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It's probably not as severe as 10^400 tries 05:40 -!- SDCDev [~quassel@unaffiliated/sdcdev] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:41 < Taek> The DRA is more interesting in the specific point case 05:42 < Taek> We already know that an attacker with 'p' mining power can do a double spend of length 6 with a probability of 1 if they try enough times 05:42 < Taek> Each time the attacker tries, they have p^6 chance of success 05:42 < Taek> even without using a DRA 05:43 < Taek> But if the attacker keeps trying to revert to the same point, the probability falls off exponentially as they fall behind 05:43 < Taek> with the DRA though, they can keep a constant probability of reverting to the same point, regardless of how far they fall behind 05:45 -!- vmatekol_ [~vmatekole@g229163007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:45 < Taek> The tradeoff being exponenetial time investment 05:48 -!- vmatekole [~vmatekole@g229135226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:48 -!- zooko [~user@c-75-70-204-109.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:51 -!- jgarzik [~jgarzik@unaffiliated/jgarzik] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:52 -!- crowex [~crowex@host-78-147-106-214.as13285.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02 -!- crowex [~crowex@host-78-147-106-214.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:06 -!- eristisk [~eristisk@gateway/tor-sasl/eristisk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:09 -!- p15 [~textual@123.118.89.43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:32 -!- damethos [~damethos@unaffiliated/damethos] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:33 -!- zooko [~user@c-75-70-204-109.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:34 -!- zooko [~user@c-75-70-204-109.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:37 -!- hearn [~mike@84-75-198-85.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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