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01:09 < wumpus> rc1 binaries up https://bitcoincore.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.18.1/test.rc1/
01:10 < fanquake> wumpus \o/
01:10 < wumpus> (sorry it took a while, hard to concentrate with these temperatures!)
01:10 < fanquake> too hot or too cold ?
01:12 < wumpus> too hot
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01:41 < wumpus> oh, we still need relesae notes for 0.18.1
01:42 < wumpus> release notes on the 0.18 branch are entirely blank at the moment https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.18/doc/release-notes.md
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02:09 < fanquake> 👀
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02:09 < fanquake> Good call. Are you putting those together, otherwise I can have a look later tonight
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02:28 < wumpus> i'll have a look at it in the evening
02:29 < wumpus> if you want to put in something already please do :)
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04:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/67923d6b3c1e...0626b8cbdf0a
04:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c3dfc91 Fabian Jahr: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS
04:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0626b8c MarcoFalke: Merge #16445: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS
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04:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16445: test: Skip flaky p2p_invalid_messages test on macOS (master...mac_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16445
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04:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] EvertonMelo opened pull request #16449: Update v4.3> zmq.md fix CVE-2019-6250 { doc }  (master...patch-22) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16449
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07:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #16451: Remove CMerkleTx (master...2019-07-remove-CMerkleTx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16451
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08:57 < dongcarl> So my prototype for addrv2 is passing all netbase tests except for one: `ResolveSubNet("::/0").Match(ResolveIP("1.2.3.4"))`
08:57 < dongcarl> Logically, should we treat IPv4 as a subset of IPv6?
08:58 < dongcarl> Another question: should we treat an all-0 netmask as meaning _any network_?
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09:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #16416: -datadir or -datadir="" option implies default datadir (master...20190718-nodatadir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16416
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09:45 < wumpus> dongcarl: we've always regarded IPv4 as a subset of IPv6, I think to change that would need a very good reason, as it might break some things
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09:57 < dongcarl> wumpus: Sounds good
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10:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ariard opened pull request #16452: refactor : use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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11:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0626b8cbdf0a...d960d5ca99b7
11:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0b86e51 Hennadii Stepanov: Refactor out translation.h
11:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7c45e14 Hennadii Stepanov: Add bilingual message type
11:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 753f7cc Hennadii Stepanov: scripted-diff: Make translation bilingual
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11:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16362: Add bilingual_str type (master...20190709-bilingual-part-one) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16362
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11:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #16449: doc: Update v4.3> zmq.md fix CVE-2019-6250 (master...patch-22) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16449
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11:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a6cba19831da...784e218610d4
11:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.18 784e218 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Update release notes for rc1
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11:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16452: refactor: use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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11:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16452: refactor: use RelayTransaction in BroadcastTransaction utility (master...2019-07-reuse-relay-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16452
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12:10 < hebasto> should I rebase my open PR when a range of its commits are already merged with other PR? (see: #16224, #16362)
12:10 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16224 | gui: Bilingual GUI error messages by hebasto · Pull Request #16224 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:10 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16362 | Add bilingual_str type by hebasto · Pull Request #16362 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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12:33 < elichai2> sipa: Hey, I'm trying to figure out what kind of descriptors makes sense *inside* a `tap(internal_key, [...tree..])` desc, I came up with a new pk(let's call it ts_pk for the conversation) and a new multi for CHECKSIGADD scripts(n-of-n), and that's it? maybe `raw()`? (I don't think sh,wsh, pkh, wpkh, combo,addr or regular pk makes sense inside of taproot/tapscripts)
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12:46 < sipa> elichai2: join ##miniscript
12:46 < sipa> there are many things possible
12:47 < sipa> wsh/wpkh clearly don't make sense inside taproot, as they're only valid as toplevel things or p2sh by definition
12:47 < sipa> but i think pk/pkh should be, though perhaps by then we can just only have a miniscript variant for taproot and only support that inside taproot descriptors
12:48 < elichai2> But tapscript modifies `OP_CHECKSIG` to be with schnorr
12:48 < sipa> sure
12:48 < elichai2> so then `pk()` will mean different thing inside and outside of taproot
12:48 < sipa> but pk could have different semantics inside taproot than inside other things
12:48 < sipa> that's already the case
12:48 < elichai2> should it still be the same name?
12:48 < sipa> inside p2sh the sighash is computed differently than outside
12:49 < sipa> inside segwit it's computed even more differently
12:49 < elichai2> he
12:49 < elichai2> ok, makes sense. pkh doesn't make a lot of sense to me because when do you reveal the pubkey? on the same script you give the hash?
12:50 < sipa> elichai2: in miniscript we have a pk_h that's actually preferable sometimes to pk
12:50 < sipa> because you only put a shorter hash inside the script
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12:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16453: validation: Run CheckBlockIndex only on success (Fixup) (master...1907-validationCheckBlockIndexSuccess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16453
12:51 < elichai2> but on the spending script you'll need to supply that key anyway. (in the same tx that you reveal the script with the hash)
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12:51 < sipa> elichai2: only if the branch is actually executed
12:51 < sipa> if the probability for that is low enough, this may be a good tradeoff
12:51 < sipa> the miniscript compiler can figure that out :)
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12:53 < elichai2> to alliveate 32 byte of hashing computation? ok haha, i'm trying to figure out if the current non-miniscript desc makes sense. because it seems that there's some time until miniscript is really public
12:53 < sipa> elichai2: no, to reduce the size of a satisfaction
12:53 < sipa> 20 byte hash instead of 33 byte pubkey
12:54 < elichai2> but if that's not the spending path you reveal only the hash of the branch anyway, right?
12:54 < sipa> right
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13:07 < elichai2> what about a SIGHASHADD multi descriptor?(n-of-n) do you think it should be a thing or people should try to stick to musig even when interactivity is a problem?
13:08 < sipa> elichai2: the signing interactivity won't always be possible, so there definitely should be a way to use CHECKSIGADD-based multisig scripts
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13:09 < sipa> elichai2: we could have a variant of multi for that in taproot descriptors (and i'd suggest that for that it does get a different name, because the actual opcodes that correspond to it are different)
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13:11 < elichai2> Right. and I think there's no point of talking about a muSig descriptor before musig has at least a standardization proposal 
13:14 < sipa> agree
13:14 < sipa> i think the same is true about taproot
13:14 < sipa> but at least in terms of experimental work, we can do both
13:14 < sipa> but regardless, we can't do without non-musig based thresholds/multisig
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13:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16455: doc: Remove downgrading warning in release notes, per 0.18 branch (master...1907-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16455
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14:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16453: WIP: validation: Run CheckBlockIndex only on success (Fixup) (master...1907-validationCheckBlockIndexSuccess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16453
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15:50 < elichai2> Is the right way to access the scripts in descriptors is using `ExpandHelper`? (because `MakeScripts` is private) (I have a function that parses a taproot desc and generates a tree with `DescriptorImpl` leafs, and I want to compute the right tweak)
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16:02 < sipa> elichai2: eh depends what you want to do
16:03 < sipa> MakeScripts is the node-type-specific function to be overridden
16:03 < sipa> ExpandHelper is what invokes things recursively etc
16:05 < elichai2> let's say I have a `PKDescriptor` descriptor there I would want to get the `KEY OP_CHECKSIG` script so I can hash it. it seems that naivley MakeScripts does it but it's designed as you said to be used internally by ExpandHelper
16:06 < sipa> everything is expanded into the FlatSigningProvider
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16:07 < sipa> you'll need to add some interface to SigningProvider to access taproot pubkey->key or pubkey->(merklebranch,script) things
16:08 < elichai2> does it expand in `ParseScript` already? or do I need to call something to make it expand there?
16:08 < sipa> ParseScript just builds the Descriptor objects
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16:08 < sipa> filling the FlatSigningProvider happens through the Expand* functions
16:09 < elichai2> Ok. So I'll make my TapDescriptor contain DescriptorImpls and not scripts and i'll expand them later when needed. Thanks!
16:09 < sipa> that sounds right
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17:38 < fanquake> cfields: Would you be able to put the 10.14 macOS SDK up onto bitcoincore.org, or wherever Travis pulls the current SDK from?
17:39 < fanquake> It's blocking Travis in #16392.
17:39 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16392 | WIP build: macOS toolchain update by fanquake · Pull Request #16392 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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18:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d960d5ca99b7...d5a54ce8f0cf
18:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4433ed0 Suhas Daftuar: [validation] Crash if disconnecting a block fails
18:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a47df13 Suhas Daftuar: [qa] Test disconnect block failure -> shutdown
18:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d5a54ce fanquake: Merge #15305: [validation] Crash if disconnecting a block fails
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18:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d5a54ce8f0cf...fe001925f803
18:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 77773ed MarcoFalke: doc: Remove downgrading warning in release notes, per 0.18 branch
18:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe00192 fanquake: Merge #16455: doc: Remove downgrading warning in release notes, per 0.18 b...
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18:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #16455: doc: Remove downgrading warning in release notes, per 0.18 branch (master...1907-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16455
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