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00:02 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: hard to tell. Looks like there are usages of either VAR in .travis.yml files on github. i.e https://github.com/search?l=yaml&q=CCACHE_MAXSIZE&type=Code
00:03 < jonasschnelli> maybe set both *duck*
00:04 < kallewoof> CCACHE_MAXSIZE is correct according to man ccache
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00:10 < kallewoof> Just me or is travis not creating new jobs when pushing to a PR branch..? (it creates local instances for my own repo but not for bitcoin).
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02:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/89d7229c9c18...59ce537a4994
02:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5efcb77 Matt Corallo: Disable bloom filtering by default.
02:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f27309f Matt Corallo: Move DEFAULT_PEERBLOOMFILTERS from validation.h to net_processing.h
02:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bead32e Matt Corallo: Add release notes for DEFAULT_BLOOM change
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02:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #16152: Disable bloom filtering by default. (master...2019-06-fix-dos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16152
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04:15 < jonasschnelli> Would someone mind if I add a webhook to bitcoin/bitcoin (a "readonly" webhook) to drive the CI i have built in the last weeks?
04:15 < jonasschnelli> It's non-invasive (as said, readonly)
04:15 < jonasschnelli> ^ wumpus, MarcoFalke, fanquake
04:16 < jonasschnelli> the CI is currently under heave development: https://bitcoinbuilds.org/
04:16 < jonasschnelli> But I want to test it with some load and integrate building all PR pushes
04:26 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: Interesting. Is the source for the site going to live here: https://github.com/jonasschnelli/bitcoin-core-ci?
04:26 < fanquake> What hardware are you running the builds on atm?
04:26 < jonasschnelli> Yes. The source code will end up at that repo (as soon as its ready)
04:27 < jonasschnelli> Its running on a relatively powerful physical host
04:27 < jonasschnelli> It's based on KVM
04:27 < jonasschnelli> Full custom software though
04:27 < fanquake> The site looks pretty nice. At least looking at large logs is more responsive than Travis 👍
04:27 < fanquake> I assume you'll be adding macOS and other builds later on?
04:27 < jonasschnelli> Yeah... travis logs are a nightmare.
04:28 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: Yes. All possible. Just caping to three platforms right now then later expand
04:28 < fanquake> Cool. I'm not opposed to a read-only hook if you want to stress / load test for a week or two. Probably worth bring up at a meeting after that. 
04:29 < jonasschnelli> Yes. We can discuss that next thursday
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05:34 < kallewoof> Weird. Github claims "all checks passed" for #16411 but in reality, the travis check never actually executed, only the appveyor one. :/
05:34 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16411 | Signet support by kallewoof · Pull Request #16411 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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05:40 < fanquake> Travis has a habit of doing weird things like that. Sometimes it'll show Travis failing when in fact all tests have passed.
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07:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/59ce537a4994...c7b7cf299a9e
07:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5c3c24c zenosage: test: remove redundant setup in addrman_tests
07:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7b7cf2 MarcoFalke: Merge #16422: test: remove redundant setup in addrman_tests
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07:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16422: test: remove redundant setup in addrman_tests (master...addrman_tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16422
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08:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c7b7cf299a9e...f4b1fe7165c8
08:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a52818c tecnovert: net: Make poll in InterruptibleRecv only filter for POLLIN events.
08:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f4b1fe7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #16412: net: Make poll in InterruptibleRecv only filter for POLLIN e...
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08:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #16412: net: Make poll in InterruptibleRecv only filter for POLLIN events. (master...bitcoin-poll) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16412
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09:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3f76160087c0...063c8ce7a054
09:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 063c8ce tecnovert: net: Make poll in InterruptibleRecv only filter for POLLIN events.
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09:02 < MarcoFalke> 0.18.1 can go
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09:14 < wumpus> MarcoFalke: what about #16414?
09:14 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16414 | 0.18: wallet: Fix -maxtxfee check by moving it to CWallet::CreateTransaction by promag · Pull Request #16414 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:15 < wumpus> (I think that is the last one)
09:16 < wumpus> going to do pre-rc1 translations update
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10:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/063c8ce7a054...a6cba19831da
10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 641b2ff Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: pre-rc1 translations update
10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 aa2d12a Wladimir J. van der Laan: build: Bump version to 0.18.1rc1
10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 a6cba19 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Update manpages for rc1
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10:53 < BlueMatt> wumpus: plz2merge #15681
10:53 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15681 | [mempool] Allow one extra single-ancestor transaction per package by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #15681 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
10:53 < elichai2> sipa: kallewoof that's not right
10:53 < wumpus> looks like recent changes in master broke compatibility with c-lightning 
10:53 < wumpus> BlueMatt: looking
10:54 < elichai2> I did it yesterday. did a full IBD with assumbalid=0 from scratch in ~6 hours
10:54 < elichai2> *assumevalid
10:54 < wumpus> user@medea:~ % ./launch-lightning.sh
10:54 < wumpus> bitcoin-cli getblockchaininfo: invalid response
10:54 < wumpus> not sure why yet
10:56 < elichai2> (fair point that I do have 8 cores and 16 threads, NVMe and a ~600MiB internet connection and I set dbcache=4096)
10:58 < achow101> Could someone help me figure out where the memory leak being reported here is: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/560780816 ?
10:59 < achow101> It seems like it's something happening in std::map but I don't know why it happens here
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11:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f4b1fe7165c8...51a6e2c41929
11:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 50cede3 Matt Corallo: [mempool] Allow one extra single-ancestor transaction per package
11:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 51a6e2c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15681: [mempool] Allow one extra single-ancestor transaction per pa...
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11:00 < BlueMatt> woooo
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11:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15681: [mempool] Allow one extra single-ancestor transaction per package (master...2019-03-lightning-policy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15681
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11:02 < sipa> elichai2: what kind of hardware?
11:02 < sipa> ah, just saw the later message
11:02 < sipa> elichai2: 16 * 6 hours = 4 days
11:03 < sipa> i don't think i'm far off
11:03 < elichai2> Most laptops these days have at least 4 threads. And I'm not even entirely sure what was the bottleneck because nothing maxed out
11:04 < elichai2> Probably the peers internet connection
11:04 < sipa> with 4 threads it would be a day...
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11:04 < sipa> 6 hours is already pretty terrible on itself
11:05 < sipa> though admittedly there is little we can do about the time to download the chain (except assumeutxo like security model changes)
11:06 < sipa> most laptop cpus will also downclock when many cores are used at once, so it may not be fair to assume more threads linearly oncreases speed
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11:17 < elichai2> one thing I saw is that there's no logic that chooses prefers peers by their bandwidth
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11:18 < elichai2> so when I manually when to https://bitnodes.earn.com and looked for closer peers that share the same ISP and added then via `addnode` I got faster download
11:19 < elichai2> and if everyone had good cpus we could try and use compression algorithms before sending the blocks around to move some of the weight from the internet to the cpu
11:21 < sipa> elichai2: not explicitly, though there is the "stall detection" logic which tends to kick out the slowest peers from time to time in many cases
11:23 < sipa> elichai2: yeah, we have someone working on transaction compression (though primarily aimed at satellite links, where a large amount of CPU to gain some bandwidth is much more acceptable than on the general P2P network), still some of the results are likely useful for a P2P compression mechanism too
11:24 < elichai2> cool. I was actually impressed by the 6 hours. really thought it will take me at least a day with the `assumevalid=0`
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11:36 < wumpus> so no-one else has had issues with c-lightning and recent bitcoind yet?
11:36 < wumpus> trying to bisect it
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12:43 < dongcarl> wumpus: Thinking about implementation of addrv2... I'm thinking: rework CAddress to be more enum-y and less weird-IPv6-y, and do the weird-IPV6-y tricks in the serialization code only if `s.GetVersion() < GOSSIP_ADDRV2_VERSION`
12:43 < dongcarl> lmk if that makes sense
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12:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16424: build: Treat -Wswitch as error when --enable-werror (master...1907-buildSwitchError) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16424
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13:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16425: addrman: Add sleep to while(1) loops (master...1907-addrmanNomNomCpu) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16425
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13:13 < wumpus> dongcarl: rust enums would be really nice here
13:13 < dongcarl> wumpus: Haha yeah... But, alas...
13:13 < wumpus> dongcarl: but I don't think you need to change the internal representation for this
13:14 < wumpus> oh wait, you do, ofc
13:14  * dongcarl almost got gaslighted
13:14 < wumpus> sorry
13:14 < sipa> boost::variant?
13:14  * sipa ducks
13:14 < BlueMatt> lets just use rust?
13:15 < wumpus> tfw no std::variant
13:15 < BlueMatt> dont we already have rust build support? time to start using it :p
13:16 < BlueMatt> (only like 90% joke, fwiw)
13:17  * dongcarl is going to do it the stupid way first
13:18 < sipa> just a uint256 and an enum?
13:19 < sipa> how will you deal with serialization in addrman.dat?
13:19 < sipa> peers.dat, i guess
13:21 < dongcarl> yes just a uint256 and an enum (do we have uint256's?)
13:21  * sipa points to uint256.h
13:21 < dongcarl> oh cool!
13:22 < sipa> we use 256-bit values here and there in bitcoin :)
13:22 < dongcarl> lol
13:22 < dongcarl> I haven't looked at peers.dat serialization...
13:23 < dongcarl> What are potential problems?
13:24 < dongcarl> Oh... we need to maintain back-compat I guess?
13:25 < sipa> yes
13:26 < sipa> well, not backward compatibility
13:26 < sipa> that'll be impossible anyway
13:26 < sipa> but you do need forward compatibility
13:26 < sipa> (new code will need to be able to read an old peers.dat)
13:27 < dongcarl> Right, sorry that's what I meant... What's usually done in this case? One-off migration of peers.dat?
13:27 < sipa> up to you
13:28 < dongcarl> Cool. Thanks for tips!
13:28 < sipa> if there is a way to serialize a CADdress (haven't checked if there is) that would be compatible, that would be great
13:29 < dongcarl> sipa: You mean serialize an addrv2 in a way that's back-compatible with addv1?
13:29 < sipa> yes
13:29 < sipa> oh, there is
13:29 < sipa> SER_DISK mode for CAddress stores a version number
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13:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16425: addrman: Add sleep to while(1) loops (master...1907-addrmanNomNomCpu) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16425
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13:30 < sipa> you can leverage that to just use old serializtion for things compatible with it
13:30 < sipa> and new serialization otherwise
13:30 < sipa> (which you can define i guess identical to how the addrv2 bip encodes addressrs)
13:31 < sipa> that would be automatically forward compatible
13:31 < sipa> and backward compatible as long as no new style addresses are stored
13:34 < dongcarl> sipa: Ah... So if I understand you correctly, this way disk serialization of ipv4, v6, and torv2 will be in the older format... Which means if I generate a peers.dat in a newer client and feed it to an older one, the older client will pick up everything except torv3, i2p, and CJDNS?
13:35 < sipa> it will just fail to deserialize entirely if it contains torv3/i2p/cjdns
13:35 < sipa> as it has no idea about the length of the field it's trying to read
13:35 < sipa> so i think there are two ways:
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13:36 < sipa> 1) have a global peers.dat-wide field (it has an nVersion for this) that says "this file uses new encoding", and then all addresses in it use new encoding; you'd have read support for the old format, but always write in the new format
13:38 < sipa> 2) you use the per-address nVersion field to distinguish between old and new (right now the nVersion field there is just the client version number which is a terrible practice anyway; define some cutoff equivalent to say 0.99.0 which means "new format" and stick to 0.18.x for old format), but use old encoding when writing tor/ipv4/ipv6
13:39 < sipa> the first idea is perhaps simpler and much more compact
13:39 < sipa> as ipv4 is hugely wasteful in the old serialization
13:39 < dongcarl> Yeah that makes sense
13:39 < dongcarl> I'm gunna aim for #1 first
13:39 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1 | JSON-RPC support for mobile devices ("ultra-lightweight" clients) · Issue #1 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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13:40 < dongcarl> sipa: Thanks for helping think this thru!
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13:42 < sipa> to switch between old and new encoding, i suggest not actually using nVersion directly (it's messy...), but instead ORing some field flag into like, like SERIALIZE_TRANSACTION_NO_WITNESS for transactions
13:42 < sipa> then you can also use OverrideStream in the P2P code to select between old and new encoding based on what the peer supports
13:45 < dongcarl> sipa: Hmmm I think the spec wants me to use nVersion? https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/f5174192e2d5fb3dfa7232be62d1b9d586a7f8d6/bip-0155.mediawiki#compatibility
13:46 < sipa> dongcarl: i mean, don't use the p2p protocol nVersion directly to select between features
13:46 < sipa> that feels like an enormous layer violation, and makes things messy in addrman (where nVersion is the _client_ version, while on the wire it's the protocol version...)
13:47 < sipa> even if at connection time nVersion is used to signal readiness for the new protocol, set a flag in CNode or so to remember what addr protocol is used, and then explicitly choose a flag to set when serializing addr messages based on that
13:48  * dongcarl reading and trying to understand
13:48 < sipa> dongcarl: basically my opinion is that it's a mistake that there is a single "stream version" number that influences serialization
13:49 < dongcarl> sipa: You mean like our existing logic for CADDR_TIME_VERSION?
13:49 < dongcarl> That's the mistake?
13:49 < sipa> yes
13:49 < sipa> well, that's historical, and dates from a time when client versions and protocol versions were the same thing
13:49 < sipa> but right now those two are distinct things, and it's not the CAddress that should know exactly which protocols require which serializations
13:50 < sipa> it should be the protocol implementations that decide that, and just tell CAddress whether to use v1 or v2 (which is something CAddress should know about)
13:51 < dongcarl> Okay, I think I understand that. What's a good way of passing the v1 vs v2 info to CAddress so it knows how to serialize?
13:52 < sipa> by essentially using the high bits of nVersion as a bit field, and using one bit in it to indicate which encoding to use
13:52 < sipa> like SERIALIZE_TRANSACTION_NO_WITNESS (which is equal to 0x40000000)
13:53 < dongcarl> Oh I see... Seems hacky but there's no way we're serializing a transaction while we're also serializing an address so that's okay, right?
13:53 < sipa> right, they don't need to live in the same namespace
13:53 < sipa> for segwit, based on whether segwit support was negotiated with the peer (and/or whether the witness flag in a CInv request is set), a wrapper makes the stream temporarily report that flag in its nVersion
13:54 < dongcarl> Okay that makes sense!
13:54 < dongcarl> sipa: Glad you pointed this out because I was about to copy the CADDR_TIME_VERSION logic
13:55 < sipa> for example, see the line in net_processing:
13:55 < sipa> connman->PushMessage(pfrom, msgMaker.Make(SERIALIZE_TRANSACTION_NO_WITNESS, NetMsgType::BLOCK, *pblock));
13:55 < sipa> or
13:55 < sipa> int nSendFlags = (inv.type == MSG_TX ? SERIALIZE_TRANSACTION_NO_WITNESS : 0);
13:55 < sipa> connman->PushMessage(pfrom, msgMaker.Make(nSendFlags, NetMsgType::TX, *mi->second));
13:57 < dongcarl> Ah! Very good examples... I should probably define a SERIALIZE_ADDR_AS_V2 or something
13:57 < sipa> right
13:58 < sipa> in the v2 stuff you can probably drop the nVersion/SER_DISK/... logic too
13:58 < sipa> no need to encode a per-addr version number if that version is being communicated externally
13:58 < dongcarl> sipa: True!
13:58  * dongcarl is glad he understood
13:59 < sipa> much of this is my personal opinion btw, i don't want to give a false impression that this approach is some commonly agreed upon way of doing things
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14:00 < dongcarl> sipa: It's certainly given me a solid direction for implementation... Much better than me designing in the dark, and I'm happy to iterate once I have an MVP working. :-)
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14:05 < sipa> great
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15:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16409: Remove mempool expiry, treat txs as replaceable instead (master...1907-noExpiryButReplace) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16409
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18:29 < emilengler> Is Bitcoin Core installing to /usr/local by default? Or does it install to /usr/bin if /usr/local does not exists
18:29 < emilengler> Or does make install puts the bins somewhere else? Does it depend on the machine?
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18:32 < sipa> emilengler: "install" ?
18:33 < sipa> oh, make install!
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18:43 < emilengler> sipa: Yes make install
18:45 < fanquake> Much left to do before a 0.18.1rc1 tag?
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23:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #16426: Remove Chain::Lock interface (master...2019-07-remove-more-locking-chain) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16426
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