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00:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #15565: doc: remove release note fragments (master...remove-pre-18-release-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15565
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00:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #15566: cli: replace testnet with chain and return network name as per BIP70. (master...cli-testnet-to-network) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15566
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00:57 < wumpus> btw is "analyzepsbt" really returning a formatted string for the feerate? that's awful
00:58 < wumpus> ah i see: result.pushKV("estimated_feerate", feerate.ToString());
01:00 < gwillen> wumpus: the new AnalyzePSBT after my refactor in #15508 will return it as a CFeeRate, although it will still be flattened to a string in the same way before being returned from the RPC
01:00 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15508 | Refactor analyzepsbt for use outside RPC code by gwillen · Pull Request #15508 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
01:00 < gwillen> if the RPC behavior should change I can probably sneak that in
01:01 < wumpus> gwillen: IMO it should simply be a value, the unit should be in the documentation not part of the value
01:01 < gmaxwell> elsewhere we return amounts as json numbers for maximal json library torture potential. :)
01:01 < wumpus> gmaxwell: this actually originates from a float though, so there's no decimal encoding issue
01:01 < gmaxwell> oh, though an interesting point about feerates, is that sensible feerates have more precision than bitcoin.
01:01 < fanquake> wumpus, yea currently "0.00021598 BTC/kB"
01:02 < fanquake> I agree a number makes much more sense
01:02 < wumpus> there's 0 reason to not simply return this as floating point value
01:02 < gmaxwell> PSBT serializes a float? how does it handle endianness?
01:02 < wumpus> huh, no, I don't know if PSBT doesthat
01:02 < wumpus> CFeeRate has a double IIRC
01:03 < gmaxwell> feerate should be a rational number inside PSBT itself, I hope I hope.
01:03 < wumpus> oh I'm wrong apparently?
01:03 < wumpus> return strprintf("%d.%08d %s/kB", nSatoshisPerK / COIN, nSatoshisPerK % COIN, CURRENCY_UNIT);
01:03 < sipa> PSBT doesn't store any feerate
01:03 < gmaxwell> I think estimated_feerate sounds like it's a cosmetic field, like difficulty.
01:04 < sipa> the feerate is computed as fee divided by expected serialized vsize
01:04 < gwillen> this is in analyzepsbt, which returns information for examining the status of a PSBT
01:04 < wumpus> in any case the current representation on RPC is useless, you don't want clients to be parsing units from strings
01:04 < gmaxwell> for human inspection not programmatic manipulation, so it would be okay to print it as unicode domino characters.
01:04 < wumpus> units and the semantics of values belong in the help, not in the value
01:05 < gwillen> yeah, although I think it would be reasonable to return it in satoshis per K or something, and let the RPC client decide how to fancy display it
01:05 < sipa> yeah
01:05 < wumpus> right
01:05 < sipa> how are feerates put in JSON elsewhere?
01:05 < gmaxwell> are they, anywhere else?
01:05 < fanquake> In mining I think
01:05 < gwillen> I hate and fear floating point numbers and JSON decimals
01:06 < sipa> at least in estimatefeerate i gope!
01:06 < sipa> *hope
01:06 < luke-jr> ^
01:06 < gmaxwell> hah
01:06 < fanquake> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/6b2ee268be459fbc104c054204e2992d4e241915/src/rpc/mining.cpp#L829
01:06 < wumpus> heck, even *if* you'd want to return it as a string, because you hate JSON decimals or whatever reason, don't add the unit to it
01:06 < gmaxwell> gwillen: fortunately the purpose of this value is display purposes, woe be it to anyone trying to do anything programatic with it. (because exactly rounding matters, and...)
01:07  * luke-jr wonders why estimatesmartfee is in mining
01:07 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: because chaos
01:07 < wumpus> but it makes sense to be consistent with other JSON/RPC calls
01:07 < gmaxwell> all hail chaos
01:07 < wumpus> that's a good point
01:08 < gwillen> gmaxwell: well the nice thing about giving it in integer sat/k is that that's the internal representation so there's no rounding question at all
01:08 < gmaxwell> also what is "nSatoshisPerK"? hopefully K is in units of thousands of vsize or something?
01:08 < gwillen> heh, yeah that's presumably the case, I didn't think about that
01:08 < gmaxwell> gwillen: the internal representation is a double, I believe.
01:09 < gmaxwell> (feerates and guistuff and time are the things in bitcoin that use floats)
01:09 < gwillen> negative, CFeeRate contains CAmount nSatoshisPerK, CAmount is an int64_t
01:09 < gwillen> I only know this because I just looked
01:09 < gmaxwell> ah okay, well its float in some places. :P good that it isn't in cfeerate.
01:09 < gwillen> like I said, I hate and fear floating point
01:10 < gmaxwell> Integer über alles.
01:10 < wumpus> floating point for monetary value is always a bad idea
01:10 < gwillen> yeah
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01:11 < gmaxwell> so one thing to keep in mind is that unfortuantely a bunch of websites adopted integer satoshi per byte as a fee unit, resulting in a lot of the ecosystem thinking the integer satoshi per byte is the fundimental primitive feerate unit.
01:11 < gwillen> it's interesting that it's per k not per byte, that gives more resolution than any display of fee rate I've ever seen
01:11 < gwillen> right
01:11 < gmaxwell> (and also this results in some dumb behaviors)
01:11 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: it probably should be?
01:11 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: not at all... I mean you can have a fee of 1 satoshi for a 1000 vbyte transaction...
01:12 < gmaxwell> feerate is naturally a rational number, there isn't any inherent obvious denominator but if you have to pick one, one the size of a reasonable transaction (like 1000) isn't so bad.
01:12 < luke-jr> sure, but you could also have 1 sat for a 10k tx
01:12 < luke-jr> hypothetically
01:12 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: indeed.
01:13 < gmaxwell> but there are no 1 byte transactions, so putting a one in a denominator is inherently losing about a factor of 50 in sensible precision.
01:13 < gwillen> I guess it ultimately depends on what you're using it for ... for display it doesn't matter too much
01:13 < gwillen> for other things it could matter quite a bit
01:14 < luke-jr> for display, /kB is a good size to work with
01:14 < gmaxwell> yea, I've always found per 1000 to be pretty reasonable, thats always what core's interfaces have had.
01:15 < gmaxwell> unfortuantely all these fee estimation sites sprung up around a time when the min relay fee happened to be 1s/b, I think, which is what caused it to be treated as fundimental instead of the bitcoin per/1000b the bitcoin software used in it's interfaces
01:17 < gmaxwell> in any case, I just bring up the common units so people will be mindful of the errors users might make.
01:17 < gmaxwell> like, don't have interfaces for people to enter fees that take btc/1000 vbytes and fail to guard against users entering values like 10. 
01:19 < gmaxwell> (in spite of my love of integers, I'm also not super fond of satoshi interfaces... values are usually too big, and it's perfectly reasonable for bitcoin software to work in sub-satoshi amounts even though thats the network precision)
01:20 < wumpus> i mean that's always been the problem with integer representation; it's only obvious if there is a single subdivision that makes sense, otherwise, you could end up reporting (or worse, taking) the same kinds of value in different precisions in different parts of the interface
01:20 < wumpus> *whoops, overpaid by 1000x*
01:21 < wumpus> decimal types (that have an explicit precision) exist for a good reason, it's unfortunate that language adoption of them is so bad
01:22 < gmaxwell> the sad thing here is that json itself-- the spec-- is reasonable.
01:22 < wumpus> yes
01:22 < gmaxwell> Just everything that uses it, including javascript itself makes being reasonable with it hard in practice.
01:23 < gmaxwell> I loved that time when json spirit silently snuck in a conversion to (float) ...
01:26 < sipa> just work in finite fields
01:26 < sipa> exactly representable in finite space
01:28 < wumpus> heh
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01:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6b2ee268be45...257f750cd986
01:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6e1aaff fanquake: doc: remove release note fragments
01:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 257f750 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15565: doc: remove release note fragments
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01:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15565: doc: remove release note fragments (master...remove-pre-18-release-notes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15565
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03:26 < teslasystems> Can anyone tell, where is the button for creating new wallets in Bitcoin Core? It has disappeared after 0.16.3 release
03:28 < luke-jr> teslasystems: that's a question for #bitcoin, not here
03:28 < wumpus> besides that, I don't think we've ever had a button for creating new wallets
03:29 < luke-jr> yes, I have that answer typed up waiting for him in #Bitcoin XD
03:29 < wumpus> ok thanks :D
03:29 < teslasystems> Sorry, but I thought that the question is related to development, will post to #bitcoin
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03:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #15567: Make OutputType consistent with Descriptor and return it (master...2019/03/descriptor-output-type) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15567
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07:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #15340: gui: Introduce bilingual GUI error messages (master...20190204-bilingual-initerror) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15340
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11:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] cisba closed pull request #15554: docs: binary tar improvement (master...improve-tar) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15554
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11:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] cisba opened pull request #15569: docs: improve linux tar packages (master...improve-tar-rebased) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15569
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13:29 < gmaxwell> Does anyone feel like getting agressive with anti-virus companies to get them to stop false positiving on bitcoind?
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13:30 < gmaxwell> the security alias just got yet another report, apparently mac AV software is now also claiming that bitcoin is a virus.
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14:12 < owowo> AV companies are the snake-oil salesmen of the modern age
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14:29 < tryphe> gmaxwell, if AV software was any good, it would detect itself as a backdoor and self-delete
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17:38 < echeveria> it's.. hard to see why they would think that
17:38 < echeveria> it's not like it's cgminer that gets bundled in malware. 
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21:14 < midnightmagic> gmaxwell: /w 31
21:14 < midnightmagic> er..  sorry.
21:44 < gmaxwell> echeveria: I think they are actually detecting that it looks for "wallet.dat"
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21:56 < echeveria> gmaxwell: oh weird. 
21:56 < echeveria> I guess that's a good heuristic for everything other than bitcoin core. 
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22:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rojarsmith opened pull request #15571: Add auto select custom fee when smart fee not initialized. (master...mydev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15571
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22:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rojarsmith closed pull request #15571: Add auto select custom fee when smart fee not initialized. (master...mydev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15571
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22:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rojarsmith opened pull request #15572: Add auto select custom fee when smart fee not initialized. (master...dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15572
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