rc1 directory should do it) 00:42 -!- satwo [~textual@2602:306:378a:6fb0:55b9:b64f:131:22e6] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:42 -!- Randolf [~randolf@96.53.47.42] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:44 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45 < wumpus> (I'm only insisting on the gpg2 thing because of Ubuntu 16.04 - in 18.04, gpg is gpg2 by default,thankfully...) 00:45 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:48 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:50 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:52 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:53 < wumpus> ken2812221: thanks, that fixed it 00:54 < ken2812221> Sorry, maybe I did something wrong with my hardware key before. 00:56 < wumpus> what kind of token do you use that supports ECDSA signing in hardware? 00:57 < wumpus> seems even the most recent yubikey still does only RSA 00:58 < ken2812221> ledger-nano-s 00:59 < wumpus> thanks 00:59 < wumpus> I didn't know that could be used with gpg :) 01:05 < ken2812221> Yes it can. But the client is a third party software. 01:07 < mryandao> would it be realistic to look at an api to integrate hardware wallet usage in Core? 01:08 < mryandao> *designing an api 01:09 < wumpus> though it's nistp256 not secpp256 01:09 < wumpus> ruby is easier than I thought (patches gverify to take an arbitrary verification program) https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder/pull/182 01:10 < wumpus> mryandao: to make that feasible such an API should be generic, not 'just for Core' 01:10 < wumpus> mryandao: jonasschnelli has been looking into this 01:10 < jonasschnelli> mryandao: Yes. 01:11 < jonasschnelli> BIP174 is a great basepoint... 01:11 < jonasschnelli> Though its serialization format is not optimized for HWW/MCUs 01:11 < jonasschnelli> For Core&HWW, the question is what standard we would follow... we can't use proprietary vendor specific USB communication 01:12 < jonasschnelli> Ideally it would be similar to how SSH/GPG agents work 01:12 < wumpus> it's kind of frustrating how this is different enough for standard smartcard crypto APIs that it requires something entirely new 01:12 < jonasschnelli> wumpus: Yes. Those standard didn't bothered about verification... 01:12 < wumpus> yes, definitely, there would need to be an external driver, and this standard should describe how to communicate with that 01:12 < jonasschnelli> They are happy if the key is on the card... 01:13 < jonasschnelli> Extra driver is something users dislike... thats why I once proposed the URI scheme. 01:13 < wumpus> the details, such as how communication with the device happens, is up to the vendor 01:13 < wumpus> we're not going to do low-level USB stuff in bitcoin core 01:13 < mryandao> isnt there libusb? 01:13 < jonasschnelli> Yes! 01:13 * jonasschnelli stabs mryandao 01:13 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@185.94.189.189] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:13 < wumpus> (nor link against libhid or any other nightmare abominations) 01:13 < jonasschnelli> Core has already too much dependencies... 01:14 < jonasschnelli> What we want is communicate with a "bridge-application" 01:14 < wumpus> "> Extra driver is something users dislike" is there any other realistic option?! 01:14 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15 < jonasschnelli> URI schemes would allow that an application opens "sign://" where to OS would start the application that have registered sign:// 01:15 < wumpus> smartcards, yubikeys etc also have their own driver, it's not like gpg2 includes low-level support for all of them. 01:15 < wumpus> so that's effectively a driver 01:15 < wumpus> what you are documenting is the communication protocol with it, which could use an URI, sure... 01:15 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@185.94.189.189] has quit [Client Quit] 01:16 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:16 < jonasschnelli> It would avoid a daemon and it would be portable (probably) 01:16 < wumpus> sure, it could be a process that is launched on demand, it dosn't have to be an always-on daemon 01:16 < mryandao> it wouldn't be that painful to install an agent like gpg i'd imagine 01:16 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:16 < wumpus> I also dislike things that have to run always, especially if it concerns the wallet, you want to be able to remove the device at any time anyway 01:17 < wumpus> on the other hand, to be honest, at this point I'd prefer *any* standard for HW wallets to the jungle there is now, can always optimize the details later 01:17 < mryandao> but the agent that's up 24/7 wouldnt be holding the keys no? 01:19 < wumpus> it could, but for a HSM it wouldn't hold the keys itself, at most identifiers. 01:20 < wumpus> though there could be a agent that uses, say, a CPU secure enclave instead of a real hardware wallet, that's up to the vendor 01:21 -!- drizztbsd [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:21 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:21 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:22 < mryandao> sounds like the painpoints alone warrant a workshop on integration of HSMs with Bitcoin 01:22 < wumpus> (or if, say, TPM3.0 standard would include cryptocurrency wallet support, could use the motherboard TPM module) 01:22 -!- rex4539 [~textual@2a02:587:3501:ea00:8dc5:d53f:23d:59ca] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:22 < wumpus> in any case, the wallet software shouldn't need to care about those details at all 01:23 < mryandao> i thought the community as a whole finds TPMs to be distasteful 01:27 < wumpus> smartcards, security tokens, etc are essentially pluggable TPMs 01:29 < wumpus> and in my opinion there are certainly distasteful uses of them, such as OS vendor lock-in and DRM, but this is getting off topic, I was just illustrating that there is a large range of possibilities. 01:34 < wumpus> < mryandao> sounds like the painpoints alone warrant a workshop on integration of HSMs with Bitcoin <- I agree, it's something that could use more concentrated effort 01:35 < wumpus> I've always been surprised how little the hardware wallets vendors care about this, they just carve out their little space with their own proprietary protocols and software, instead of starting some bitcoin HSM working group 01:36 < wumpus> even if you don't care about "use of Bitcoin Core as wallet" (like Trezor), it seems that other wallets would benefit from the same 01:36 < wumpus> anyhow 01:40 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:42 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:47 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:47 * sipa hopes bip174 will help 01:50 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:51 -!- drizztbsd is now known as timothy 01:57 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:4433:dd5:9ea1:1c28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:4433:dd5:9ea1:1c28] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:01 -!- BGL [fourty@75-149-171-58-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:15 * wumpus hopes so too 02:45 -!- zivl [~zivl@2601:19a:837f:e4e1:3c61:99c2:c08:a488] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:46 -!- ccdle12 [3eff661a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.255.102.26] has 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Is scrypt(n=32768, r=8, p=1) something that works on a tiny MCU (like those ones used by Trezor, Ledger, Bitbox)? 05:16 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:17 -!- decebal__ [~decebal@203-213-19-112.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:19 -!- promag [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:20 -!- harrymm [~harrymm@104.207.83.39] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:21 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:22 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:22 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@bitcoinsrv.jonasschnelli.ch] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:22 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@bitcoinsrv.jonasschnelli.ch] has quit [Changing host] 05:22 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:26 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26 -!- 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quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:59 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:00 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@226.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:01 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:03 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:07 < promag> thoughts on #13160? 06:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13160 | wallet: Unlock spent outputs by promag · Pull Request #13160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 06:12 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a315b79ad2b8...56fe3dc235a0 06:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6d714c3 Pieter Wuille: Make coincontrol use IsSolvable to determine solvability 06:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4e91820 Pieter Wuille: Make IsMine stop distinguishing solvable/unsolvable 06:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b5802a9 Pieter Wuille: Simplify IsMine logic 06:12 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:13 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:4433:dd5:9ea1:1c28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13142: Separate IsMine from solvability (master...201804_separate_ismine_solvable) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13142 06:14 -!- Krellan [~Krellan@2601:640:4000:9258:4433:dd5:9ea1:1c28] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:17 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:17 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:23 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/56fe3dc235a0...3fd0c2336a12 06:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 13c3a65 João Barbosa: Qt/Bugfix: fix handling default wallet with no name 06:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3fd0c23 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13273: Qt/Bugfix: fix handling default wallet with no name... 06:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13273: Qt/Bugfix: fix handling default wallet with no name (master...2018/05/loadwallet_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13273 06:27 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:28 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:28 < wumpus> promag: lgtm 06:29 < wumpus> promag: so I think removing spent UTXOs from the locked set automatically is a better solution than the other PR, also the code change is cleaner, but it seems not many people weigh in 06:29 < promag> right 06:30 < promag> I also think other should give feedback there 06:30 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:31 < wumpus> I disagree with the opinion in the other PR that yours is 'a breaking change', I mean this is the behavior already, the only change is that the UTXOs don't linger around forever 06:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3fd0c2336a12...70d354131379 06:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe16dd8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: net: Add option `-enablebip61` to configure sending of BIP61 notifications... 06:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 87fe292 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Mention disabling BIP61 in bips.md 06:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 70d3541 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13134: net: Add option `-enablebip61` to configure sending of BIP61 notifications... 06:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13134: net: Add option `-enablebip61` to configure sending of BIP61 notifications (master...2018_05_optional_bip61) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13134 06:35 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:42 -!- Aliencorpse [~Aliencorp@2605:a601:b024:600:6c58:3432:f4a3:2f7d] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:43 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #13339: wallet: Replace %w by wallet name in -walletnotify script (master...2018-05-walletnotify) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13339 06:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13281: test: Move linters to test/lint, add readme (master...Mf1805-qaLint) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13281 06:48 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #13340: doc: remove leftover check-doc documentation (master...move-check-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13340 06:51 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:52 < fanquake> wumpus #13340 is a trivial follow up to fix the doc nit 06:52 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13340 | doc: remove leftover check-doc documentation by fanquake · Pull Request #13340 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 06:53 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:54 -!- Aliencorpse [~Aliencorp@2605:a601:b024:600:3040:b069:94e0:e16a] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:55 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2ac6315f44a8...e08c130c25ed 06:58 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f44a0eb Jeff Frontz: Ensure gitian-build.sh uses bash... 06:58 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e08c130 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13320: Ensure gitian-build.sh uses bash... 06:59 < wumpus> fanquake: thanks! 07:01 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #13320: Ensure gitian-build.sh uses bash (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13320 07:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e08c130c25ed...3a8e3f480612 07:03 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 93843f6 fanquake: doc: remove leftover check-doc documentation 07:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3a8e3f4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13340: doc: remove leftover check-doc documentation... 07:04 < 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Now that 0.16.1rc1 is out and the high priority list is a bit shorter, can we consider adding #13058? 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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3a8e3f480612...f8a29ca823fb 11:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 59e9688 Chun Kuan Lee: Travis: Build tests on Ubuntu 18.04 with docker 11:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f8a29ca Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13215: Travis: Build tests on Ubuntu 18.04 with docker... 11:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13215: Travis: Build tests on Ubuntu 18.04 with docker (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13215 11:07 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:12 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:13 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@213.226.59.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:14 -!- promag [~promag@83.223.251.141] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:16 -!- Randolf [~randolf@96.53.47.42] has joined 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Especially memory based like scrypt 12:25 < jonasschnelli> I just tested PBKDF with 20k rounds on a Bitbox. Takes 30 seconds 12:26 < jonasschnelli> acceptable IMO for seed and recovery... but not for a device PIN KDF. 12:26 < sipa> outsourcable hardening would be nice 12:27 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 12:27 < jonasschnelli> sipa: yes. but imo that concept needs to be specified and analysed further more 12:27 -!- David82Fritsch [~David82Fr@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:28 < sipa> absolutely 12:28 < jonasschnelli> I think it's acceptable to wait 30s on a HWW during encrypted seed backup (seed with optional encryption) as well as during a wallet restore 12:29 < jonasschnelli> 30s PBKDF results in acceptable 40ms on my Intel corei7 12:30 < jonasschnelli> optional, the rounds could be flexible and make it into the seed serialization format 12:30 < jonasschnelli> wait longer == better KDF / brute force / wordlist resistance 12:44 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:51 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:54 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:59 -!- d9b4bef9 [~d9b4bef9@web501.webfaction.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:05 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:10 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16 -!- promag [~promag@bl22-247-244.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #13289: [Qt] Re-setup args after translator setup to translate help text (master...qt-help-translations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13289 13:25 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:41 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:44 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@110.140.174.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:49 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:49 -!- arowser_ [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:02 -!- retrop99 [~retrop99@109.202.107.5] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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