--- Log opened Tue Nov 06 00:00:13 2018
00:00 < gmaxwell> warren: thats normally what happens for bugfixes which are not totally unimportant.
00:01 < warren> How extensive will 0.17.1 be?
00:01 < wumpus> warren: yes that should happen, do you have the PR# I'll do a backport PR
00:02 < warren> wumpus: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14403
00:02 < wumpus> thanks
00:03 < gmaxwell> warren: point releases usually have a half dozen to a dozen fixes or so, depending on when they come out.
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00:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #14666: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections" (0.17...2018_11_qt_tls_crash_fix_0_17) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14666
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00:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.17: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9e87d82e7f06...b0e88b89149f
00:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 0242b5a Tim Ruffing: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections"...
00:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 b0e88b8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14666: qt: Revert "Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections" (0.17)...
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00:17 < meshcollider> that was quick :D
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00:25 < wumpus> very happy to see people caring about actually fixing bugs and not *insert a space at row 4 column 23 of doc/bla.md*
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00:27 < meshcollider> heh yep
00:27 < wumpus> luke-jr: need rebase for #14532, also other people: this PR addresses an important issue and still needs review
00:27 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14532 | Never bind INADDR_ANY by default, and warn when doing so explicitly by luke-jr · Pull Request #14532 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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00:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/825f779dc715f0f006ce0f196dc834355d2e0a5a
00:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 825f779 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for 0.17.0.1...
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00:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.17: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/1e49fe450dbb0c258776526dba3ee583461d42ff
00:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.17 1e49fe4 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Clean out release notes after 0.17.0.1...
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00:48 < warren> luke-jr: "(A warning is given if rpcallowip is specified without rpcbind, since it doesn't really make sense to do.)"  ... might it be better to change it to refuse to start bitcoind after this change? People depending on the previous wrong behavior will more quickly notice bitcoind failing to start this way.
00:49 < meshcollider> warren: it doesn't default to old behaviour though, the behaviour is still safe so they will notice if they were relying on it anyway
00:49 < meshcollider> i.e., it still won't bind to INADDR_ANY 
00:53 < warren> meshcollider: the wrong behavior was rpcallowip without rpcbind, luke-jr argues
00:53 < wumpus> I think things are ready now to start the process for a 0.17.0.2, though, I'm not convinced we should, because it only affects self-built executables on one fairly rare platform and doesn't affect the binaries nor anyone using the binaries, might be too much confusing as well as give a bad impression to do a lot of 0.x releases
00:53 < warren> Not sure if this was ever written anywhere, but I personally always understood the RPC port was never meant to be exposed to the Internet.
00:55 < warren> wumpus: I would call it rather an "currently rare but over time increasingly less so", but even then yes the static linked qt in the gitian binaries are not affected and we're better off getting 0.17.1 out the door.
00:55 < wumpus> you're right, it's never supposed to-the problem is that a lot of people were apparently accidentally exposing it to the internet, might be partially because they set rpcallowip to a local-network address then suddenly expose it to the whole world, not doing automatic binding would prevent that
00:56 < wumpus> I *wish* bitcoind had c-lightning's RPC, simply a UNIX socket that takes JSON-RPC commands, no HTTP, no binding
00:56 < meshcollider> yeah IMO this doesn't warrant a 0.17.0.2 because it doesn't affect that actual binaries
00:56 < wumpus> meshcollider: right
00:57 < gwillen> wumpus: the HTTP layer has been slightly maddening in talking to bitcoind RPC from Rust
00:57 < wumpus> gwillen: I know :(
00:57 < warren> Does c-lightning RPC work on Windows? (Why bother I know.)
00:57 < gwillen> there are currently zero reasonable HTTP clients available
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00:57 < gwillen> (for values of reasonable that include minimizing dependency bloat primarily)
00:57 < wumpus> I don't think it supports windows, another good thing about it :-)
00:58 < gwillen> well, you can take JSON-RPC commands over TCP from localhost as easily as over UNIX sockets, no HTTP required
00:59 < wumpus> I'm joking there of course; https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/12/19/af_unix-comes-to-windows/
01:00 < luke-jr> warren: It's not *entirely* nonsensical, though.
01:01 < luke-jr> gwillen: dependencies are good, not bloat
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01:02 < wumpus> not if it pulls in an apache-level huge web server just to handle a silly RPC client
01:02 < warren> luke-jr: I too am in favor of infrastructure applications with webs of dependencies blindly grabbing from other developers.
01:02 < luke-jr> wumpus: sure, but the topic was a HTTP client :P
01:02 < luke-jr> eg, libcurl
01:02 < wumpus> luke-jr: I'm just saying what the practical situation for Rust is
01:03 < warren> libcurl is rather large and has a history of security issues too.
01:03 < luke-jr> surely Rust can have bindings to reasonable C libraries?
01:03 < luke-jr> warren: everything has security issues at some point
01:03 < wumpus> using C at the network layer partially defeats the point of using RUst in the first place :-)
01:03 < luke-jr> using a common dependency at least increases the probability it gets found and fixed quickly
01:04 < wumpus> as warren says
01:04 < wumpus> libcurl is not exactly bugless either
01:04 < warren> You'd think a rust thing wanting something simple as socket communication you wouldn't want to pull in a massive library, rather you'd want to implement it in a safer language like rust, with as minimal as possible in code.
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01:12 < wumpus> though, hardening against network exploits is much more important for something like the P2P network code than *what is supposed to be* a local control socket, but that has a much bigger scope, but some people are working on writing a Rust P2P layer too
01:13 < wumpus> (dongcarl is looking at that)
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02:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/825f779dc715...024816d6cfc7
02:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5aa31f6 James O'Beirne: tests: add utility to assert node memory usage hasn't increased...
02:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 62f94d3 James O'Beirne: tests: add P2PConnection.send_raw_message
02:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d20a9fa James O'Beirne: tests: add tests for invalid P2P messages...
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02:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14522: tests: add invalid P2P message tests (master...2018-10-invalid-msgs-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14522
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02:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/024816d6cfc7...cdddd177809d
02:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bbbbb3f MarcoFalke: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all help texts at runtime
02:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cdddd17 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14658: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all rpc help texts at runtime...
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03:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14658: qa: Add test to ensure node can generate all rpc help texts at runtime (master...Mf1811-qaRpcHelpMan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14658
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03:20 < promag> bugfix #14552 lgtm
03:20 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14552 | wallet: detecting duplicate wallet by comparing the db filename. by ken2812221 · Pull Request #14552 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
03:22 < meshcollider> sipa: are you here atm? quick question about descriptors, can addr() wrap an xpub? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14491#issuecomment-436218992
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04:59 < setpill> trying to build bitcoin core in a bionic host with the gitian-build.py script, getting error `lxc-init: gitian: cmd/lxc_init.c: remove_self: 212 Invalid argument - Failed to unmount "/usr/sbin/init.lxc.static"`
04:59 < setpill> is there a known workaround for this?
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05:01 < wumpus> "if you forget to install libcap-dev before building lxc, lxc-execute is going to fail because an essential program init.lxc.static is not built"
05:02 < wumpus> I had that problem once, maybe it's this, maybe it's a different one
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05:03 < setpill> I'm not building lxc, just installing from repositories
05:04 < wumpus> in that case, they might have made that mistake, in any case no clue
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05:06 < wumpus> sooo many moving parts that can break, who's to say...
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05:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar closed pull request #14318: Relay ancestors of transactions (master...2018-09-txrelay-ancestors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14318
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06:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #14667: Add deriveaddress RPC util method (master...2018/11/deriveaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14667
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06:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cdddd177809d...880bc728b43f
06:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4fb789e Jim Posen: Extract CSipHasher to it's own file in crypto/ directory....
06:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fef5adc Jim Posen: blockfilter: Use unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter.
06:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 880bc72 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14074: Use std::unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter interface...
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06:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14074: Use std::unordered_set instead of set in blockfilter interface (master...blockfilter-unordered-set) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14074
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06:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Diving-Or-Dove-In opened pull request #14668: Update validation.cpp (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14668
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06:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag closed pull request #13501: Correctly terminate HTTP server (master...2018-06-loopexit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13501
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07:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #14670: http: Fix HTTP server shutdown (master...2018-11-httpserver) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14670
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07:06 < promag> ken2812221: this is an alternative approach, if you could test I'd be so happy :D
07:08 < jnewbery> promag: could you add an explanation of how the approach is different and why you closed 13501?
07:09 < promag> jnewbery: I will
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07:32 < promag> jnewbery: MarcoFalke: added rationale
07:33 < promag> always had the feeling it shouldn't be complicate to terminate the server 
07:34 < promag> 2 important changes: 1) call evhttp_free with event loop running  2) send connection: close header when shutdown was requested
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07:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/880bc728b43f...6af27b81572b
07:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5a05aa2 Martin Erlandsson: Add metavar to match var name in help text + Change wording for better readability
07:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6af27b8 MarcoFalke: Merge #14619: tests: Fix value display name in test_runner help text...
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07:47 < jamesob> my just-merged p2p_invalid_messages test is failing pretty consistently on travis; looking into it
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07:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14619: tests: Fix value display name in test_runner help text (master...test-runner-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14619
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07:55 < hebasto> setpill: this is known bug; https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/2536
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07:56 < promag> jamesob: cool
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08:12 < dongcarl> luke-jr: I remember you asked about Rust bootstrapping: https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc
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08:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14668: Update validation.cpp (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14668
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08:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages (master...2018-11-msgs-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14672
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10:03 < warren> dongcarl: he mentioned that earlier, it actually works now?
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10:14 < warren> dongcarl: oh good it looks like devrandom has already been trying it
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11:23 < hebasto> latest master build behaves like -disablewallet=1 always; what was changed? (linux, testnet)
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11:37 < esotericnonsense> i've been spamming this around a bit, but again for anyone that cares, my node/mempool monitoring daemon is finally open source (it wasn't really 'deployment ready' previously, took a while to wrangle it in to shape)
11:38 < esotericnonsense> https://gitlab.electronrelocation.com/esotericnonsense/bitcoin-top ; demo at https://bitcoin.electronrelocation.com
11:39 < hebasto> my bad; master build is ok
11:41 < esotericnonsense> i think that the defaults are sane; on initial setup it grabs some bytes from /dev/urandom for rpc passwords and so on (not exposed outside localhost anyway), and then I've limited remote RPC access for the proxy to a subset that I think are reasonable (there's a whitelist)
11:41 < esotericnonsense> if it had an auth gate (and probably some sort of self-sanity-check to make sure it's on TLS/SSL) more stuff like wallet functionality, full debug console etc could be exposed
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11:47 < dongcarl> warren: It doesn't like Arch Linux's OpenSSL version... Too new
11:47 < dongcarl> But it built rustc just fine
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12:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6af27b81572b...976583e10951
12:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3d305e3 James O'Beirne: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages...
12:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 976583e MarcoFalke: Merge #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages...
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12:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14672: tests: Send fewer spam messages in p2p_invalid_messages (master...2018-11-msgs-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14672
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12:59 < phantomcircuit> sdaftuar, any idea why it's not working on os x?
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13:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #14673: travis: Fail the UBSan Travis build in case of newly introduced UBSan errors (master...ubsan-tweak) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14673
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14:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/976583e10951...d864e45730be
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fced6b5 practicalswift: Add UBSan options: print_stacktrace + halt_on_error
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c292da practicalswift: Add UBSan suppressions needed to pass test suite
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4773fa8 practicalswift: Add llvm-symbolizer directory to PATH. Needed to get symbolized stack traces from the sanitizers.
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14:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14673: travis: Fail the UBSan Travis build in case of newly introduced UBSan errors (master...ubsan-tweak) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14673
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16:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rodasmith opened pull request #14674: Let systemd bitcoind write to /etc/bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14674
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19:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ken2812221 closed pull request #14655: qt: remove unused SECURE style (master...qt-unused-secure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14655
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19:11 < promag> jamesob: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/451688699
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20:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rodasmith closed pull request #14674: Let systemd bitcoind write to /etc/bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14674
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23:05 < warren> dongcarl: huzzah
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23:19 < hebasto> wumpus: MarcoFalke: ethic/testing/QA question. If one's PR (e.g., #14123) contains cherry-picked commits from my PR should I avoid ACKing such PR?
23:19 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14123 | gui: Add GUIUtil::bringToFront by promag · Pull Request #14123 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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