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01:18 < PaperSword> Logging flushes should be enabled by default, it would reduce issues such as https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28346 
01:19 < PaperSword> Large flushes can be confused with hangs since bitcoind pretty much stops logging anything while the flush is invoked.
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01:21 < PaperSword> threshold based logging could be another way to handle this better as well. Flushing 300MB to disk doesn't take long enough for anyone to notice but it does happen frequently. Large flushes 2GB+ even on SSD takes enough time to make users question if there client has crashed 
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02:46 < jamesob> PaperSword: absolutely; I think provoostenator (Sjors) encountered this recently when testing assumeutxo. I hit the same thing yesterday; I assume it was hung during shutdown, but it was just flushing.
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02:48 < PaperSword> It might be a bit noisy, is there way to log the flush as a % after a threshold just as validating the n blocks on startup does?
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02:50 < PaperSword> But overall even a single log letting the user know that a flush is occurring?
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06:27 < hebasto> re "or figure out why the CI tasks keeps failing when it shouldnt be and fix it :)" -- fixed in master
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06:30 < instagibbs> PaperSword a single log saying it's happening plus size would be not very noisy and helpful for debugging it sounds like
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06:33 < sipa> with -debug=bench there is a log entry for every flush
06:36 < jamesob> I think it's probably worth doing if it's flushing a nonzero number of coins
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06:37 < jamesob> pretty big usability issue that shutdown can just hang for minutes with no explanatory log under normal circumstances and with default args
06:39 < sipa> maybe one day i'll pick up my background flushing design and implement it :)
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06:53 < jamesob> sipa: I think sdaftuar and I went back and forth about this before you got to ccl... very tricky IIRC
06:54 < jamesob> I don't doubt you have something workable for it though :)
06:54 < sipa> i'm pretty sure i have a design that works, but convincing others that it does (and testing it...) may be hard :p
06:54 < sipa> happy to whiteboard it out for you some day, but not over IRC
06:56 < jamesob> does it involve leveldb snapshots?
06:56 < sipa> no
06:56 < jamesob> 👍
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07:31 < PaperSword> "maybe one day i'll pick up my background flushing design and implement it 😁" do you have a patch I could use? genuinely excited about this!
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08:02 < sipa> haha, no, it has never been implemented
08:02 < sipa> or experimented with
08:03 < sipa> just an idea
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09:18 < dviola> is there a way to migrate from bdb -> sqlite (descriptor wallet) ?
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09:20 < dviola> bdb is a headache and I would like to drop it if possible
09:22 < sipa> migratewallet ?
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09:22 < dviola> sipa: I haven't tried that yet but I will take a look, thanks
09:23 < dviola> last time I checked it was still experimental, I think
09:24 < instagibbs> i think in this case experimental means don't count on the API to be stable, one off manual should be fine(or something is horribly wrong)
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09:32 < furszy> dviola: while you haven't done something out of the ordinary stuff in your legacy wallet. The process should work fine.
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09:32 < furszy> e.g marco's #28057
09:32 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28057 | migratewallet crashes (wallet/scriptpubkeyman.cpp:1915: std::optional wallet::LegacyScriptPubKeyMan::MigrateToDescriptor(): Assertion `IsMine(desc_spk) != ISMINE_NO failed.) · Issue #28057 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:33 < dviola> sounds good, thanks
09:33 < dviola> I will try it and report back
09:35 < furszy> sounds good. Try it on latest master. IIRC, there are other bug fixes that haven't been released yet.
09:36 < furszy> (28067)
09:37 < dviola> ok
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09:49 < real_or_random> Hm, does someone have an overview over the status of Cirrus CI on the bitcoin-core github org?
09:49 < real_or_random> All repos in that org share the same free limit of 50 credits now
09:51 < real_or_random> Some of them have recent builds, some don't ... But I haven't them individually, and I haven't checked if some of these have migrated to self-hosted runners. I guess we'll run into issues this month, given that we used 350 credits in Aug
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10:04 < dviola> should it matter if the node is running pruned or not (for the migration process) ?
10:09 < sipa> no
10:09 < dviola> ok, thanks
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10:32 < dongcarl> I think the RPC docs need to be updated for v25: https://bitcoincore.org/en/doc/
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10:35 < sipa> huh? https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/977
10:35 < sipa> is the server not updating?
10:35 < sipa> achow101: ^
10:35 < achow101> oh yeah
10:35 < achow101> should probably fix that
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10:50 < hebasto> real_or_random: the Cirrus config had been removed from the QML GUI repo
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10:51 < hebasto> GUI repo should not use Cirrus workers as well.
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11:19 < sipa> does any fuzzing enable ABORT_ON_FAILED_ASSUME ?
11:19 < sipa> ah, yes!
11:19 < sipa> enable_fuzz turns it on
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11:52 < dviola> I see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20160 mentions "legacy-sqlite to descriptor-sqlite", what is legacy-sqlite?
11:53 < dviola> migratewallet should give me descriptor sqlite by default, right?
11:53 < sipa> a weird wallet type that uses the sqlite file format, but storing data fields of a legacy wallet instead of a descriptor wallet
11:55 < dviola> ok
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