--- Log opened Thu Apr 04 00:00:35 2019
00:07 < gwillen> sipa: can I summon you to #15743
00:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15743 | getaddressinfo missing key origin information for multisig · Issue #15743 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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00:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #15744: Extract ParseDescriptorRange (master...parse-descriptor-range) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15744
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07:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15746: rpc: RPCHelpMan: Always name dictionary keys (master...1904-rpcUtilFix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15746
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08:57 < araspitzu> Hi, does anybody have more info on the error "Transaction too large for fee policy"? Seems to happen at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L2986
08:58 < araspitzu> It's my understanding that the fees attached to this tx wouldn't be enough to cover the "minRelayFee" and thus the transaction isn't even worth to be made
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10:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba54342c9dd3...daef20fb50c0
10:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fae5f87 MarcoFalke: rpc: Document that minconf is an ignored dummy value
10:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faa3a24 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: wallet: Rename pcoin to wtx
10:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac1a0f MarcoFalke: wallet: Remove unused GetLegacyBalance
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10:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15596: rpc: Ignore sendmany::minconf as dummy value (master...1903-rpcWalletDummySendmany_2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15596
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10:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15747: wallet: Remove plethora of Get*Balance (master...1903-walletBal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15747
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11:23 < wumpus> rc3 binaries up https://bitcoincore.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.18.0/test.rc3/
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11:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob closed pull request #15735: Add scheduler deadlock detection (master...2019-04-serialize-scheduler) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15735
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11:43 < sipa> gwillen: back to your problem yesterday... you say gai on the derived addresses says ismine:false (which is expected for a watchonly address), but what does it say about watchonly and solvable?
11:44 < gwillen> sipa: solvable true, watchonly true
11:44 < gwillen> the only problem I see is the lack of key origin info
11:44 < sipa> ok!
11:44 < sipa> that's easy to fix
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11:44 < gwillen> and the spurious warning
11:44 < sipa> the import logic only looks at origin info for pubkeys that are being imported as well
11:45 < gwillen> makes sense
11:45 < gwillen> but the wallet is capable of holding origin info for pubkeys it doesn't have?
11:45 < sipa> it should import all known origin info, even for pubkeys that aren't being imported
11:45 < sipa> hmm
11:45 < sipa> i'm mostly confused why deriveaddresses doesn't maintain the origin info
11:45 < sipa> there is no wallet involved there
11:47 < sipa> yeah i think we can import origin info for other keys
11:48 < gwillen> sipa: yeah ProcessImport is just throwing it away if it doesn't have the key
11:48 < gwillen> it calls pwallet->AddKeyOrigin for keys it has
11:48 < gwillen> and throws away the rest
11:52 < gwillen> but AddKeyOrigin wants a pubkey, which we don't have...
11:53 < sipa_> it doesn't actually use a pubkey
11:53 < sipa> only a pubkeyhash
11:54 < sipa_> hi sipa_
11:54 < sipa> why am i here twice in the same client?
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11:56 < MarcoFalke> sipa: Have you tried turning it off an on again?
11:56 < sipa> actually, just off
11:56 < sipa> feels much better
11:56 < sipa> gwillen: oh i see now
11:56 < MarcoFalke> \o/ on rc3, hopefully the last
11:57 < sipa> you're reporting the gai output, and notice there that the origin info is missing
11:57 < sipa> yeah, i think we should try importing just all origin info, even for non-importable pubkeys
11:57 < sipa> but it's probably not enough to delay 0.18 for
11:57 < sipa> (trying to avoid killing MarcoFalke's mood)
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12:00 < dongcarl> meeting?
12:00 < achow101> meeting
12:00 < sipa> meeting
12:01 < jonasschnelli> yes
12:01 < jonasschnelli> meeting
12:01 < wumpus> #startmeeting
12:01 < lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Apr  4 19:01:17 2019 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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12:01 < jnewbery> hi
12:02 < wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb
12:02 < wumpus> proposed topics?
12:02 < MarcoFalke> TODOs in the release notes
12:02 < MarcoFalke> They seem generally ready, but we'd need to finalize them for -final
12:02 < wumpus> ok
12:02 < MarcoFalke> They are "TODO sipa", not sure if that means sipa should do something or they were added by sipa
12:03 < wumpus> #topic high priority for review
12:03 < wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8
12:03 < wumpus> #15006 #15557 #14121 #15141 #15512
12:03 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15006 | Add option to create an encrypted wallet by achow101 · Pull Request #15006 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:03 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15557 | Enhance `bumpfee` to include inputs when targeting a feerate by instagibbs · Pull Request #15557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < sipa> MarcoFalke: it means i'll try to write them if nobody beats me :)
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15141 | Rewrite DoS interface between validation and net_processing by sdaftuar · Pull Request #15141 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15512 | Add ChaCha20 encryption option (XOR) by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #15512 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14121 | Index for BIP 157 block filters by jimpo · Pull Request #14121 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < wumpus> dunno if someone has something to add or remove?
12:05 < meshcollider> hi
12:05 < wumpus> helloo
12:05  * sipa waves at wumpus 
12:06 < sipa> i don't have anything right now for high priority
12:06 < meshcollider> I'm still at ICPC so apologies for lack of activity
12:06 < achow101> are any of gwillen's issue's blockers for rc3?
12:06 < achow101> s/rc3/final/
12:07 < wumpus> I don't think there's any blocking issues for rc3
12:07 < wumpus> eh, for 0.18.0
12:07 < sipa> i'm making a PR to fix #15743 right now, but i think it's a minor thing
12:07 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15743 | getaddressinfo missing key origin information for multisig · Issue #15743 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:08 < wumpus> #topic blockers for 0.18.0
12:09 < sipa> gwillen: opinions?
12:10 < wumpus> so are any of these regressions for 0.18?
12:10 < achow101> I don't think so. they're all new stuff added with descriptors
12:10 < gwillen> I don't have opinions about 0.18
12:11 < gwillen> none of them are correctness issues
12:11 < wumpus> achow101: ok, thanks
12:12 < wumpus> doesn't seem that needs to block the release
12:12 < wumpus> #topic release notes TODOs 0.18.0
12:12 < gwillen> well, "manual coin control broken with multiple wallets" is not merely superficial, but I don't think you can successfully do anything broken with it, as far as I can tell
12:12 < sipa> i'd welcome help to fill in my TODOs :)
12:13 < MarcoFalke> working on it rn
12:13 < wumpus> gwillen: right-I just think the criterion at this point is "worked in 0.17 and broken in 0.18"
12:13 < gwillen> :+1:
12:14 < wumpus> unless it's really dangerous ofc, but in that case we could also opt for disabling the feature that introduces it
12:14 < gwillen> it is not totally out of the question that a clever user could accidentally send coins from the wrong wallet with it
12:14 < gwillen> but when I tried to do so, I got an error
12:14 < wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.18.0-Release-Notes-Draft
12:15 < gwillen> and it only triggers if you are performing coin control on multiple wallets at once, which would be a weird thing to be doing
12:15 < wumpus> gwillen: we could add a known issue
12:15 < gwillen> that would make sense, although who reads those
12:15 < gwillen> but I think it is definitely a known thing that one should avoid triggering
12:16 < wumpus> sigh, who ever reads anything right ...
12:16 < wumpus> if you start asking that why spend time writing release notes at all !
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12:17 < wumpus> anyhow the TODO s are;
12:17 < wumpus> (TODO pieter: it feels like this section can be merged with the earlier RPC changes section) (under low-level changes)
12:17 < wumpus> Descriptors with key origin information imported through importmulti will have their key origin information stored in the wallet for use with creating PSBTs. (TODO pieter: this should probably be merged with the text on importmulti gaining descriptor support)
12:17 < wumpus> (TODO pieter: mention getdata randomization from #14897 and perhaps orphan tx handling from #14626) under "network"
12:17 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14897 | randomize GETDATA(tx) request order and introduce bias toward outbound by naumenkogs · Pull Request #14897 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:18 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14626 | Select orphan transaction uniformly for eviction by sipa · Pull Request #14626 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:18 < wumpus> (TODO pieter: mention HWI project?)  under "wallet"
12:18 < wumpus> (TODO pieter: mention that the rdseed instruction is used where available) under "security"
12:18 < wumpus> I think the latter is very low-level for release notes
12:18 < sipa> yeah
12:19 < wumpus> we also need to be careful to include things that are useful to users to know
12:19 < wumpus> too much and people will indeed just skip over things
12:20 < wumpus> (TODO pieter: mention new descriptor RPCs deriveaddresses/getdescriptorinfo, and descriptor support in importmulti) under "Documentation"
12:21 < wumpus> anyhow help is welcome here
12:21 < sipa> assuming no further problems in rc3, when final?
12:21 < wumpus> TODO: remove any leftover TODOs before sending the final release notes :)
12:22 < wumpus> more or less one week per rc, so I think next week thursday
12:23 < MarcoFalke> agree on that timeline
12:24 < sipa> yeha
12:24 < sipa> *yeah
12:24 < gwillen> wumpus: I added some suggested known-issue text to #15725
12:25 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15725 | Manual coin control dialog interacts badly with multiple wallets · Issue #15725 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:25 < sipa> when do we switch release notes back from wallet to repo?
12:25 < MarcoFalke> next tuesday?
12:26 < wumpus> sipa: usually just before labeling final
12:26 < sipa> okay
12:26 < MarcoFalke> Shouldn't there be one day so that everyone can look over what is going to be tagged as final?
12:26 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: also fine with me, if we know we're going to do final next
12:27 < wumpus> just, if you want to do release note editing, please do it on the wiki
12:28 < wumpus> any other topics?
12:30 < kanzure> no warren update today
12:30 < wumpus> thanks for letting us know kanzure 
12:32 < wumpus> I guess that's all for today
12:32 < wumpus> #endmeeting
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12:33 < wumpus> gwillen: thanks
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12:33 < gwillen> wumpus: I can edit it into the notes on the wiki, but where actually is that? :-)
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12:34 < sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki
12:35 < wumpus> gwillen: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.18.0-Release-Notes-Draft#known-issues
12:35 < wumpus> I've already added it, feel free to edit it further
12:35 < gwillen> thanks
12:37 < gwillen> I tried to think of a narrower recommendation, but I think probably very few people are using these features together anyway
12:37 < gwillen> and I'm afraid of wrongly implying that some usage pattern is safe, given that I don't really know the implications of the issue
12:38 < wumpus> yes, it's good like this
12:38 < gwillen> :+1:
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12:41 < sipa> gwillen, achow101: it seems deriveaddresses has somewhat exponentially-looking performance for increasing number of keys
12:41 < sipa> this is weird
12:42 < achow101> i would expect it to be linear
12:42 < sipa> it should be
12:45 < achow101> maybe it's because you use the same provider as the input and output of Expand? More and more stuff gets put into it, so it becomes large and slower to search?
12:45 < achow101> I don't think there is a need to use the same provider since it isn't using any of the resulting solving data
12:47 < sipa> agree
12:47 < sipa> that could be the reason
12:47 < sipa> should be more n*log(n)'ish though
12:47 < sipa> maybe it is
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12:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #15748: [rpc] remove dead mining code (master...2019_04_simplify_generate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15748
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12:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #15749: Fix: importmulti only imports origin info for PKH outputs (master...201904_importallorigins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15749
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12:58 < sipa> gwillen: ^ 
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13:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #15750: [rpc] Remove the addresses field from the getaddressinfo return object (master...2019_04_remove_address_from_getaddressinfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15750
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13:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #15751: Speed up deriveaddresses for large ranges (master...201904_fasterderiveaddresses) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15751
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13:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/daef20fb50c0...c83442e17412
13:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8548c MarcoFalke: net: Remove unused unsanitized user agent string CNode::strSubVer
13:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c83442e MarcoFalke: Merge #15654: net: Remove unused unsanitized user agent string CNode::strS...
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13:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15654: net: Remove unused unsanitized user agent string CNode::strSubVer (master...1903-netUABytes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15654
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13:55 < gwillen> thanks sipa! Will take a look.
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13:55 < gwillen> sipa: is derivaddress exponential or merely quadratic?
13:55 < gwillen> quadratic would not be super shocking
13:56 < sipa> gwillen: linearithmic if the cause is what i think it is
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20:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #15753: RPC/testing: logprint RPC command (master...rpc-logprint) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15753
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22:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benthecarman opened pull request #15754: rpc: getrpcinfo docs (master...rpc_get_info_doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15754
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