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00:39 < wumpus> fanquake: you'd expect a slight size increase from separate sections, just not that extreme as it is for that specific architecture/compiler combo
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00:41 < wumpus> fanquake: as for the type signatures you can assign names to parts, (like, = can be used as "typedef") this can make them more readable for complex ones
00:42 < sipa> wumpus: did you see achow101's comment that it could be due to sqlite?
00:42 < wumpus> also good for re-use
00:43 < wumpus> sipa: there's definitely some of the increase due to sqlite, but that would be seen on all architectures and compilers
00:43 < sipa> ah fair
00:43 < wumpus> and would not have an effect on bitcoin-cli!
00:44 < sipa> hopefully.
00:44 < wumpus> the size increase I noticed stuffs the binary with zeroes, it would be easy to measure :)
00:44 < sipa> ok
00:45 < sipa> it's really bizarre to me that whole bunches of zeroes end up in the binary
00:45 < sipa> is this really intended behavior you think?
00:46 < wumpus> the "hello world" test I mentioned went from 8kB to 4MB, the rest is just zeroes
00:46 < wumpus> no, I don't think it's intended behvior it was fixed in gcc 9
00:47 < wumpus> they exagerrated the alignment
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00:49 < sipa> ah ok!
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00:51 < wumpus> another thing on the list of reasons to upgrade the compiler, but then again, newer gcc might have the memcmp issue so blindly upgrading isn't a good idea
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00:55 < sipa> looks like that will be fixed in the next 10.x release
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00:56 < sipa> so 10.3 i guess
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01:02 < wumpus> I noticed because I created a lxc environment with bionic, installed all the (ELF) cross compilers gitian does as well as the x86_64 one, then used a script that compiles the same source file for all architectures in parallel :-) The ppc64 binaries also stand out in size (with and without separate sections) but it's much less pronounced.
01:02 < wumpus> (but also due to padding)
01:04 < wumpus> not sure what the page size is of ppc64 it may be needed there
01:04 < wumpus> 64k. okay.
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04:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #20452: Replace use of locale dependent atoi(…) with locale-independent std::from_chars(…) (C++17) (master...remove-atoi) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20452
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04:25 < wumpus> wait, C++ added a truly locale independent integer parser ? this is above any expectations for me
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04:33 < wumpus> bracing myself for any subtleties that come up for reasons to avoid std::from_chars anyhow
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05:09 < wumpus> it handles embedded \x00 as any other trailing garbage that's refreshing
05:13 < wumpus> and out-of-range values for the provided result type return an error
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05:16 < wumpus> leading zeros are simply ignored, no octal or other unexpected base switching
05:17 < wumpus> very good
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11:56 < hebasto> is it possible to observe different hashes for gitian macos builds on the same machine (made some builds in a row with the same hash)?
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12:31 < hebasto> ^ yes, now I have different hashes.
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12:59 < gwillen> hebasto: hmm, obviously this is not how gitian is supposed to work
12:59 < gwillen> I know very little about gitian but I know things about macs (regrettably), let me know if I can help
13:01 < hebasto> gwillen: thanks. I was curious about testing #20436, #20440 and #20447
13:01 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20436 | depends: Add a nasty qt hack to work around clang non-determinism by theuni · Pull Request #20436 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:01 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20440 | build: fix determinism issue when building qt with Clang 8 by fanquake · Pull Request #20440 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:01 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20447 | depends: Patch qt_intersect_spans to avoid non-deterministic behavior in LLVM 8 by achow101 · Pull Request #20447 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:08 < sipa> gwillen: TL;DR: LLVM 8 has inherent nondeterminism in the compiler, there are various ways around it
13:13 < gwillen> ahhhh :-(
13:13 < gwillen> that is deeply regrettable and I'm surprised they did that
13:15 < sipa> gwillen: it's not too long ago that compiler determinism was unheard of entirely
13:15 < gwillen> sure, but regressing it now that a lot of people depend on it seems rude.
13:16 < luke-jr> sipa: not true
13:16 < luke-jr> sipa: there was a lot of deterministic work in the 80s
13:16 < luke-jr> forgotten by the subsequent generation
13:17 < luke-jr> (which is probably why reviving it was relatively easy?)
13:17 < sipa> gwillen: it was fixed in LLVM9, so i think it was unintentional
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14:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #20454: build: Bump clang version to fix non-determinism (master...201122-clang) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20454
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22:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #20440: build: fix determinism issue when building qt with Clang 8 (master...no_echo_fix_clang_qt_determinism) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20440
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22:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #20436: depends: Add a nasty qt hack to work around clang non-determinism (0.21...fix-clang-qt-determinism) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20436
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23:39 < wumpus>  luke-jr: it's often like that, the "nothing in computers is really new since the 60's" effect :)
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23:46 < wumpus> I do remember old discussions about compiler determinism (I think 90's?), it was something that mostly came up for niche safety critical systems, there were some really strong voices in gcc compiler devs that didn't regard it as necessary, because there was the perception it was at odds with some heuristic/randomized optimization algorithms
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