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00:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14549: Update README.md (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14549
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01:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ken2812221 opened pull request #14552: wallet: throw an error if user load the wallet file by different ways (master...default-wallet-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14552
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04:48 < josephnicholas_> Hello all
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06:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] merland opened pull request #14553: Fix wrong unit on hourly progress increase (master...progress-increase-per-h) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14553
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07:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #14554: qt: Remove unused `adjustedTime` parameter (master...20181023-unused-adjustedtime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14554
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08:59 < Mutter> Hi
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09:57 < promag> wumpus not around?
09:57 < ircclient> just messing with my IRC client
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09:57 < promag> kallewoof: I'd love some feedback on #14531
09:57 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14531 | Replace fs::relative call with custom GetRelativePath by promag · Pull Request #14531 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:57 < promag> :D
09:58 < promag> please replace my PR on HP with 14531
09:58 < promag> I think is more important to fix something first
09:59 < wumpus> added
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10:05 < promag> thanks
10:06 < promag> also see #12842 (2 lines change) and #14518 (small change)
10:06 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12842 | Prevent concurrent savemempool by promag · Pull Request #12842 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
10:06 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14518 | rpc: Always throw in getblockstats if -txindex is required by promag · Pull Request #14518 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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10:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jimpo opened pull request #14555: Move util files to directory (master...util-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14555
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11:27 < stevenroose> Anyone here any experience with the Travis tests? We copied them for Elements and the one with NOWALLET=1 times out consistently. Could anyone tell what the NOWALLET=1 exactly involves? 
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12:11 < jamesob> when's the last time someone proposed a "trace"-level logger that wouldn't ever be enabled for production, but might be useful during testing/debugging
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12:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #14556: qt: Fix bug #13299 (master...20181023-fix13299) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14556
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12:30 < BlueMatt> jamesob: isnt that kinda what -debug=1 means?
12:30 < BlueMatt> I mean it prints all your inbound/outbound messages...
12:40 < jamesob> yeah, suppose so - but we're missing a lot of logging around tx validation and peer treatment
12:41 < BlueMatt> fair enough, probably worth adding? Could add another debug category if its too voluminous
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13:14 < jamesob> yup, sounds good
13:14 < phantomcircuit> jamesob, there could certainly be many more log lines
13:15 < phantomcircuit> but not that even when you're not logging things the LogPrint function takes some time
13:18 < sipa> phantomcircuit: note that LogPrintf doesn't serialize its arguments when the debug category it's on is not enabled
13:19 < sipa> but the argument are evaluated
13:23 < wumpus> there's intentionally little/no debug logging around transaction validation, it would just be too spammy and confusing for users as it'd log for every transaction received from the network
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13:24 < wumpus> but yes I guess it'd work as a separate category…
13:26 < phantomcircuit> sipa, yeah it's very fast, but putting it in a tight loop would be a mistake
13:26 < gmaxwell> Anyone attempting that should be prepared to prove the change doesn't substantially lower performance when not in use.
13:29 < phantomcircuit> i wonder if checking for the category TRACE and then exiting unless compile time option was set would allow optimization out completely
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13:37 < sipa> phantomcircuit: yeah certainly
13:46 < jamesob> phantomcircuit: that's what I had in mind 
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13:47 < jamesob> TraceLogPrintf as a macro that gets expanded or not based on configure options
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13:49 < sipa> jamesob: we kindof have that, due to the templated approach that forwards the arguments
13:49 < sipa> though it would require inlining the function to guarantee the arguments aren't evaluated when needed
13:50 < luke-jr> #define LogTrace(…) if (unlikely(g_trace)) { LogPrintf(__VA_ARGS__); }
13:50 < luke-jr> maybe
13:54 < sipa> that has the risk of removing statements with side effects, though
13:55 < sipa> marking LogPrintf as __attribute__((always_inline)) where permitted is probably safer
13:55 < sipa> (or whatever the syntax is)
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14:52 < luke-jr> sipa: hopefully nobody would use these new things with side-effect stuff.. especially if it's disabled by default
14:52 < luke-jr> would always_inline actually avoid evaluating the arguments?
14:53 < sipa> sometimes, sure
14:53 < sipa> it'd enable the compiler to optimize it out when it provably has no side effectd
14:55 < luke-jr> proving no side effects can be hard for C++
14:55 < luke-jr> eg, a copy constructor might have side effects
14:56 < luke-jr> but maybe the variadic argument situation is better, dunno
14:58 < sipa> luke-jr: a c++ compiler is allowed to elide copy constructors even if they have side effects :)
14:58 < luke-jr> interesting
14:58 < sipa> https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/copy_elision
14:58  * luke-jr ponders if there's any way to abuse that for something useful
14:59 < sipa> since c++17 it's mandatory that where possible, that elision must happen
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14:59 < sipa> before, it was optional, and thus could result in different behaviour depending on the compiler's choice
15:00 < sipa> i believe it's the only exception to the rule that optimizations are only allowed when they don't change observable behavior
15:01 < gmaxwell> this sort of stuff where side effects vanish presents the same kind of risk as the assert macro with -UDEBUG.
15:01 < gmaxwell> (refering to the trace discussion, not copy constructors)
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15:02 < sipa> actually i expect that log statements have a relatively low chance of accidentally having side effects
15:03 < sipa> things like assert(OperationIsSuccessful(bla)); isn't too crazy however
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15:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c269209 John Newbery: [tests] Small fixups before deprecating generate...
15:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aab8172 John Newbery: [tests] Add generate method to TestNode...
15:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9f0295 John Newbery: [wallet] Deprecate the generate RPC method
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15:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14468: [wallet] Deprecate generate RPC method (master...deprecate_generate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14468
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15:28 < gmaxwell> sipa: do you think that log statements and asserts are really a lot different there?
15:28 < gmaxwell> LogPrint("tx: %s Valid: %d\n", tx.hash(), ProcessTx(tx)); 
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15:32 < sipa> gmaxwell: hmm, i guess i've just encountered those less
15:33 < sipa> it depends a lot on developer culture i guess
15:33 < gmaxwell> well that's /the/ assert mistake.
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16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d4d70ed Eric Scrivner: Fix listreceivedbyaddress not taking address as a string...
16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 94cf1ec MarcoFalke: Merge #14417: Fix listreceivedbyaddress not taking address as a string...
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17:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0089905 practicalswift: Add compile time checking for cs_main locks which we assert at run time
17:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5473e25 MarcoFalke: Merge #14444: Add compile time checking for cs_main locks which we assert at run time...
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