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00:48 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko opened pull request #163: Add fuzz inputs (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/163
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03:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c3038bf95a4b...65c05db660b2
03:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 562664d ismaelsadeeq: test: wait for fee estimator to catch up before estimating fees
03:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fcd4296 ismaelsadeeq: doc: fix typo and update incorrect comment
03:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5615e16 ismaelsadeeq: tx fees: update `m_from_disconnected_block` to `m_mempool_limit_bypassed`
03:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #29013: test: doc: follow-up #28368 (master...12-2023-28368-follow-up) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29013
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04:34 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] murchandamus opened pull request #164: Add Murch’s fuzz seed in January 2024 (main...2024-01-murch) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/164
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06:16 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge merged pull request #163: Add fuzz inputs (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/163
06:16 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/38d7a06e9544...1da8e1797aa4
06:16 < bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main a2ed781 MarcoFalke: Add fuzz inputs
06:16 < bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 1da8e17 Niklas Gögge: Merge pull request #163 from maflcko/main
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08:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #29169: Update libsecp256k1 subtree for 0.4.1 release (master...libsecp256k1_0_4_1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29169
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09:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #29170: contrib: add macho branch protection check (master...add_macho_branch_protection_check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29170
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10:30 < hebasto> if make the size of CScriptCheck smaller to fit a CPU cache line, could it improve CCheckQueue performance?
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10:32 < sipa> i doubt that
10:32 < sipa> the cost of performing a script check is orders of magnitude more than a cpu cache miss
10:33 < hebasto> fair enough
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10:39 < jamesob> hebasto: on the other hand, if you can reduce the size of the CCoinsCacheEntry in memory...
10:44 < hebasto> jamesob: it is 56 bytes on x86_64 system and I believe it fits a cpu cache line on most modern systems, or did I miss your point?
10:44 < luke-jr> I think the point is that the smaller it gets, the more we can cache
10:51 < jamesob> luke-jr got it
10:51 < jamesob> I remember martinus had been playing around with field ordering to try and compress the size, can't remember if that went anywhere
10:53 < jamesob> #17060  
10:53 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17060 | Cache 26% more coins: Reduce CCoinsMap::value_type from 96 to 76 bytes by martinus · Pull Request #17060 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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11:41 < sipa> that's about CCoinsMap, not CScriptCheck
11:42 < sipa> if you can shrink memory usage of CCoinsMap, please by all means
11:42 < sipa> because size in memory matters there; for CScriptCheck it really doesn'ty
11:44 < grndslm> just paid an exorbitant amount of money to move some funds around today (partially my fault for not organizing UTXO set better, partially getting ripped off by the sender wanting to guaranteee the Tx is in the next block, when i had ZERO priority)... but still.... there is a solution!!
11:44 < grndslm> https://twitter.com/DoctorBuzz1/status/1742628789077606483
11:44 < grndslm>  if (3Tx < TxFee) {isDust = True;}
11:44 < grndslm> Does defining dust require consensus change?
11:45 < Murch[m]> the dust limit only applies to the amounts in the outputs
11:47 < grndslm> Tx & TxFee?  Or just Tx & Tx-nonspent??
11:47 < grndslm> Or all of the above?
11:48 < Murch[m]> I’m not sure I understand what you are asking, but I have the impression that we have different understanding of what "dust" is. Perhaps check out https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/41082/5406. Did you experience a transaction that used an unexpectedly high number of inputs?
11:49 < grndslm> i'm referring to the spam attack, of course... which is what's creating the high fee environment in the first place
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11:49 < grndslm> believe i read something like ~50% of all UTXOs were claimed to be non-spendable...
11:50 < grndslm> that is dust
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11:51 < Murch[m]> This channel is about development of the Bitcoin Core software, if you want to report a bug in Bitcoin Core, please file an issue on github: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin. If you have a question about a transaction you created, it’s probably better directed at bitcoin.stackexchange.com. If you are looking to discuss the current blockspace market, please keep it to twitter, reddit, stackernews or some other forum where that is
11:51 < Murch[m]> on-topic.
11:51 < grndslm> i offered a code concept for development
11:51 < grndslm>  if (3Tx < TxFee) {isDust = True;}
11:52 < grndslm> if someone is paying more than 3x for the TxFee than the Tx itself.... it's spam/dust (same thing)
11:52 < grndslm> it's a NON-STD Tx
11:55 < Murch[m]> I see. I don’t think that particular criteria is sufficient. This could for example also match a child transaction that reprioritizes a particularly large parent transaction per CFPP. Again, this channel is for Bitcoin Core development, not for crackerbarrel discussions.
11:58 < grndslm> is there a certain ratio that would seem reasonable to exclude only non-std Txs??  4x greater TxFee than Tx?  6x?  10x?
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12:00 < grndslm> everyone seems to believe that there's no solution to BRC-20 tokens... but when they're paying 20x TxFee relative to the Tx UTXO itself.... it seems like an easy solution to me.
12:03 < Murch[m]> Your idea could do with a few more iterations of maturation. I’m happy to explain the issues with your idea further, if you start a topic on Bitcoin Stack Exchange or Stacker News.—It’s not on-topic here though, so take it elsewhere.
12:05 < grndslm> i guess i just need to look at the code for hours, since i don't know what's in all these headers, don't have a clue about witness, OP_scripting, etc.... but thanks for the validation
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12:07 < grndslm>     // "Dust" is defined in terms of dustRelayFee,
12:07 < grndslm>     // which has units satoshis-per-kilobyte.
12:07 < grndslm>     // If you'd pay more in fees than the value of the output
12:07 < grndslm>     // to spend something, then we consider it dust.
12:07 < grndslm> This doesn't seem to be enforced
12:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Christewart opened pull request #29171: 64bit arith (master...64bit-arith) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29171
12:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Christewart closed pull request #29171: 64bit arith (master...64bit-arith) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29171
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12:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #29172: fuzz: set `nMaxOutboundLimit` in connman target (master...2024-fuzz-connman-maxuploadtarget) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29172
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