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00:00 < kallewoof> Wait. I have the same issue the guy on twitter does, where I have a second container with the same data (disk3)
00:00 < kallewoof> Oh wait no, that is 1 GB not 1 TB
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00:10 < gwillen> the fact that running clang directly eliminates the overhead is very suggestive that whatever the problem is, compilation is not in any way involved
00:11 < gwillen> and that it is somewhere in whatever process the "gcc" stub is using to find the actual compiler
00:12 < kallewoof> gwillen: running clang takes me down to 0.7 seconds from 1.3, but it's still way too slow. this should run in <0.1 second though. (linux -> g++ -std=c++11 -c -g -O2 -g3 -O0 tst.cpp  0.02s user 0.02s system 98% cpu 0.040 total)
00:13 < gwillen> well, this may be multiple unrelated issues
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00:13 < gwillen> my 10.13.6 machine takes 0.46 seconds to run your 10-trivial-compiles test
00:13 < gwillen> and I have no trouble running configure or building bitcoin
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00:14 < kallewoof> my guess is every time *something* is executed, there's a 0.7s overhead. the above would be shortcutting one of the steps, thus the drop in time
00:14 < kallewoof> gwillen: i can compile, but configure takes 5 minutes-ish.
00:14 < gwillen> that sounds even less like a compilation-related issue and more like a system-level issue
00:14 < kallewoof> the actual compilation (because compiling each file actually takes time) is not that different from other machines
00:14 < gwillen> *nods*
00:14 < kallewoof> gwillen: agreed!
00:15 < gwillen> does running clang even just to get the "no input files" error (with no arguments) take 0.7s?
00:15 < gwillen> (it is 0.018s for me)
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00:16 < kallewoof> good point. yes "time clang" -> clang  0.01s user 0.66s system 99% cpu 0.669 total
00:16 < gwillen> wow, okay, that's interesting
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00:17 < gwillen> normally the next thing I would try would be a system call trace
00:17 < gwillen> but getting one of those on OS X is usually insanely annoying
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00:17 < gwillen> kallewoof: ok just curious, what happens if you "time /bin/echo"
00:17 < kallewoof> other commands (git, ls, etc) all run instantly though.
00:18 < gwillen> huh, okay.
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00:18 < gwillen> you don't have any remote filesystems mounted? NFS, Samba?
00:18 < gwillen> Dropbox?
00:18 < kallewoof> btw i installed llvm via brew and "time /usr/local/opt/llvm/bin/clang" gives the same 0.7s delay
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00:19 < kallewoof> nope
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00:20 < gwillen> 0.7s feels too long to be anything other than a timeout
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00:22 < gwillen> hmm, do you have anything interesting in 'sudo dmesg' or in Console.app after running clang a few times? Most notably, do you see any I/O errors that might suggest your hard disk is failing?
00:22 < gwillen> Like, maybe you have a bad sector in the clang binary or some dependency of it.
00:22 < kallewoof> gwillen: I had this exact problem on my previous machine and one other coworker has it as well. Will check dmesg though
00:23 < gwillen> huuuh. All Catalina, I assume?
00:23 < gwillen> I was literally at dinner with an Apple clang dev a few hours ago, but I'm afraid this is likely to be outside his area of expertise....
00:23 < hebasto> jonasschnelli: does a draft pr trigger build on bitcoinbuilds.org?
00:24 < kallewoof> gwillen: no mojave, all of them i think
00:24 < gwillen> oh, huh, koay
00:24 < gwillen> okay*
00:24 < kallewoof> nothing in dmesg btw
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01:05 < jonasschnelli> hebasto: I don't know. Lets try. )
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01:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d104aa0ace36...cadb9d33421d
01:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 61eb058 Joao Barbosa: gui: Drop BanTableModel dependency to ClientModel
01:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3aee10b Joao Barbosa: gui: Drop ShutdownWindow dependency to BitcoinGUI
01:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cadb9d3 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #18036: gui: Break trivial circular dependencies
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01:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #18036: gui: Break trivial circular dependencies (master...2020-01-utilitydialog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18036
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01:09 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: Could you also take a look at #17937
01:09 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17937 | gui: Remove WalletView and BitcoinGUI circular dependency by promag . Pull Request #17937 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub
01:09 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: will do..
01:11 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: thanks
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01:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cadb9d33421d...f05c1ac444e0
01:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ac3d107 Joao Barbosa: gui: Add transactionClicked and coinsSent signals to WalletView
01:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb8a86d Joao Barbosa: gui: Remove WalletView and BitcoinGUI circular dependency
01:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f05c1ac Jonas Schnelli: Merge #17937: gui: Remove WalletView and BitcoinGUI circular dependency
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01:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #17937: gui: Remove WalletView and BitcoinGUI circular dependency (master...2020-01-remove-walletview-bitcoingui) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17937
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01:12 < hebasto> jonasschnelli: mind looking #17966 ?
01:12 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17966 | qt, refactor: Optimize signal-slot connections logic by hebasto . Pull Request #17966 . bitcoin/bitcoin . GitHub
01:13 < jonasschnelli> hebasto: needs a rebase
01:13 < jonasschnelli> (due to just merged prs)
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01:20 < hebasto> jonasschnelli: rebased; let travis check it
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01:23 < gwillen> kallewoof: I think I could walk you through using Instruments to try to see what clang is spending all that time on
01:23 < gwillen> but I'm kind of just figuring out how to use it myself, PM would probably be best since it might take some doing
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01:27 < kallewoof> gwillen: instruments is a good idea. I'll try it later (dinner etc now)
01:27 < kallewoof> gwillen: I have used instruments on command line stuff in the past so I have a pretty clear idea on how to do it. Will ping you if I fail tho
01:29 < gwillen> ok cool, yeah, it seems to be the only thing that fills the strace niche. 
01:29 < gwillen> I can get it to give me syscall times, although not consistently syscall arguments, so it still seems like a clunky and inferior replacement for a good commandline tool :-P
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02:28 < kallewoof> gwillen: yeah, that about sums it up :)
02:29 < kallewoof> gwillen: oh, and running it from inside instruments makes it take 14 ms and doesn't provide any details. *rubs head*
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03:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jakubtrnka opened pull request #18050: wallet: replace boost deprecated method call (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18050
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03:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18050: wallet: replace boost deprecated method call (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18050
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03:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #18051: [WIP] build: Fix behavior when ALLOW_HOST_PACKAGES unset (master...20200201-fix-allowhostpackages) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18051
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03:38 < hebasto> fanquake: mind making gitian builds for 18051?
03:40 < fanquake> hebasto: sure. I assume this is an alternative to 18045 ?
03:40 < hebasto> sure
03:42 < hebasto> fanquake: ty
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04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #18045: build: Do not use QtDBus for macOS builds (master...20200131-macos-qdbus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18045
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08:52 < jeremyrubin> We're holding the CTV Workshop today. We'll be live streaming (check my twitter @JeremyRubin) and using the channel ##ctv-bip-review. Will share more information there!
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10:04 < gwillen> kallewoof: I was able to run it on the commandline with "instruments -D result.trace -t 'System Trace' <path_to_clang>"
10:04 < gwillen> which resulted in a file named results.trace that I could then open in Instruments with "open result.trace"
10:05 < gwillen> I don't know if perhaps that method might reproduce the issue
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11:35 < luke-jr> fall out from Firefox adding Rust code: now a bunch of stuff is broken and they just force LTO as a "fix", apparently breaking proxy support and Tor.. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1376621
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13:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #18052: Remove false positive GCC warning (master...20200201-false-positive-warning) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18052
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17:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kristapsk opened pull request #18053: Silence "redundant move in return statement" warning on GCC9 (master...gcc9-silence-redundant-move) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18053
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19:48 < kallewoof> gwillen: running that took almost a minute. i got a trace file with a ton of stats. would love to see yours or fanquake's to compare! not sure how to share though. 58 MB zipped
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