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02:07 < promag> wumpus: what do you think of getrpcinfo added in #14958
02:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14958 | qa: Remove race between conneting and shutdown on separate connections by promag · Pull Request #14958 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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02:28 < wumpus> I'm slightly confused who exposing all these internals is necessar
02:28 < wumpus> why*
02:28 < wumpus> all in all, the RPC tests are supposed to be mostly blackbox tests, the number of active RPC workers shouldn't really be relevant, only the behavior
02:32 < promag> In that case I need to wait for the other RPC
02:32 < promag> The other RPC will `waitfornewblock`
02:32 < promag> I want to `stop` the node only when the other RPC is already waiting
02:33 < wumpus> I'm not against 'getrpcinfo' in itself, to be clear
02:35 < wumpus> it's in line with other get*info; and maybe active_commands is useful for users as well
02:35 < promag> I agree with the above, but we need to have something to help test these concurrent/parallel cases
02:36 < wumpus> but I don't think it should be 'smuggled' in as part of a qa change for one test; can't you detect the command finishing some other way, on the functional test side?
02:37 < promag> nope, I tried to inspect http.Connection etc
02:37 < promag> nothing tells me the other connection is "waiting for new block"
02:38 < wumpus> true...
02:39 < promag> internally connection is accepted and then the worker picks it and executes the command in the table
02:40 < promag> the `stop` can be processed in between — which causes the test failure
02:40 < wumpus> yes
02:40 < wumpus> what about doing another RPC command in between?
02:41 < wumpus> if that finishes, you can be sure the previous one at least has been dispatched to a worker
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02:41 < promag> I did, same problem — it doesn't guarantees the `waitfornewblock` is running
02:42 < wumpus> so this is not a matter of python's threading itself, is the command even sent to the server yet?
02:42 < promag> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14958/files#diff-9ee18e00fd5f5f1444ba12e8e1378e6aR23
02:43 < promag> I can wait for that, but that's half of the fix
02:43 < wumpus> the HTTP server itself is single-threaded and asynchronous, and the workers handle commands in order
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02:44 < wumpus> then again, maybe getrpcinfo is fine, but I'd suggest adding it as a PR in itself, so people can discuss that
02:45 < wumpus> as said, maybe 'number of running commands' is useful information to users as well...
02:45 < promag> fine, this is a rare race anyway
02:46 < wumpus> in which case it's great that this can be used to avoid this particular race as well
02:47 < promag> I believe this could be avoided if the server replied with chunks
02:47 < promag> for the wait* calls, the server could reply headers or something like that
02:48 < wumpus> yes
02:48 < promag> the client would receive that and know it's in waiting state
02:48 < promag> I'll proceed with the getrpcinfo PR
02:48 < wumpus> streaming/chunked output for HTTP could be useful for various things
02:48 < promag> true
02:49 < promag> I think I can work on that once the support for dynamic wallet UI is done
02:49 < wumpus> I had a lot of trouble with that in #7759 though
02:49 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7759 | [WIP] rest: Stream entire utxo set by laanwj · Pull Request #7759 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
02:49 < wumpus> libevent's http server is strange
02:50 < promag> true, for #14670 I had to dig into it
02:50 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14670 | http: Fix HTTP server shutdown by promag · Pull Request #14670 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
02:53 < promag> regarding #14979
02:53 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14979 | [Qt] Restore < Qt5.6 compatibility for addAction by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #14979 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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02:54 < promag> one goal of CI is to prevent breaking master right? should we build with minimums in one stage of travis?
02:56 < fanquake> install qt 5.2 on the travis-qt build ?
02:56 < fanquake> Or a new build with a combination of all minimums
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02:58 < promag> it breaks more often because of Qt
02:59 < promag> fanquake: is 5.2 available on apt?
03:00 < fanquake> promag unsure, will have a look
03:01 < fanquake> I was trying to establish more minimum versions a few days ago.
03:01 < fanquake> From what I can tell we're meant to support libevent 2.0.21, (have workarounds in code for it), but can't actually compile with it?
03:02 < promag> https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/qtbase5-dev
03:02 < fanquake> *not meant to support 2.0.21, but have workarounds for it
03:02 < promag> I have that on my system
03:02 < promag> and builds fine, let me double check
03:02 < fanquake> promag maybe worth a PR then
03:04 < promag> after wall I'm already not using 2.0.21
03:04 < promag> *all
03:05 < promag> I have "rm -rf libevent-release-2.0.21-stable" on my history X)
03:05 < promag> fanquake: but it doesn't build with that libevent version? is there a report of that?
03:07 < fanquake> promag our minimum required is 2.0.22, so I wouldn't think so
03:07 < fanquake> promag my confusion came from some versioning in the http server that looked like workarounds for 2.0.21, but i'll have to double check
03:11 < wumpus> would be good to test building with minimum qt on travis, though I don't see how to concretely do this
03:11 < wumpus> we definitely don't want to build qt 5.2 as part of depends
03:13 < fanquake> we are essentially testing minimum Python for the tests now as well I think
03:14 < fanquake> wumpus think #14979 can go in
03:14 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14979 | [Qt] Restore < Qt5.6 compatibility for addAction by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #14979 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
03:14 < wumpus> for python installing a different version is more widely supported, I don't think anyone does that for gui toolkits :)
03:14 < wumpus> fanquake: great
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03:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/34241716852d...bfd7e5409720
03:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3e21b69 Jonas Schnelli: [Qt] Restore < Qt5.6 compatibility for addAction
03:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bfd7e54 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14979: [Qt] Restore < Qt5.6 compatibility for addAction...
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03:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14979: [Qt] Restore < Qt5.6 compatibility for addAction (master...2018/12/fix_addaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14979
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04:12 < lambolife> whats up guys
04:12 < lambolife> What's the latest update in Bitcoin's development so far. I'm gonna make a video about not to give Hopium but to present facts. So I;m here
04:15 < fanquake> lambolife Ask in #bitcoin instead, that'll be off-topic here.
04:15 < lambolife> got it
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04:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benthecarman opened pull request #14981: Clarifying RPC getrawtransaction's time help text (master...getrawtransaction_help_text_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14981
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05:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #14982: rpc: Add getrpcinfo command (master...2018-12-getrpcinfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14982
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06:29 < promag> anyone can add "needs release notes" label to #14573?
06:29 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14573 | qt: Add Window menu by promag · Pull Request #14573 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:30 < fanquake> promag done
06:30 < promag> ty
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07:03 < provoostenator> fanquake: we're testing minimum python since #14884 though it's not bullet-proof.
07:03 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14884 | Travis: enforce Python 3.4 support through linter by Sjors · Pull Request #14884 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:07 < provoostenator> As for minimum QT version on Travis, that seems like a good idea #14983 (and maybe we need to slightly bump the minimum even for that)
07:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14983 | One Travis instance should run minimum supported QT version · Issue #14983 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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07:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bfd7e5409720...b545a6e68965
07:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faee591 MarcoFalke: test: Fix race in mempool_accept
07:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b545a6e MarcoFalke: Merge #14964: test: Fix race in mempool_accept...
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07:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14964: test: Fix race in mempool_accept (master...Mf1812-testRaceMempoolAccept) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14964
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07:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #14984: rpc: Speedup getrawmempool when verbose=true (master...2018-12-speedup-getrawmempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14984
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07:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #14985: test: Remove thread_local from test_bitcoin (master...Mf1812-testNoThreadLocal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14985
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08:06 < ken2812221> jonasschnelli: Your nightly gitian build website seems down.
08:09 < MarcoFalke> Yeah, the server that hosts the binaries seems down. The html itself is up?
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08:51 < wumpus> hopefully I've solved the problem in #14968, seems that travis returns ENOENT when trying to bind IPv4 not EADDRNOTAVAIL as expected 
08:51 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14968 | http: Fail initialization when any bind fails by laanwj · Pull Request #14968 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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11:35 < wumpus> whoo passed
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12:41 < instagibbs> sipa TIL https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools
12:41 < instagibbs> had the answer to my subtree q
12:41 < gwillen> whaaaaat
12:42 < gwillen> how fancy
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18:14 < phantomcircuit> so it seems that with a few modifications 0.7.2 will build on a modern system and sync (albeit slowly)
18:15 < phantomcircuit> i'd like to do some kind of 0.7.2.1 release, but in a way that it's obviously not maintained
18:15 < phantomcircuit> any ideas?
18:15 < luke-jr> phantomcircuit: why not just finish v0.7.3?
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18:16 < luke-jr> v0.7.2 IIRC lacks the changes needed for the 2013 hardfork
18:16 < luke-jr> also, that sounds like a lot of work if you mean backporting all the softforks
18:17 < phantomcircuit> luke-jr, no i mean the minimal changes required to get it to build
18:17 < phantomcircuit> and to work with modern openssl
18:17 < luke-jr> ah
18:17 < luke-jr> well still, I'd do it based on 0.7.3
18:18 < luke-jr> [rc3]
18:21 < luke-jr> looks like the old stable branch repo is defunct, so I pushed the 0.7.x branch to my personal github repo
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18:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #14989: Delete JSON-RPC-interface.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14989
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18:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MeshCollider pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b545a6e68965...27f5a295d740
18:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8b9171c Ben Woosley: wallet: Initialize stop_block to nullptr in CWallet::ScanForWalletTransactions...
18:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 27f5a29 MeshCollider: Merge #14957: wallet: Initialize stop_block in CWallet::ScanForWalletTransactions...
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18:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MeshCollider closed pull request #14957: wallet: Initialize stop_block in CWallet::ScanForWalletTransactions (master...stop-block-null) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14957
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19:13 < gkrizek> I requested an invite to the Bitcoin Core Slack and haven't heard anything. How can I get an invite? Is IRC or Slack used more?
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19:24 < booyah> gkrizek: the regular meetings, are happening here on irc
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19:29 < gkrizek> booyah: Thanks! I'll probably just stick to IRC then
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19:45 < luke-jr> gkrizek: I don't think any Core devs actually use the Slack at this point
19:50 < gkrizek> luke-jr: Ha, thanks for the heads up. 
19:52 < sipa> no, it's just a community effort
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19:57 < gkrizek> Looking at the master branch in bitcoin/bitcoin, I see a lot of PRs are merged with failing tests. Why is this? Are the tests just flaky?
19:58 < sipa> the appveyor tests are experimental, and we ignore them for merging
19:59 < sipa> unfortunately we can't prevent it from marking the github PR as invalid
19:59 < sipa> *failed
20:02 < gkrizek> Understood. But it seems like Travis fails at a similar frequency...
20:10 < gkrizek> sipa: I'm new and want to start contributing. I'm just trying to understand the flow and requirements. Mainly curious how important/accurate those test suites are.
20:10 < gwillen> travis is generally pretty reliable
20:10 < gwillen> I think travis fails are typically treated as real, although I admit I saw one just today that I'm pretty sure was spurious
20:11 < sipa> there are occasionally failures due to timeouts or so
20:11 < gwillen> but in that case all but one platform showed as passing, which I think is a good clue
20:11 < gwillen> you can also inspect the output
20:12 < gwillen> so I think the answer is "the tests must actually pass, but spurious CI failures that aren't actually the result of failing tests happen sometimes"
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20:14 < gkrizek> Ok, awesome. Thanks for the explanation!
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20:16 < phantomcircuit> gwillen, travis randomly fails too
20:16 < phantomcircuit> it seems like the tests are much more expensive to run than they used to be (which is fine, but breaking)
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21:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4d454dc Hennadii Stepanov: Refactoring with QString::toNSString...
21:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e7b88ec Jonas Schnelli: Merge #14975: qt: Refactoring with QString::toNSString()...
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21:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #14975: qt: Refactoring with QString::toNSString() (master...20181216-macos-shownotification-refactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14975
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21:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #14990: qt: Use bilinear filtering for icon (master...20181218-icon-bilinear-filtering) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14990
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22:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] suprraz opened pull request #14991: Doc build macos (master...doc_build_macos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14991
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