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03:14 < bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] hebasto opened pull request #1028: Add attestations by hebasto for 26.1rc1 codesigned (main...26.1rc1-codesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1028
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03:24 < bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1028: Add attestations by hebasto for 26.1rc1 codesigned (main...26.1rc1-codesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1028
03:24 < bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/compare/c37e7dccc7c4...0218fd6b9bcc
03:24 < bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main c977128 Hennadii Stepanov: Add attestations by hebasto for 26.1rc1 codesigned
03:24 < bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 0218fd6 fanquake: Merge pull request #1028 from hebasto/26.1rc1-codesigned
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05:33 < Murch[m]> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29462 might be RFM
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06:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/88b1229c134f...1ac627c485a4
06:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9dae3b9 Murch: [fuzz] Avoid partial negative result
06:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1ac627c Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#29462: [fuzz] Avoid partial negative result
06:00 < glozow> hi
06:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #29462: [fuzz] Avoid partial negative result (master...2024-02-fix-coingrinder-optimality-fuzz) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29462
06:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
06:00 < sdaftuar> hi
06:00 < maxedw> hi
06:00 < ajonas> hi
06:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa theStack TheCharlatan vasild
06:00 < hebasto> hi
06:00 < dergoegge> hi
06:00 < TheCharlatan> hi
06:00 < brunoerg> hi
06:00 < darosior> hi
06:00 < cfields> hi
06:00 < sr_gi[m]> hi
06:00 < achow101> There is one preproposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add?
06:00 < laanwj> hii
06:00 < Murch[m]> hi
06:01 < lightlike> Hi
06:01 < achow101> #topic 28.0 priority projects
06:01 < josie> hi
06:01 < achow101> Nominations are now closed, vote in #29465
06:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29465 | Voting on Priority Projects for 28.0 · Issue #29465 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:01 < sipa> hi
06:02 < achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
06:02 < achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
06:02 < achow101> going to remove #27231 since it needs rebase
06:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27231 | Fix logging RPC and -debugexclude with 0/none values, add test coverage, improve docs by jonatack · Pull Request #27231 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:02 < furszy> hi
06:03 < laanwj> dad
06:03 < laanwj> eh nm
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06:03 < fjahr> hi
06:03 < abubakarsadiq> hi
06:03 < achow101> #topic Bitcoin Core contributor survey (ajonas)
06:03 < furszy> probably #28574. To solve https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28037#issuecomment-1952211224.
06:03 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28574 | wallet: optimize migration process, batch db transactions by furszy · Pull Request #28574 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:03 < ajonas> hi
06:04 < ajonas> I've written up a summary of this year's Bitcoin Core dev contributor survey at https://adamjonas.com/bitcoin/coredev/retro/coredev-2023-retro/
06:04 < ajonas> Thanks to those who took the time to fill it out and I'll be back to send you pleas to fill out the next one in ~11 months
06:04 < ajonas> that's all
06:04 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] murchandamus opened pull request #170: Add initial seeds for CoinGrinder targets (main...2024-02-coingrinder-initial-seeds) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/170
06:05 < achow101> Anything else to discuss this week?
06:05 < sdaftuar> i have a question about feature freeze and v3 deployment
06:05 < achow101> #topic feature freeze question (sdaftuar)
06:06 < sdaftuar> so when v3 was merged, we did it without actually making v3 transactions standard, so that the essential part of the rules could go in while we await feedback on parameters
06:07 < sdaftuar> i just wanted to get a sense of where we are in the release cycle, should i presume that it's too late now for this release to get that turned on as standard at this point?
06:07 < achow101> have we gotten any feedback on parameters?
06:07 < sdaftuar> not precisely -- i have a thought on how to deal with that though
06:07 < sdaftuar> but maybe not worth pursuing if it's clearly just too late
06:08 < glozow> were we also thinking about the "imbue-only" route?
06:08 < sdaftuar> glozow: i think imbued 3 is weird enough that we should only do it with affirmative acks from the affected projects, which I'm guessing we won't get for this release cycle
06:09 < achow101> branching is scheduled for a week and a half from now (i guess we're doing a longer feature freeze?)
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06:10 < achow101> but I think it might be too late to go in, we're well past feature freeze at this point
06:10 < sdaftuar> ok, makes sense
06:10 < sdaftuar> thank you!
06:11 < achow101> Any other topics?
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06:13 < darosior> Is it too late to ask for a 26.1 backport?
06:13 < glozow> darosior: what do you have in mind?
06:13 < darosior> #28784 fixes a regression which would be nice to have in 26.1
06:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28784 | rpc: keep `.cookie` file if it was not generated by romanz · Pull Request #28784 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:13 < achow101> bugfixes are allowed
06:13 < darosior> Not critical, just annoying for downstream applications managing a bitcoind
06:14 < darosior> Alright i'll open a backport PR and see where it goes.
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06:14 < glozow> seems fine
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06:16 < achow101> #endmeeting
06:17 < instagibbs> sdaftuar "i have a thought on how to deal with that though" what was the thought if I may ask
06:18 < sdaftuar> well, i was thinking more about how wallets would have to deal with v3 children being too small - basically you need to have logic that will consolidate your inputs in a separate transaction, and then use them in the v3 child
06:19 < sdaftuar> and it seems like wallets will need that regardless, because if your inputs are spread out enough then 1000vbytes won't be enough either
06:19 < sdaftuar> so with that in mind, i was going to suggest that we just pick a smaller number (like 500) to minimize pinning further while still accommodating the vast majority of what i observed on the network last year, but then abandon the idea of doing imbued v3, so that implementations would have to decide for themselves when they're ready to opt in to this
06:20 < sdaftuar> but \shrug ?
06:20 < instagibbs> shrug yeah
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06:22 < sdaftuar> but given that we're past feature freeze now, i think i'm just going to focus on seeing if we can get cluster mempool ready for the next release, and let downstream apps worry about deployment -- we have imbued v3 ready to go if they need it
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06:27 < instagibbs> sgtm
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08:05 < ajonas> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29358 looks ready for merge?
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09:24 < instagibbs> sipa what do we call chunks that are in a valid ordering for diagram building? Topologically valid?
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09:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #28528: test: Use test framework utils in functional tests (master...replace-bare-asserts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28528
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09:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #28659: assumeutxo, rpc: Add 'start' parameter to loadtxoutset (master...assumeutxo-loadutxoset-add-start-parameter) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28659
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10:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #29155: wallet: move lock at the top of ReleaseWallet (master...wallet-move-lock-at-the-top-of-release-wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29155
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10:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #29467: test: Fix intermittent issue in interface_rest.py (master...2402-fix-test-) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29467
10:40 < sr_gi[m]> theStack: do you think that a re-iteration on #28528 splitting it in multiple PRs based on code sections (e.g. wallet, p2p, feature, ...) would be worth doing? I saw you opened the original issue but the PR didn't ended up getting much attention
10:40 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28528 | test: Use test framework utils in functional tests by osagie98 · Pull Request #28528 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
10:45 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge merged pull request #170: Add initial seeds for CoinGrinder targets (main...2024-02-coingrinder-initial-seeds) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/170
10:45 < bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] dergoegge pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/f1c86bec4fdb...6a9746945a03
10:45 < bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main f701aa6 Murch: Add initial seeds for CoinGrinder targets
10:45 < bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 6a97469 Niklas Gögge: Merge pull request #170 from murchandamus/2024-02-coingrinder-initial-seeds
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12:13 < capy177> Good afternoon; I ran into a strange transaction https://bitcoinexplorer.org/tx/38bf69d55eeba8111ed0f455a92f33745f7f13ff9e59c99f0a73963ce2332271 that isn't behaving as usual, does anyone know what the deal with that one is? It's putting out a null address in bitcoin-core and the pkscript is odd
12:13 < capy177> {
12:13 < capy177>       "address": null,
12:13 < capy177>       "pkscript": "616161616151",
12:13 < capy177>       "value": 1,
12:13 < capy177>       "spent": true,
12:13 < capy177>       "spender": {
12:13 < capy177>         "txid": "65f8ac99b7167283abc5cef4dcedd82f6e86cc6e6ec9c266990d42c1d2357f55",
12:13 < capy177>         "input": 0
12:13 < capy177>       }
12:13 < capy177>     }
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15:50 < fjahr> Did someone delete spam PRs in the last ~12 hours by any chance, particularly 29376? I am not asking because of the content of the PR but because it crashed my importer for backups of the Repo... I see it is gone now, so I am pretty sure it was deleted. But it would help me to know if it was deleted today or earlier.
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16:07 < fjahr> capy177: what version of core is that?
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17:06 < theStack> sr_gi[m]: yes, that sounds like a worthwhile idea to me. by splitting it up into multiple PRs, it should be easier to attract reviewers and move forward
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17:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] araujo88 opened pull request #29468: rpc: method removeprunedfunds should take an array of txids (master...rpc/removeprunedfunds-should-take-an-array-of-txids) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29468
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18:14 < phantomcircuit> fjahr: that transaction is weird and has outputs that anybody can spend with a zero length scriptSig, except for only 1 satoshi
18:14 < phantomcircuit> so that's definitely something bizzaro
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