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01:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #27838: ci: Invalidate Cirrus CI docker cache (master...2306-ci-cache-) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27838
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02:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2026301405f8...a36134fcc7b4
02:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac7f4a MarcoFalke: ci: Invalidate Cirrus CI docker cache
02:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a36134f Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27838: ci: Invalidate Cirrus CI docker cache
02:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #27838: ci: Invalidate Cirrus CI docker cache (master...2306-ci-cache-) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27838
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03:46 < josie> curious, any strong opinions / best practices for writing test vectors? was planning on encoding most everything as hex (private keys and public keys, mostly)
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07:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
07:00 < provoostenator> hi
07:00 < josie> hi
07:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa theStack TheCharlatan vasild
07:00 < brunoerg> hi
07:00 < LarryRuane> hi
07:01 < achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Are there any last minute topics to add to the list?
07:01 < fjahr> hi
07:01 < dergoegge> hi
07:01 < furszy> hi
07:01 < josie> not really a topic, but I have a few updates about silent payments
07:01 < sipa> hi
07:01 < glozow> hi
07:01 < Murch> Hi
07:01 < achow101> let's start with the usual
07:01 < achow101> #topic assumeutxo updates (jamesob)
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07:02 < fjahr> I just have a small new write-up on asmap for people that are hesitant on the current approach. 
07:02 < fjahr> (my message was delayed, not related to assume)
07:02 < provoostenator> No updates, but I have some things on my read and review list.
07:03 < achow101> looks like #27596 has been rebased, so just review that?
07:03 <@gribble`> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27596 | assumeutxo (2) by jamesob · Pull Request #27596 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:03 < fjahr> achow101: yes, james would like to keep everything in one pr now
07:03 < achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow)
07:03 < instagibbs> fjahr should that PR be moved to blocker then?
07:04 < achow101> instagibbs: it's both the tracking issue and the blocker, can't do both in the projects thing
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07:05 < glozow> not much different. glad to get some reviews on the big branch
07:05 < achow101> haven't had much time recently, but hoping to get to reviewing that soon
07:05 < glozow> thanks :)))
07:06 < achow101> #topic libbitcoinkernel updates (TheCharlatan)
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07:06 < TheCharlatan> hi :)
07:07 < achow101> looks like there's been some discussion on #27711, so i guess we're still making progress there?
07:07 <@gribble`> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27711 | kernel: Remove shutdown globals from kernel library by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #27711 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:07 < TheCharlatan> Theres been more dicsussion on the shutdown PR yeah
07:08 < TheCharlatan> The other one is waiting to be merged afaict :)
07:08 < achow101> TheCharlatan: other one?
07:08 < josie> "there can only be one"
07:08 < TheCharlatan> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27576
07:09 < sipa> please don't make these project immortal
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07:10 < achow101> cool
07:10 < TheCharlatan> I laid down some options for next steps in the shutdown, will follow through on that next week.
07:10 < achow101> #topic BIP 324 updates (sipa)
07:11 < stickies-v> hi
07:12 < achow101> looks like https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/1129 still, waiting for more review
07:14 < provoostenator> .
07:14 < achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
07:14 < achow101> anything to add or remove https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
07:16 < josie> can I add #27827 to chasing concept ACK?
07:16 <@gribble`> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27827 | [Silent Payments]: Base functionality by josibake · Pull Request #27827 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:16 < josie> or WIP / Approach ACK, not sure which is more relevant 
07:17 < achow101> josie: added
07:17 < josie> achow101: ty
07:17 < achow101> #topic silent payments news (josie)
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07:18 < josie> we've got a BIP proposal open here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1458
07:18 < sipa> no BIP324 updates, i expect there'll be progress on ellswift secp next week
07:18 < josie> attempted to incorporate all the feedback from coredev, so if you were someone who gave feedback, would appreciate some eyes on the BIP
07:19 < josie> not sure what the process for getting a BIP number assigned is, I'm assuming its just waiting on a few concept ACKs?
07:19 < achow101> josie: open to the bips repo and you'll get a number
07:19 < josie> cool, its open :) 
07:19 < instagibbs> I think you need to explicitly ask for a number to be assigned?
07:19 < sipa> The bar for getting a number is having had discussion, and having one of the BIP editors notice.
07:20 < sipa> ACKing a BIP is meaningless, it's just a mechanism for publishing ideas.
07:20 < josie> the mailing list post has been pretty quite, so maybe I'll give it another week for discussion and then start pestering about a BIP number 
07:21 < achow101> any other topics to discuss?
07:21 < josie> the PR I mentioned is a slimmed down version of the draft from w0xlt. It's been updated to implement the most current version of the BIP, and it works :) there's still some implementation specific things that I'll be cleaning up
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07:22 < fjahr> achow101: another asmap write-up
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07:22 < achow101> #topic another asmap write-up (fjahr)
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07:22 < fjahr> Ugh, another ASMap write-up ;) https://gist.github.com/fjahr/55811cb265b12b58da16d287b187d8ec
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07:22 < fjahr> The topic of validation of ASMap file kept coming up in Dublin and I didn’t really have a great answer to the question “But how do we really know the file we ship is safe?”. The simple answer is “we don’t” because we can not be 100% sure there are absolutely no issues, so I don’t feel comfortable saying anything that may suggest otherwise. But the real answer is much more complicated of course since we have 
07:22 < fjahr> done a lot to make sure the ASMap file creation is as safe as it can be under the current state of internet routing security and I firmly believe that this is good enough (TM) and still a great improvement against \16s.
07:22 < fjahr> In this write-up I try to lay out the attack scenarios on the ASMap file creation process, which ones are a big or small problem and how we try to mitigate each of them when possible. Part of this thought process led to the health check PR #27581 so it was at least useful to me.
07:22 <@gribble`> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27581 | net: Continuous ASMap health check by fjahr · Pull Request #27581 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:23 < fjahr> Let me know if there are questions, if I missed/miss-represented scenarios and if there are more ideas for mitigations. But I hope there is nothing surprising in there for the people that have thought about this in depth already. It’s just another helper to get people on board conceptually.
07:23 < fjahr> That's it :)
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07:24 < achow101> cool, will give that a read
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07:25 < achow101> any other topics?
07:26 < achow101> #endmeeting
07:27 < fjahr> Ah, if people like ASMap/Eclipse Attacks there was another analysis released to day by virtu: http://cryptic.to/eclipse-attacks/ Same person that gave the talk at Advancing. Didn't read it in full yet but it's certainly interesting.
07:29 < josie> fjahr: just saw that, looks really interesting. seems to indicate ASMAP significantly raises the cost of an eclipse attack
07:35 < josie> also, if anyone is in a testy mood, you can send me all your signet coins here: tsp1q8mxpprqfnw6vq89rjraw496jwwkqs8g56y5red0t7dttz8qq4ajyjcksfyg8dryleukcwjgzvc0sfast2xgqxfdt22q4xgganyta48crpkwlq
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10:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] aguycalled opened pull request #27839: BLSCT SubAddress Pool (master...blsct-keypool-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27839
10:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] aguycalled closed pull request #27839: BLSCT SubAddress Pool (master...blsct-keypool-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27839
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13:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bufo24 opened pull request #27840: contrib: docs fix --import-keys flag on verify.py (master...contrib/verify-binaries-docs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27840
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