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01:17 < awalvie_> hey there
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01:28 < awalvie_> hello there
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03:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag closed pull request #12419: Force distinct destinations in CWallet::CreateTransaction (master...2018-02-distinct-destinations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12419
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07:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #16299: bench: Move generated data to a dedicated translation unit (master...2019-06-benchmark-data) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16299
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07:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3077f11dadff...7400135b7918
07:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a84169 practicalswift: tests: Reduce compilation time and unneccessary recompiles by removing unu...
07:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7400135 MarcoFalke: Merge #16278: tests: Remove unused includes
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07:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16278: tests: Remove unused includes (master...cut-compilation-bloat-in-unit-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16278
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07:31 < promag_> instagibbs: re #16292 AFAIK next block height must equal current block count, that's why genesis has height 0
07:31 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16292 | wallet_resendwallettransaction.py: fix coinbase height by instagibbs · Pull Request #16292 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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07:34 < instagibbs> promag, no, `getblockcount` and co are actually doing `getblockchainheight`, bad naming
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07:34 < promag> instagibbs: I was going to comment that yes
07:34 < instagibbs> and height starts with genesis as 0
07:34 < promag> it doens't count genesis
07:34 < promag> :/ sorry
07:34 < instagibbs> cool, someone had a PR for turning on bip34 for regtest, couldn't find it
07:35 < instagibbs> might be worth pushing forward 
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09:40 < pinheadmz> During IBD, is fRelay set to false in `version` messages? Or do we just ignore incoming tx / inv-tx messages but "allow" them?
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09:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16294: qt: test: Create at most one testing setup (master...1906-qtTestOnlyOneTestingSetup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16294
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10:48 < sipa>  /query andytoshi 
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11:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16255: util: Remove code to cache datadir (master...1906-utilNoPath) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16255
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11:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16300: util: Explain why the path is cached (master...1906-utilPathWhy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16300
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11:47 < wumpus> pinheadmz: fRelay is set to true during ibd, as there's no way to change it for existing peers
11:48 < pinheadmz> wumpus: could there be an optimization there? We dont need tx invs during IBD...
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11:53 < wumpus> pinheadmz: maybe, it doesn't really matter, I think, IDB takes so much more bandwidth than any amount of invs
11:54 < cfields> pinheadmz: -blocksonly, fyi
11:55 < pinheadmz> cfields: sure, but that doesn't stop peers from sending, we just dont process the inv or getdata
11:55 < wumpus> no, blocksonly really sets fRelay to false
11:55 < cfields> ^^
11:55 < pinheadmz> ah right right right tnx
11:58 < pinheadmz> but then after IBD theres no way to turn it back to true -- sounds like its not a concern
11:59 < wumpus> restarting without -blocksonly would effectively be the same, you'd lose all peers
12:00 < jonasschnelli> inv during IBD can also be interesting for light client wallets during IBD
12:00 < achow101> meeting?
12:00 < sipa> meeting!
12:01 < wumpus> #startmeeting
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12:01 < jonasschnelli> hi
12:01 < cfields> hi
12:01 < achow101> hi
12:01 < meshcollider> hi
12:01 < promag> hello
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12:01 < moneyball> hi
12:01 < wumpus> two topics on the list for today: 0.18.1: Backports #16035, depends build cache
12:01 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16035 | 0.18.1: Backports by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #16035 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:02 < wumpus> any last minute topic proposals?
12:03 < wumpus> #topic High priority for review
12:03 < wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8
12:03 < wumpus> 5 blockers, 1 bugfix, 7(!) things requiring concept ACK
12:03 < wumpus> anything to add/remove/merge ?
12:04 < provoostenator> I'd like to nominate #16257 for 0.18.1 
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16257 | [wallet] abort when attempting to fund a transaction above -maxtxfee by Sjors · Pull Request #16257 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < achow101> swap #15450 for #16227 please
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15450 | [GUI] Create wallet menu option by achow101 · Pull Request #15450 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16227 | Refactor CWallets inheritance chain by achow101 · Pull Request #16227 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:04 < wumpus> provoostenator:if you want to nominate a backport might be better to do it in MarcoFalke 's topic?
12:05 < provoostenator> Yes, sorry
12:05 < wumpus> oh, it's not merged yet to master
12:06 < wumpus> ok that should be under 'bugfix' the nI suppose
12:07 < provoostenator> Based on stats from Blockchair on 0.1 BTC fees, I think quite a few people are firing that footgun (unless there's another wallet that produces exact 0.1 BTC fees).
12:07 < wumpus> achow101: done
12:08 < wumpus> provoostenator: that's worrying
12:08 < provoostenator> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?q=fee(10000000)#
12:08 < provoostenator> It's beacuse if you set feeRate to "1" that doesn't mean 1 satoshi per byte.
12:09 < wumpus> right, sounds like a bug
12:10 < sipa> provoostenator: holy crap that's insane
12:10 < wumpus> another case of quietly ignoring an error
12:11 < wumpus> that's always a red flag
12:11 < provoostenator> It rounds down the fee instead of aborting. Which has been the case for years, but the "satoshi per byte" convention is newer, so maybe that's what causes the increase.
12:11 < promag> :o
12:11 < provoostenator> And the new PSBT methods also have this setting.
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12:11 < sipa> provoostenator: that's 25 BTC in fees this month overall
12:12 < promag> this is the miner trolling X)
12:12 < provoostenator> Some of these are batches, but quite a few are small txs.
12:12 < provoostenator> For big batches something else happens: the user sets a higher fee, but then we round it down.
12:12 < provoostenator> Which can cause large batch transactions to get stuck.
12:12 < jonasschnelli> ^^
12:13 < provoostenator> In both cases, I think throwing an error is just better. User can always override the maxfee, or manually set a fee.
12:13 < sipa> agree
12:13 < achow101> how is that we are only running into this now? hasn't this behavior been in for ages?
12:13 < wumpus> agree
12:14 < promag> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?q=fee(20000000)#
12:14 < wumpus> achow101: no one ever reported it AFAIK
12:14 < promag> those are old
12:14 < wumpus> this is the first time I hear this is the case, it sounds awful
12:15 < sipa> it looks like in december 2017 there were ~100 cases of this per day as well
12:15 < wumpus> +1 for merging provoostenator's PR soon and doing 0.18.1
12:15 < provoostenator> I'll be quick to address feedback on the PR.
12:16 < wumpus> thanks
12:16 < jonasschnelli> thanks provoostenator for bringing this to attention
12:16 < promag> sipa: that was the ath period?
12:16 < sipa> promag: i just looked at dec 20th 2017
12:16 < provoostenator> December 2017 was fee madness yes.
12:16 < provoostenator> So people start manually setting the fee.
12:17 < sipa> so this is certainly not a few phenomenon, and also not the first that it seems actually impactful
12:17 < sipa> s/few/new/
12:17 < provoostenator> And also when mempool "weather reports" became popular, and more wallets started supporting fee settings. Most using the satoshi per byte unit.
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12:18 < achow101> ack with fixing it
12:18 < wumpus> really wonder why this is never reported, not strange some people complain about high fees at least then :(
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12:19 < wumpus> ok
12:19 < wumpus> #topic 0.18.1: Backports #16035 (MarcoFalke)
12:19 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16035 | 0.18.1: Backports by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #16035 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:20 < jonasschnelli> maxfee should be batch sane
12:21 < wumpus> I don't know what Marco wants to discuss about this topic,doesn't seem like he's here
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12:22 < cfields> Marco!
12:22 < MarcoFalke> sry
12:22 < MarcoFalke> here, hi
12:22 < cfields> so close.
12:22 < MarcoFalke> I wrapped up on the backports
12:22 < promag> cfields: wow
12:22 < jonasschnelli> heh
12:23 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: ^^ looks like we have a last-minute one by provoostenator and then really want to do 0.18.1 
12:23 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: thanks
12:23 < sipa> promag: all of dec 2017 had 6336 instances; way worse than now
12:23 < MarcoFalke> Would be nice if one or two went through my cherry-picks (to check if they are solved correctly) and if the commits itself make sense
12:24 < wumpus> yes
12:24 < wumpus> #action check MarcoFalke's backports in #16035
12:24 < MarcoFalke> provoostenator's fix still needs review. I'd rather have it backported after the existing backports are merged (and reviewed)
12:24 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16035 | 0.18.1: Backports by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #16035 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:24 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: absolutely
12:25 < MarcoFalke> I think fanquake and promag already had a look
12:25 < wumpus> it should always be in master first
12:25 < MarcoFalke> I don't want to nag them again to re-ACK, so my backport branch is final
12:25 < wumpus> ok
12:25 < ddustin> How do we know the .1 fees aren't miners?
12:26 < promag> yes, most of the backports are clean cherry picks, and the others are trivial. Also non critical changes imo.
12:26 < sipa> ddustin: we don't, but 0.1 BTC is a suspicious number
12:26 < wumpus> ddustin: we don't, though it seems unlikely for miners to pay themselves so much fees when they can include their own transactions for free
12:27 < promag> are we tagging 0.18.1 after that PR?
12:27 < wumpus> promag: I think so
12:27 < MarcoFalke> If nothing else pops up, hehe
12:27 < wumpus> right
12:28 < promag> :(
12:28 < promag> I think #13339 should be in 0.18
12:28 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13339 | wallet: Replace %w by wallet name in -walletnotify script by promag · Pull Request #13339 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:28 < wumpus> #topic depends build cache (cfields)
12:28 < wumpus> promag:that's a feature
12:29 < wumpus> I don't see why it'd be backported
12:29 < promag> multiwallet is kind of useless for integrators without that
12:29 < sipa> actually; the cases in dec 2017 were not absurd; they were all paying reasonable feerates for that time
12:29 < wumpus> we're talking about 0.18.1 here the 0.19 feature freeze is somewhat further waway
12:30 < promag> wumpus: i understand, it's a bit sad it missed 0.18
12:30 < wumpus> (2019-09-15 to be exact)
12:30 < wumpus> promag: yes, blame windows and its absurd escaping rules
12:31 < wumpus> absurd and inconsistent
12:31 < cfields> So for the travis/depends bottleneck issue, I thought of some low-hanging fruit that I think would have quite an impact. By simply sharing the intermediate depends binary packages globally among builds, we avoid situations where dozens of PRs are all rebuilding all of depends.
12:31 < cfields> Instead, the first to finish would send it to the cache server, and each client would check for that package before building it itself. Because all packages-names are deterministically generated and unique, there should be no filename collisions, so maintenance should be effectively zero on the storage side. At most, a cron job to delete the oldest files now and then.
12:31 < promag> wumpus: I've asked if we could just ignore windows, let's move to the PR later
12:31 < cfields> As a side-effect, it would also kick in and avoid complete depends builds when Travis fails to download its cache.
12:31 < cfields> I'll try to hack it together this week. It may be enough that we don't need to make the bigger changes we discussed a few weeks ago.
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12:32 < wumpus> cfields: how would this cache server work, e.g. how to prevent PRs from uploading arbitrary binary dependencies, or do you intend to build them outside of travis?
12:32 < MarcoFalke> cfields: The cache would be read-write by anyone?
12:33 < wumpus> this has always been the problem with uploading any kind of data from travis
12:33 < achow101> you can configure travis to have local secrets as environment variables
12:33 < achow101> so you have an api key or something in one of the travis environment vars that lets you upload to the server
12:33 < promag> achow101: I could write a PR to dump those secrets?
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12:34 < MarcoFalke> You can disable secrets for prs
12:34 < cfields> wumpus: Indeed. It's also going to be a problem with some of the other, more complicated splits that we discussed. I figure this is a much smaller surface to experiment with.
12:34 < wumpus> for branches that would be OK, that's proabably enough
12:34 < wumpus> no one is going to merge a PR that dumps secrets and if so we have much bigger issues :)
12:35 < MarcoFalke> I feel like the same problem would be solved by having a shorter cache expiry on travis for pull requests
12:35 < cfields> wumpus: I'm thinking it may be possible to leverage github tags somehow for "allowed to cache" or so. That way the cache is always primed before another PR branches from it.
12:35 < wumpus> I'm sad that we need this
12:35 < achow101> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/environment-variables#defining-encrypted-variables-in-travisyml
12:35 < wumpus> so the alternative CI ideas were a dead end?
12:36 < achow101> travis lets you encrypt variables, but it's not available for PRs for the reason that promag said
12:36 < MarcoFalke> Travis already re-generates and caches depends on master, the pull requests are just too slow to pick it up, since they still have their own cache
12:36 < jonasschnelli> semaphore2 would have a nice cache tool
12:36 < cfields> wumpus: nono, this was just something that occured to me today. I thought it was a good idea, but if you don't like it, no big deal.
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12:36 < jonasschnelli> that lets you manually control the key/storage-blobs
12:36 < wumpus> jonasschnelli: semaphore2 sounds great, but it doesn't allow viewing the test logs?!?
12:37 < MarcoFalke> cfields: Have you seen my comment?
12:37 < jonasschnelli> they promised to get this done in the next days...
12:37 < wumpus> cfields: it just feels so hacky to implement our own caching on an external server because travis is too stupid to handle that correctly, it seems a base thing !
12:37 < jonasschnelli> but,.. maybe its something we should follow but not do now
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12:38 < wumpus> cfields: I'm not against your idea, but it seems to go from bad to worse, what's the next thing we have to implement for them :)
12:38 < jonasschnelli> indeed
12:38 < cfields> MarcoFalke: yes, that's what I was attempting to address. All PRs would immediately have access to those files instead of waiting on the cache.
12:39 < jonasschnelli> since we are customer of travis, can we not request a feature?
12:39 < wumpus> that will probably take too long, if they pick it up
12:39 < jonasschnelli> very likely
12:39 < cfields> wumpus: I'm not sure that's fair. They have storage/upload capabilities, but we're just using the cache.
12:39 < MarcoFalke> cfields: With immediately you mean "after the depends built finished"?
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12:41 < wumpus> cfields: oh we'd be using their upload/storage capabilities?
12:41 < MarcoFalke> So we'd have to wait either until our own depends server finishes the depends built or until travis finishes it. I don't see the difference
12:41 < wumpus> cfields: that makes sense, I wasn't aware of that
12:41 < cfields> MarcoFalke: I mean: PR1 is created which touches depends, then PR2 is created, then PR1 is merged, PR2 rebuilds depends next time it's bumped whether it touched them or not.
12:41 < cfields> (I believe I typed that out right)
12:41 < wumpus> cfields: I thought this would have to be some external server run by ourselves
12:41 < promag> cfields: also doesn't work for prs
12:41 < cfields> wumpus: well, that was my open question, but I guess you've answered it.
12:42 < cfields> promag: wait, really?
12:42 < promag> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/uploading-artifacts/
12:42 < promag> is this what you mean?
12:43 < cfields> promag: ugh. Ok. That's probably why we don't do this already, huh? :)
12:43 < achow101> promag: I don't believe that any blocks you from making the upload part of your script itself
12:44 < cfields> Ok, I'll go back to the drawing board. Thanks, all.
12:44 < MarcoFalke> cfields: I wonder what would happen if we disabled the cache for pull requests completely
12:44 < wumpus> thanks cfields for working on this
12:44 < MarcoFalke> So they would always get the freshest cache from master
12:45 < wumpus> that seems preferable, as long as the PR doesn't change depends (in which case you can expect slowness anyway)
12:45 < promag> achow101: true, but then you have to manage all of that
12:46 < cfields> MarcoFalke: Hmm, let's take a look after the meeting?
12:46 < MarcoFalke> I guess it would make it impossible to run travis on pulls that change depends (as pointed out by wumpus)
12:46 < cfields> I wasn't aware you could configure that.
12:46 < cfields> (or forgot)
12:47 < wumpus> right
12:47 < cfields> MarcoFalke: each push would just nuke its own cache and rebuild, I think?
12:49 < MarcoFalke> So maybe we could wipe all pull request caches after 1-3 days?
12:49 < MarcoFalke> Not a perfect solution, but might approximate well enough
12:50 < wumpus> if it's better than it's better
12:50 < cfields> MarcoFalke: are there options for that now as well?
12:50 < MarcoFalke> I could write a script for it (and ping travis on my issue from last year)
12:51 < cfields> script via api?
12:51 < cfields> Either way, +1 on the ping :)
12:51 < wumpus> it's definitely possible to wipe caches through the API
12:51 < wumpus> per PR or for all of them
12:53 < cfields> Ok. Going to have to think on it some. But +1 for whatever makes it better.
12:53 < wumpus> ok, that concludes the meeting I think
12:54 < wumpus> thanks everyone
12:54 < wumpus> #endmeeting
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12:55 < promag> correct me if i'm wrong, what we really wish for is depends/built cached across pr's? (cache by last depends commit, conf params, arc etc)
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12:56 < cfields> promag: yes. That's how it currently works. But it's racy, and there are some nasty pitfalls.
12:56 < promag> ok :)
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12:58 < promag> wumpus: whenever you can https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13339#issuecomment-504653790
12:58 < jonasschnelli> cfields: why is it racy? Do they use non-atomic copies/overwrites?
13:00 < cfields> promag: say I have a PR that changes one of the base depends files, say depends/Makefile. That will cause all of depends to be rebuilt for that PR.  When it's merged into master, the master branch is rebuilt and the depends are cached at that point. But all existing PRs have their own cache already from the previous master build. So when they're rebased to master, they have to rebuild everything again.
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13:01 < cfields> So basically touching depends/ causes a huge slowdown across all PRs and builds for a while.
13:02 < jonasschnelli> bah...
13:02 < cfields> promag: it looks like only the addon is disabled for PRs, not the artifact tool?
13:02 < promag> cfields: "So when they're rebased to master, they have to rebuild everything again." why?
13:03 < promag> uploading artifacts belongs to the deployment step, which travis skips for prs, see https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/deployment/#pull-requests
13:03 < cfields> promag: because their depends are now stale, master bumped something.
13:03 < cfields> blah, ok.
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13:04 < jonasschnelli> cfields: Yeah. I guess it has to. Writing with moving can be make atomic. But I guess if a worker is reading the cache while another worker is writing the same is problematic. They probably lock the cache during reads.
13:05 < jonasschnelli> *can be made atomic
13:05 < cfields> jonasschnelli: yep.
13:05 < jonasschnelli> Though writing 40MB should be a matter of ms'es
13:05 < cfields> jonasschnelli: it's also a question of inheritance, though. Who pulls from whom and when?
13:05 < cfields> That's the main complication.
13:05 < jonasschnelli> I guess that fallback model makes sense to me.
13:06 < jonasschnelli> Check if the branch has a cache or fall back to master (or more grained)
13:06 < promag> but we aren't changing depends that much are we?
13:06 < jonasschnelli> can't we not just cache single depends packages instead of a whole host package?
13:07 < cfields> jonasschnelli: that's close to what I was suggesting.
13:07 < jonasschnelli> like md5( host || package-name || package-version)
13:07 < cfields> jonasschnelli: s/md5/sha2, and that's how it currently works :)
13:08 < jonasschnelli> aha...
13:08 < jonasschnelli> TIL
13:08 < jonasschnelli> cfields: but that is how the depends internally caches... right?
13:08 < cfields> It recurses through the dependency chain, though.
13:08 < jonasschnelli> but not how we write it to the travis cache?
13:08 < cfields> jonasschnelli: we just write those files to the cache, and the next build picks them up...
13:09 < cfields> I was suggesting that we could somehow write them to a big global cache, and let future builds try to fetch them before building themselves.
13:09 < jonasschnelli> yes...
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13:09 < jonasschnelli> need to read back... I guess
13:10 < cfields> that operation can be write-only, because 2 package names will never collide with each-other. So it would be trivial to automate.
13:10 < jonasschnelli> I was just hopping,... lets assume Qt dependency has changed, we grab all the others (since sha2( host || package-name || package-version) is cached) and just compile the new Qt
13:10 < cfields> But the question of access causes it to break down, as everyone was quick to remind me :(
13:11 < cfields> Yes, that's how it works.
13:11 < cfields> The problem is when, for example, openssl is changed. That ALSO causes qt rebuilds.
13:11 < cfields> So anything that's more low-level than the package descriptors screws everything up for a while.
13:11 < jonasschnelli> so take the dependency package & version into the hash?
13:12 < cfields> jonasschnelli: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/depends/funcs.mk#L42
13:13 < jonasschnelli> I should be quite... :)
13:13 < cfields> Not exactly the easiest thing to read, but it takes all of that into account. The hashes are nearly guaranteed to be unique.
13:13 < cfields> jonasschnelli: you're fine! It's not exactly straightforward.
13:14 < jonasschnelli> [22:10:42]  <cfields>	But the question of access causes it to break down, as everyone was quick to remind me :(
13:14 < jonasschnelli> ^ -- do you mean with that that reading while writing is racy?
13:14 < cfields> jonasschnelli: no, I mean allowing open access to upload somewhere without being DoS'd.
13:15 < jonasschnelli> Oh. I see.
13:15 < cfields> That's why we've ultimately avoided having Travis do any useful uploading.
13:15 < jonasschnelli> I was trying to check wether with samephores2 cache manager this would be possible...
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13:15 < jonasschnelli> since they have key/blob storage, I think it would
13:16 < cfields> So I think the ideal solution for us would be to allow for merged caches.
13:16 < cfields> I'll have to think about it some more, but I believe that would be perfect.
13:16 < jonasschnelli> cfields: merged between branches?
13:16 < jonasschnelli> (single global cache)
13:17 < cfields> We have a per-branch (master) cache as well a per-PR branch. If both of those were fetched and extracted, I think we would almost always skip rebuilding.
13:17 < cfields> s/we/Travis.
13:17 < jonasschnelli> I see.
13:17 < cfields> Right now, according to MarcoFalke, we can choose.
13:18 < cfields> Hmm.
13:19 < cfields> I'll experiment with that. Might be easy for Travis to implement, too.
13:20 < jonasschnelli> Yes. Asking them costs nothing...
13:24 < jb55> re promag on #13339: yes please! walletnotify seems kind of gimped now without it getting the walletname. running patched versions isn't fun either :[
13:24 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13339 | wallet: Replace %w by wallet name in -walletnotify script by promag · Pull Request #13339 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:25 < jonasschnelli> jb55: auto debug log parsing notification! Yay!
13:26 < promag> jonasschnelli: that's some badass suggestion
13:26 < promag> jonasschnelli: multiprocess ipc with debug log parsing ;)
13:27 < promag> but really, say you have 10s of wallets loaded, how can you know which wallet to call gettransaction?
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13:29 < jonasschnelli> promag: just parse [default wallet] AddToWallet f9abce7434904fcf8b5d3c4a6e4e07d25373c7f9c76a216c8fb45027a79b6c0c
13:29 < jonasschnelli> something like (.*) AddToWallet (.*)
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13:29 < jonasschnelli> (am I really suggesting this?)
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13:34 < promag> jonasschnelli: just saying that -walletnotify is incomplete, I'm also not fond of the %w thing
13:34 < MarcoFalke> cfields: It would be nice if we could seed the last time the depends folder was changed into the hash in the cache name
13:34 < jonasschnelli> promag: sure. Your PR makes complete sense to me.
13:34 < jonasschnelli> The debug.log -> notification is silly
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13:37 < promag> jonasschnelli: well not really, maybe better than running a patched version ?
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13:38 < promag> jonasschnelli: btw have a look at #16285
13:38 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16285 | rpc: Improve scantxoutset response and help message by promag · Pull Request #16285 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:38 < jonasschnelli> promag: probably... depends on whos doing the patch and in what environment
13:39 < cfields> MarcoFalke: then it would be non-deterministic?
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13:41 < MarcoFalke> assume the current travis cache name is `env|sha2`
13:41 < MarcoFalke> the new one would be `(env && git log -1 ./depends)|sha2`
13:41 < MarcoFalke> Would be deterministic, no?
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13:42 < MarcoFalke> and it would change every time depends changes
13:42 < MarcoFalke> But it doesn's look like this is possible
13:45 < cfields> right, it'd have to be bumped manually.
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15:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider closed pull request #16192: Wallet: Catches situations where capping on maxtxfee drops the fee too low (master...issue-10122) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16192
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17:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #16301: Use CWallet::Import* functions in all import* RPCs (master...imports-use-cwallet-funcs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16301
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21:25 < kallewoof> Started up a new signet test net. Gist with info here: https://gist.github.com/kallewoof/98b6d8dbe126d2b6f47da0ddccd2aa5a
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21:55 < fanquake> kallewoof signet coins plz: sb1qrelcnkk35f0pswghdyujjte9wk3tp0aeyxr8yw
21:55 < fanquake> I'll play around with it later this arvo
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22:07 < kallewoof> fanquake: sent. txid d0fd0f0e6013b8dc00594ffb292841224c4a21fefbb3761c711cf8d8130d3788
22:07 < fanquake> kallewoof cool
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