--- Log opened Mon Apr 22 00:00:52 2019 00:05 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06 -!- Ryan [6fcfa65d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.207.166.93] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:06 -!- Ryan is now known as Guest74488 00:06 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:07 -!- jb55 [~jb55@S010660e327dca171.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:35 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:40 -!- abc__ [771e566b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.119.30.86.107] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:40 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:41 -!- abc__ [771e566b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.119.30.86.107] has quit [Client Quit] 00:51 -!- teardown [~user@unaffiliated/mrush] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:53 -!- teardown [~user@unaffiliated/mrush] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:36 < wumpus> hope rc4 sigs will be up today, I likely won't be able to sign/upload distributions rest of the week 01:52 -!- elichai2 [uid212594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uyyvfridrponheny] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:53 -!- jonatack [d598a185@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.152.161.133] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:54 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:57 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00 -!- Antimatter [~Antimatte@89.238.150.43] has quit [] 02:03 -!- PjotrOrial1 [~PjotrOria@185.204.1.185] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:16 < fanquake_> wumpus Looks like everything is ready, just waiting for cfields to push them up 02:35 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:40 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:41 -!- cpplinuxdude [5ac0bacf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.192.186.207] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:52 -!- riperk [uid352992@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hnfcpkhfyokylmwy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:52 -!- Guest74488 [6fcfa65d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.207.166.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:55 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:21 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 03:35 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:40 < wumpus> fanquake_: thanks 03:50 -!- face [~face@80.72.82.160.coresnet.bg] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:07 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:09 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:19 -!- laptop500 [~laptop@host81-155-233-70.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:34 -!- jonatack [d598a185@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.152.161.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:41 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:48 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- PjotrOrial1 [~PjotrOria@185.204.1.185] has quit [] 05:10 -!- cpplinuxdude [5ac0bacf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.192.186.207] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:11 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/56376f336548...08bd21a3bda9 05:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8c7b932 Pieter Wuille: Pure python EC 05:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b679785 John Newbery: Add comments to Python ECDSA implementation 05:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 08bd21a MarcoFalke: Merge #15826: Pure python EC 05:11 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:12 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15826: Pure python EC (master...201904_pythonec) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15826 05:12 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:28 < cfields> jonasschnelli: possible for you to tag and push in detached sigs? 05:29 < cfields> I pushed my sig over the weekend, but I reinstalled on a new HDD, and gpg is giving me trouble with tagging. 05:31 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:31 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32 < cfields> jonasschnelli: git tag -s v0.18.0rc4 223fe938a848bec29c6 -m "v0.18.0rc4" && git push origin v0.18.0rc4 05:32 < cfields> I'll keep working on it in the meantime. 05:32 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:36 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:39 < cfields> ...of course it works now. 05:40 < cfields> gitian builders: detached sigs for v0.18.0rc4 are up 05:40 < cfields> sorry for the delay. jonasschnelli: nevermind :) 05:43 < fanquake_> cheers cfields 05:43 -!- promag_ [~promag@a89-153-67-150.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:47 -!- promag_ [~promag@a89-153-67-150.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:56 < fanquake_> pushed some signed sigs up 06:02 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #15866: test: Add missing syncwithvalidationinterfacequeue to wallet_import_rescan (master...1904-testSync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15866 06:02 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 06:05 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 06:06 < jonasschnelli> cfields: great you could do it. back on my desk in 6h earliest. 06:12 -!- blackbaba [~blackbaba@45.248.78.164] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:19 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:27 -!- dps [~textual@142.147.59.206] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:30 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:39 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:39 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:47 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@173.44.57.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:55 -!- schmidty [~schmidty@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [] 06:57 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:03 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:10 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:13 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15 < wumpus> cfields: woohoo, thanks! 07:18 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:21 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl6-24-70.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:31 -!- blackbaba [~blackbaba@45.248.78.164] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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-!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:03 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:11 -!- riperk [uid352992@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kuerndnfreiwuugi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:13 < riperk> On the bitcoin-dev ML, ZmnSCPxj linked to "coinjoin sudoku" as a reason you need to use equal-value outputs for privacy coinjoins 12:14 < riperk> Wouldn't you just need to make sure every input is ambiguously associated with every output? 12:14 < riperk> (i.e. every transaction input must belong to at least one subset of every output amount) 12:15 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16 -!- leishman [~leishman@205.209.24.227] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:16 < riperk> If I'm right, that's a pretty easy thing to model if both parties trust an orchestrator (like the blockchain.info service used to have) 12:17 -!- scoop 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gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15861 | Restore warning for individual unknown version bits, as well as unknown version schemas by luke-jr · Pull Request #15861 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 18:06 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07 -!- promag [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 -!- jimmysong_ [~jimmysong@65-36-83-142.static.grandenetworks.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:11 -!- jimmysong [~jimmysong@65-36-83-142.static.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:20 -!- Guest14877 [gmaxwell@mf4-xiph.osuosl.org] has quit [Changing host] 18:20 -!- Guest14877 [gmaxwell@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:21 -!- Guest14877 is now known as gmaxwell 18:21 < gmaxwell> I don't think having warings that we know are going to false trigger with non-trivial probablity is worth it. 18:21 < gmaxwell> the false alarms undermine the ability to have good warnings in the future. 18:22 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:25 < luke-jr> there's no reason to expect false alarms with these 18:26 < luke-jr> wouldn't that take 100% of miners abusing ASICBoost? 18:30 < luke-jr> I guess I'm assuming the bogus bits are 50/50 - is that not the case? 18:31 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:34 < echeveria> "abusing" 18:35 < echeveria> you should just assume that 100% of people will use an obvious optimisation. 18:43 < luke-jr> I guess echeveria unanimously represents consensus for adopting a patented exploit into the Bitcoin protocol 18:43 -!- promag [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:44 < echeveria> using heavily loaded adjectives to describe everything isn't helping your case particularly. 18:47 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: if someone is doing 2-way AB, you'll get each bit set 50% of the time and trigger. If someone is doing 4-way with bit aligned versions each bit will be set 50% of the time.. and trigger. If a large portion but not all hashpower is using it, it'll still false trigger... just less often. 18:48 -!- promag [~promag@bl16-114-47.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:50 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: what threshold would you be comfortable with? surely not 95% is needed? 18:52 < sipa> luke-jr: you don't need to personally agree with a protocol choice to see that it's in the best interest of users of your software to not warn about something you know is harmless 18:52 < sipa> the reality is that miners are using AB, and that isn't going to change, with or without a warning 18:53 < gmaxwell> And not false triggering a warning doesn't mean that it's approved. 18:53 < gmaxwell> If anything, not acting to block it is the only kind of "approval" that matters in any case. 18:54 < luke-jr> sipa: users can still be informed that miners are violating the protocol; but that's beside the point I think, as the intent here is to warn for real deployments 18:54 < gmaxwell> luke-jr: I'd be comfortable with taking two or three bits and just ignoring them. 18:54 < gmaxwell> There is no reason that we'd need to use all the bits for intentional upgrades. 18:54 < luke-jr> hmm 18:54 < gmaxwell> Ignoring them doesn't mean that they're magically free for asicboost use either... they're just ignored, and shouldn't be used for intentional bip9 upgrades. 18:54 < echeveria> luke-jr: I've watched the results of this, users come to #bitcoin and you try to panic them about how "miners are exploiting bitcoin". this is deeply unhelpful and doesn't achieve what you think it does. 18:55 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: it will certainly be interpreted that way - see OP_RETURN 18:56 < luke-jr> gmaxwell: but perhaps leaving the 95% in place is sufficient to deter that? 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