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Does that make sense? I guess no? 06:16 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:16 < vasild> There is an unencrypted link between bitcoind and the (e.g.) Tor daemon, but that is usually running on the same machine. 06:17 < vasild> How much is the overhead of BIP324 wrt to network traffic volume and CPU load? 06:17 < vasild> sipa: ^ 06:19 < sipa> depending on CPU architecture, the overhead of BIP324 v2 connections is actually less than v1 06:19 < sipa> (because v1's double-SHA256 for the checksum is dumb) 06:19 < sipa> on systems with SHA256 hardware acceleration it's faster than chacha20poly1305, though 06:21 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:22 < sipa> i do agree that there is not much point to the encryption in tor hidden service, and i2p settings 06:26 < vasild> ha! 06:26 < vasild> and traffic volume? 06:26 < sipa> v2 uses slightly less bandwidth 06:27 < vasild> do you have numbers? 06:27 < sipa> v1 has an overhead of 24 bytes per message; v2 has 21 bytes when shortids are in use, 33 bytes otherwise 06:27 < dviola> sipa, furszy: migration went well here, thanks a lot 06:27 < vasild> I guess that if we listen on e.g. Tor and support both and somebody connects to us and starts speaking v2, then let it be, talk v2. 06:29 < vasild> hmm, I guess we will by default use shortids 06:30 < sipa> yeah, they're assigned for all currently used message types, except ones that are only sent once per connection 06:30 -!- utzig [d5d7f726e3@2604:bf00:561:2000::71] has quit [Server closed connection] 06:31 -!- utzig [d5d7f726e3@2604:bf00:561:2000::71] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:31 < vasild> interesting, so it looks like it would be easier to do nothing special and go with p2p encryption also for tor/... 06:32 * vasild afk... 06:33 < sipa> i think so - it'd in theory be possible to define yet another transport that is more lightweight than v1 and has the bandwidth savings of v2 but not the encryption... but i don't think it's worth the logistical complexity of having yet another transport 06:33 -!- dviola [~diego@user/dviola] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:39 -!- dviola [~diego@user/dviola] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:47 -!- bugs_ [~bugs@user/bugs/x-5128603] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:52 < vasild> I agree 07:19 -!- DarrylTheFish [~DarrylThe@user/DarrylTheFish] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:39 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:49 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:54 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:55 < dviola> surprised how smooth the migration process went (bdb -> sqlite) 07:56 < dviola> well, not really, bitcoin core is one of those things that never gave me any issues 08:15 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:23 -!- andrew_mo_ [~andrew_mo@135-180-200-46.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:26 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [Closing Window] 08:46 < achow101> real_or_random: hwi could probably switch to using github actions, I just don't have the time to do that yet 08:48 < achow101> it doesn't get much activity either, so I can just turn off the cronjob for now and it basically won't run for a while 08:51 < hebasto> achow101: mind enabling GHA in HWI repo with the same allowed actions as for Bitcoin Core? 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