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[~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 00:54 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17191: random: remove call to RAND_screen() (Windows only) (master...remove_openssl_rand_screen) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17191 00:54 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 01:00 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:35 -!- promag [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:39 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:41 -!- emzy_ [~quassel@raspberry.emzy.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:41 -!- emzy_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/emzy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 01:57 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 02:00 -!- ericbsd [~ericbsd@195.206.183.79] 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[~jkczyz@c-24-130-172-130.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0d6b6b7c658b...fc1040acc0d7 03:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4444704 MarcoFalke: ci: Cleanup macOS runs 03:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fadccb2 MarcoFalke: doc: Document that GNU tools are required for linters 03:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa677d1 MarcoFalke: ci: Remove redundant check for TRAVIS_OS_NAME 03:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17176: ci: Cleanup macOS runs (master...1910-ciMac) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17176 03:21 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:22 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 commits to 0.19: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3834d3d12196...5b68d1654f07 03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 ba46f39 Wladimir J. van der Laan: init: Change fallback locale to C.UTF-8 03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 dc0fe7a Wladimir J. van der Laan: util: Filter control characters out of log messages 03:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 6a45766 MarcoFalke: doc: update bips.md with buried BIP9 deployments 03:22 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:22 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17197: [0.19.0] Backports (0.19...0_19_0_rc1_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17197 03:22 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:25 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fc1040acc0d7...a75cb122ed66 03:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 57e2ede JeremyCrookshank: Send amount shows minimum amount placeholder 03:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a75cb12 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17195: gui: send amount placeholder value 03:30 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:30 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17195: gui: send amount placeholder value (master...defaultsendamount) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17195 03:30 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:34 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@185.212.170.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:34 < meshcollider> sipa: Is it ok if I open a new version of #13084 which also modifies the test code? 03:34 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13084 | Do not turn OP_1NEGATE in scriptSig into 0x0181 in signing code by sipa . Pull Request #13084 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub 03:37 -!- fox2p [~fox2p@185.212.170.51] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:48 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:58 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider opened pull request #17204: Do not turn OP_1NEGATE in scriptSig into 0x0181 in signing code (sipa) (master...201910_1negate_rebase) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17204 03:59 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:59 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider closed pull request #13084: Do not turn OP_1NEGATE in scriptSig into 0x0181 in signing code (master...201804_keepnegone) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13084 03:59 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:06 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:11 -!- Skirmant [~Skirmant@78-62-14-181.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:12 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:14 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@81.92.202.18] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:14 -!- Skirmant [~Skirmant@78-62-14-181.static.zebra.lt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:17 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:21 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 04:21 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@81.92.202.18] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 04:22 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sadrasabouri reopened pull request #17202: Travis CI bug in macOS environment #17178 solved (master...issue#17178) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17202 04:23 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:28 -!- rex4539 [~rex4539@balticom-197-78.balticom.lv] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:37 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #17196: rpc: clarify total_amount in gettxoutsetinfo doc (master...gettxoutsetinfo-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17196 04:37 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:41 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@c-24-130-172-130.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:46 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@c-24-130-172-130.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48 -!- phwalkr [~phwalkr@2001:1284:f013:5b1f:6931:4a15:8996:81e9] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:48 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a75cb122ed66...a22b62481aae 04:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master facec1c MarcoFalke: wallet: Avoid showing GUI popups on RPC errors 04:48 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a22b624 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17070: wallet: Avoid showing GUI popups on RPC errors 04:48 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:49 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17070: wallet: Avoid showing GUI popups on RPC errors (master...1909-walletGuiPopupRpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17070 04:49 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:52 -!- lightlike [~lightlike@2001:16b8:5711:1400:1804:1ae:de4b:2012] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:57 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:57 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #17205: ci: Enable address sanitizer (ASan) stack-use-after-return checking (master...asan-detect_stack_use_after_return) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17205 04:58 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 05:00 -!- hcchien [~hcchien@195.206.183.79] has quit [] 05:01 -!- tsujp_ [~tsujp@198.8.81.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:13 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:15 -!- dfreedm [~dfreedm@139.28.218.198] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:29 -!- Deinogalerix21 [~Deinogale@81.92.202.18] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:37 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 < promag> wumpus: mind checking #17135 and write your concerns there? 05:38 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17135 | gui: Make polling in ClientModel asynchronous by promag . Pull Request #17135 . bitcoin/bitcoin . 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[~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:00 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03 -!- setpill [~setpill@unaffiliated/setpill] has quit [Quit: o/] 09:05 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:08 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] adamjonas opened pull request #17206: test: Add testcase to simulate bitcoin schema in leveldb (master...dbwrapper_basic_data) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17206 09:08 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 09:09 -!- profmac [~ProfMac@2001:470:1f0f:226:dd41:c98d:1972:1095] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:09 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincenzop@2.226.158.237] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:10 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincenzop@2.226.158.237] has quit [Client Quit] 09:11 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan opened pull request #17207: doc: spelling corrections in code comments (master...spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17207 09:11 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 09:11 -!- emzy_ is now known as emzy 09:12 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:16 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:17 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:18 < luke-jr> achow101: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11082#issuecomment-544570110 09:18 < luke-jr> can you elaborate? 09:18 < luke-jr> when writing, it literally uses the path saved by when it was read.. 09:18 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:21 < achow101> luke-jr: I was testing #15454 (which uses 11082) and it wasn't working as I was expecting. I may just be doing something wrong in my implementation 09:21 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15454 | Remove the automatic creation and loading of the default wallet by achow101 . Pull Request #15454 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub 09:22 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:23 < luke-jr> achow101: it may be helpful to clarify that in your comment so people don't assume it's a blocking problem ;) 09:23 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:29 < achow101> well it might be, I didn't debug it super far, but IIRC moving the file to the datadir worked 09:30 < achow101> i'll debug further today 09:33 -!- brianhoffman [~brianhoff@pool-173-66-215-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:33 -!- brianhoffman [~brianhoff@pool-173-66-215-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:35 -!- profmac [~ProfMac@2001:470:1f0f:226:49f3:1dcd:293a:bb89] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:45 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:46 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:47 -!- emilengler_ is now known as emilengler 09:48 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:49 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:50 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 09:58 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:05 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@207.114.244.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:07 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:11 -!- Skirmant [~Skirmant@78-62-14-181.static.zebra.lt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:15 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:16 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #17208: Make all tests pass UBSan without using any UBSan suppressions (master...ubsan-warnings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17208 10:17 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 10:18 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:21 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:23 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:24 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24 -!- Highway61 [~Thunderbi@184.75.208.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 10:28 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:33 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:36 -!- timothy [~tredaelli@redhat/timothy] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:43 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:56 -!- sipa [~pw@gateway/tor-sasl/sipa1024] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:56 -!- sipa [~pw@gateway/tor-sasl/sipa1024] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:00 -!- penthium2 [~penthium2@141.98.102.179] has quit [] 11:03 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:06 -!- cdecker_ [~cdecker@mail.snyke.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:08 -!- cdecker_ [~cdecker@mail.snyke.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:08 -!- cdecker [~cdecker@mail.snyke.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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Add documentation. (master...update-ubsan-suppressions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17209 11:35 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:38 -!- za-kk [54f6cb78@84.246.203.120] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:45 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] emilengler opened pull request #17210: qt: Make bech32 opt out (master...2019-10-bech32-opt-out) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17210 11:45 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:51 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:53 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:54 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:55 -!- arik__ [~arik@2607:fb90:27d4:4832:56e:2262:7589:de78] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:56 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:57 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 -!- promag_ [~promag@bl19-22-20.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:57 < jeremyrubin> BlueMatt: sdaftuar: I'm looking at descendant tracking recently, morcos suggested I ping you both. Similar to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15681/files, I'd like to make an exception for OP_SECURETHEBAG transactions where the descendant does not get counted if its parent is an OP_SECUREHTEBAG and it goes through ancestors to some confirmed output, which is an OP_SECURETHEBAG. This property would 'prove' that the 11:57 < jeremyrubin> data is immutable, and therefore impossible to be replaced without a reorg. The issue otherwise is that an OP_SECURETHEBAG transaction tree with a large number of recipients and a small radix quickly surpasses the descendants limit (large radixes can be OK). See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/master...JeremyRubin:stb-with-rpc?expand=1 for more details on the implementation details 11:58 -!- arik_ [~arik@135.84.132.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:59 -!- arik_ [~arik@2607:fb90:27d4:4832:c824:113e:ae01:4698] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:00 < jeremyrubin> I guess concretely, my question is if you have thoughts on how best to make such modifications 12:00 -!- arik__ [~arik@2607:fb90:27d4:4832:56e:2262:7589:de78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:01 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:08 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:08 < sdaftuar> i'm a bit confused -- why are we talking about proving data immutability? the descendant tracking limit is for limiting cpu overhead when updating package state (eg for transaction selection in CreateNewBlock) 12:09 < jeremyrubin> Hm ok -- my understanding was that desc tracking was to limit the amount of churn caused by replacing an ancestor 12:09 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09 < sdaftuar> my recollection of the history there is that we realized we needed some limit (less than 1MB) in order to prevent stuffing the mempool full of stuff that would never get mined 12:09 < jeremyrubin> (which is why -- if the ancestor is irreplacable/immutable, then there is 0 churn) 12:10 < sdaftuar> eg if you have a high fee child with 1MB of 0-fee ancestors, you have a problem 12:10 < sdaftuar> pretty sure this was possible in old versions of bitcoin core 12:10 < jeremyrubin> Hm 12:10 < jeremyrubin> I was going off of https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010221.html 12:11 < jeremyrubin> > the mempool is full a new transaction must be able to pay not only for the 12:11 < jeremyrubin> > transaction it would evict, but any dependent transactions that would be 12:11 < jeremyrubin> > removed from the mempool as well. In order to make sure this is always 12:11 < jeremyrubin> > feasible, I'm proposing 4 new policy limits 12:11 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:12 < sdaftuar> then we later realized when we did mempool eviction that there is a small amount of free-relay possible, up to the size of single descendant package 12:12 < sdaftuar> so making those packages smaller was good for that reason as well, and for updating mempool state after a reorg 12:12 < sdaftuar> (the latter being a very minor reason) 12:13 < sdaftuar> then when we did ancestor-feerate mining, we observed that small package sizes help a lot with ensuring that code stays fast 12:13 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@63-238-229-186.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:13 < sdaftuar> because there's potentially a lot of descendant walking in order to update package feerates as transactions are selected 12:13 < sdaftuar> there, the number of descendants is the relevant thing 12:14 < sdaftuar> anyway these are all just heuristics, and there's room to tweak any given one, but i think it could be problematic to unbound anything 12:14 < jeremyrubin> Hm ok -- what about caching for some of this stuff? 12:15 < jeremyrubin> E.g., for OP_SECURETHEBAG you can cache the walks (immutably so) 12:15 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:15 < sdaftuar> you mean caching mempool package statistics? 12:15 -!- spinza [~spin@102.132.245.16] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 12:16 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16 < sdaftuar> i'm not sure what that means/in what context 12:16 < jeremyrubin> Maybe let's jump up a level or two for a sec 12:16 < jeremyrubin> Are you familiar with OP_SECURETHEBAG 12:16 < sdaftuar> COSHV right 12:16 < jeremyrubin> yeah 12:16 < sdaftuar> yeah let's call it coshv :) 12:17 < jeremyrubin> Well it's more than just the outputs that has to be hashed 12:17 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:18 < jeremyrubin> but anyways 12:20 < sdaftuar> oh the inputs (aside from witnesses) are hashed as well i guess? 12:22 < jeremyrubin> no 12:22 < jeremyrubin> You hash everything except for the inputs, plus the number of inputs 12:22 < jeremyrubin> And the sequences you hash too 12:22 < jeremyrubin> but not the COutpoint 12:23 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:23 < sdaftuar> ah ok 12:23 < jeremyrubin> You don't hash the COutpoints because you don't know it when you're constructing the Bag Hash 12:23 < jeremyrubin> You only know it once you make the tree and spend from a specific output 12:23 < jeremyrubin> then you can fill in the rest of the txids 12:24 < jeremyrubin> If you look at the RPC code this shows how this works 12:24 < jeremyrubin> 1 sec... 12:24 < jeremyrubin> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/35e9ca1653bba805c48941debc77c256094d880e 12:26 < sdaftuar> ok i think i get it 12:26 < jeremyrubin> first you loop over the destinations, and you add a table of templates (transactions with no COutpoint, but you know the Bag Hash from the script that will create it) then you iterate over the outputs, filling in the templates 12:26 < jeremyrubin> So let's say we have 1000 recipients. 12:27 < jeremyrubin> And we use a radix of 200. Then we have one transaction with 5 outputs, and 5 transactions with 200 outputs. 12:27 < jeremyrubin> This fits within the decendants tracking default params. 12:27 < sdaftuar> ok 12:27 < jeremyrubin> Now we use a radix of 4 (which is optimal for specific use cases) 12:28 < jeremyrubin> Then we get a much deeper tree 12:28 < jeremyrubin> like 5 levels I think 12:28 < sdaftuar> yeah that's a lot of transactions! 12:29 < sdaftuar> anyway i think if there are reasonable use cases that would benefit from bumping the numbers a bit, we can certainly bump the numbers 12:29 < sdaftuar> but i don't think we're likely to increase by a factor of 10 or something 12:29 < jeremyrubin> Well so here's the thing that would be worth looking at 12:29 < jeremyrubin> specifically in this case 12:29 < jeremyrubin> We know those txns can never change if the root is confirmed 12:29 * sdaftuar has to run (will catch up later) 12:29 < jeremyrubin> kk 12:30 -!- Highway61 [~Thunderbi@184.75.208.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:30 < jeremyrubin> So it's really not that many transactions 12:31 < jeremyrubin> So at the base layer you have 250 transactions 12:31 < jeremyrubin> A layer up, you have 63 12:31 < jeremyrubin> (round to 64) 12:31 < jeremyrubin> then 16 12:31 < jeremyrubin> then 4 12:31 < jeremyrubin> then 1 12:31 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:32 < jeremyrubin> so a total of 334 txns 12:33 < jeremyrubin> But size wise, the interior nodes are all small so it's only 70808 bytes 12:34 < jeremyrubin> (interior and leaf) 12:34 < jeremyrubin> So if you compare to the case of a non-OP_SECURETHEBAG txn, which is like 42000 bytes it's not too much extra bytes wise. 12:35 < jeremyrubin> Fees only need to be like 40% lower for this to be worth it purely fees wise... 12:35 < jeremyrubin> Anyways 12:36 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:36 < jeremyrubin> The issue is that as soon as a branch or two expands (or you expand out a couple levels) you saturate your descendant limit 12:37 < jeremyrubin> Which sucks because people on different ends of the tree are entirely different 12:37 < jeremyrubin> And if you saturate at multiple interior nodes and no leafs, it makes it difficult for you to do CPFP 12:38 < jeremyrubin> So the solution that I'd like to explore is some kind of special casing to discount things which are OP_SECURETHEBAG 12:38 < harding> Use CSV to enforce an ordering on who can spend when? 12:38 < jeremyrubin> harding: that's inefficient 12:39 < jeremyrubin> They should be consumable as needed 12:39 < jeremyrubin> And we don't know who wants out first 12:39 < jeremyrubin> CSV therefore makes us have to do more bandwidth than needed to extract an output 12:40 < harding> I was thinking to CSV(1 block) the interior nodes so that nobody could expand more than one level at a time. 12:41 < jeremyrubin> hmm. But what if fees are low now, and not in an hour 12:41 < jeremyrubin> And that doesn't solve the problem in any case 12:41 < jeremyrubin> that's a block level fix 12:41 < jeremyrubin> we need a mempool fix 12:41 < harding> It doesn't? 12:41 < harding> Ok. 12:42 < jeremyrubin> AFAIK we'll still lock up the mempool for such txns 12:42 < sipa> is that a problem? 12:42 < jeremyrubin> sipa: read scrollback 12:42 < sipa> all participants know that once the bag output is confirmed, the committed to transactions will follow? 12:42 < jeremyrubin> Yes 12:43 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:43 < jeremyrubin> But it would be nice if they could all be immediately put into the mempool 12:43 < sipa> so is it a problem that not all of them fit in the mempool simultaneously? 12:43 < jeremyrubin> Yes 12:43 < sipa> ok 12:43 < jeremyrubin> It's not a blocker for the technique working at all 12:44 < sipa> right, i see 12:44 < jeremyrubin> it's just that they should go in the mempool so they can be used 12:44 < harding> jeremyrubin: I think using CSV to require all inputs to be confirmed would prevent the transactions from being grouped into packages, so the only problem would be an n-block delay for trees of depth n. 12:45 < jeremyrubin> harding: I'm not sure -- does it. (also we don't need a CSV because STB let's you set a sequence) 12:45 < jeremyrubin> If a txn isn't in a package do ancestor rules apply? 12:45 < jeremyrubin> Are there other ways to break ancestor rules? 12:46 < sipa> packages are implicitly defined by ancestors 12:46 < sipa> OAOB 12:46 < sipa> i believe 12:46 < harding> jeremyrubin: no, otherwise most transactions would be in packages extending back thousands of transactions to when their coins were mined. :-) 12:46 < jeremyrubin> But you break the packages at a confirmed ancestor 12:46 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46 < jeremyrubin> Ah I guess I see your point 12:47 < jeremyrubin> CSV provably says these can't be mined as a package 12:47 < jeremyrubin> so we could modify around that? 12:47 -!- spinza [~spin@102.132.245.16] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:47 < jeremyrubin> But I think we really want to be able to do them all in a single block, because we don't want to impose the latency at the time you decide to spend 12:47 < jeremyrubin> otherwise people will be having to expand more than neccessary to be 'ready' 12:48 < sipa> you can't guarantee everything going into one block anyway 12:48 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:48 < jeremyrubin> sure 12:48 < jeremyrubin> But that's differnet than provably cannot be in one block 12:48 < sipa> maybe 12:48 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:48 < jeremyrubin> Best-available QoS at given price v.s. at best n-blocks 12:48 < sipa> i feels to me like OP_STB is exactly making it less important when things get settled on chain 12:49 < jeremyrubin> Well so when you are expanding that's precisely the time where you care 12:49 < jeremyrubin> because then you're spending to someone new 12:49 < jeremyrubin> and then that spend will be unconfirmed for at least N more blocks than absolutely needed 12:49 < sipa> ah, i thought you'd do it in the general vicinity of low-fee times 12:49 < jeremyrubin> hopefully, yes 12:50 < sipa> of course it'd be nice if you can always guarantee optimal efficiency of getting things into the chain 12:50 < jeremyrubin> But you also might just need it at a certain time 12:50 < sipa> but it feels like a minor issue to me that it's 1 few blocks extra 12:50 < sipa> ok 12:50 < harding> How significant is this problem, though? I mean, can't we just recommend that coshv trees never have more the x leafs? 12:50 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:50 -!- Skirmant [~Skirmant@78-62-14-181.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:51 < jeremyrubin> x is small 12:51 < jeremyrubin> < 25 12:51 < harding> That's fair. 12:51 < jeremyrubin> And what's annoying is the likely solution people will have is to use a large radix, like 200 12:51 < jeremyrubin> Which is compatible with current rules for a larger tree (e.g., 1000) 12:52 < jeremyrubin> Which is OK 12:52 < jeremyrubin> larger radix uses less overall on-chain extra data (which is prunable tho) 12:52 < jeremyrubin> But passes more expense onto a spender 12:52 < jeremyrubin> Which means that the fee savings are less effective 12:53 < jeremyrubin> 4 is the optimal radix for users -- minimizes the extra data they pay for 12:54 < harding> Eh, I guess x is really 1 given that the receiver can just create their own descendent transactions. 12:54 < jeremyrubin> correct 12:55 < jeremyrubin> which is the same issue that matt points out 12:55 < jeremyrubin> that we want to always permit '1 more' descendant 12:55 < harding> So this radix stuff doesn't directly apply unless coshv gets some sort of mempool exception, I think. 12:55 < jeremyrubin> Which radix stuff? 12:55 < jeremyrubin> No the radixes still work 12:55 < jeremyrubin> you just need to compute the radix such that the number of transactions and total size is under the descedants limit 12:56 < harding> They work, but I don't think having a larger radix provides any additional immunity to transaction pinning. 12:56 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 < jeremyrubin> Ah 12:56 < jeremyrubin> because the spend-from issue? 12:56 < harding> Yeah. 12:56 < jeremyrubin> I think that might be right. 12:58 < jeremyrubin> Well 12:58 < jeremyrubin> No 12:58 < jeremyrubin> that's not completely true 12:58 < jeremyrubin> You can still do it 12:59 < jeremyrubin> It just makes it work less well, especially if someone does low fee rate 12:59 < jeremyrubin> So you'd want some anyone can spend nodes in the tree 13:00 < jeremyrubin> for people to be able to replace by fee with high fee txns 13:00 < jeremyrubin> to bump interior nodes through confirmation 13:00 < jeremyrubin> which frees up the other half of the tree 13:00 < jeremyrubin> So you *can* get it to work with the existing stuff 13:01 < jeremyrubin> It's just much more annoying than coding an exception for these immutable type txns. 13:02 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:06 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:08 -!- arik_ [~arik@2607:fb90:27d4:4832:c824:113e:ae01:4698] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:10 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 -!- kotisky [~skyikot@gateway/tor-sasl/skyikot] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:12 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:13 < harding> Ancillary, it occurs to me that if you have a large tree of internal nodes and also a few receivers trying to CPFP bump the leaves, they could cause the minimum feerate of the mempool to increase faster than the package feerate of the coshv root node, causing the whole package to be evicted from the mempool. 13:13 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:14 -!- Highway61 [~Thunderbi@184.75.208.218] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:17 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan reopened pull request #17207: doc: spelling corrections in code comments (master...spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17207 13:18 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 13:18 < jeremyrubin> Huh. This sounds like a general issue? 13:19 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:19 < harding> Yeah, I was just thinking that. Maybe I just figured out for myself why we have both a desecendant limit *and* an ancestor limit. :-) 13:23 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26 < harding> Oh, goodness, that's probably what sdaftuar was talking about at the beginning of this thread: then we later realized when we did mempool eviction that there is a small amount of free-relay possible, up to the size of single descendant package 13:28 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:28 -!- mdunnio_ [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:29 < harding> jeremyrubin: so reading Suhas's comments earlier in the thread, I think maybe an issue with your proposal is that the package wouldn't be immutable if the receivers could CPFP fee bump their receiving transactions (the leaves). E.g., for each CPFP transaction, there would be a cascade of changes to the package fee through the tree. The mempool could refuse to accept mutable children from outside the tree, but then the users 13:29 < harding> couldn't fee bump. 13:30 < jeremyrubin> hm 13:30 < jeremyrubin> This is why i'm saying that there can be some caching going on within the tree 13:30 < jeremyrubin> But I see what you mean 13:31 < jeremyrubin> That a leaf change guarantees log(N) updates through the tree 13:31 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31 < jeremyrubin> But I don't care to change the ancestor limit 13:31 < jeremyrubin> just descendant 13:31 < jeremyrubin> Which I think makes it OK 13:31 < jeremyrubin> 20 ancestors is PLENTY 13:31 < jeremyrubin> 20 descendants is paltry 13:32 < jeremyrubin> 20 ancestors can cover like 4**20 which is big enuf 13:33 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:35 -!- laptop500 [~laptop@194.33.98.165] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:36 < harding> jeremyrubin: I dunno, `getrawmempool true` returns various "descendent*" fields to me, so even though I think you're right that only log(n) entries need their "modified" fees updated, it seems that descendant information might need to be updated too? 13:39 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:40 < harding> Oh, I guess that's not recursive since it doesn't include the modified rates. Sorry. 13:40 < jeremyrubin> correct 13:40 < jeremyrubin> Log N upwards, O(2N) downwards 13:40 < jeremyrubin> But then it can be worse if the leaf is doing what you said 13:41 < jeremyrubin> which is why it makes sense maybe, for OP_STB, to have a branched descendants limit 13:41 < jeremyrubin> descendants depth 13:41 < jeremyrubin> rather than raw count 13:41 < jeremyrubin> But I guess theres a question of special casing v.s. generally safe technique 13:42 < jeremyrubin> Im confident special casing can work but maybe not a general technique to all outputs 13:47 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:48 -!- cryptoIndio [~cryptoInd@42-200-238-108.static.imsbiz.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 -!- arik_ [~arik@135.84.132.144] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:49 -!- jkczyz [~jkczyz@135.84.132.56] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:51 -!- mmgen [~mmgen@gateway/tor-sasl/mmgen] has quit [Quit: (https://github.com/mmgen) leaving] 13:51 -!- mdunnio_ 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