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06:59 < cryptokeeper> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2lexl2/here_is_why_the_hash_rate_jumped_and_took_a_dive/
07:00 < sipa> #bitcoin please :)
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08:04 < tacotime> is there any real consequence of truncating hashing a secp256k1 pubkey with sha256 and truncating it to 160 bytes as opposed to hashing with RIPEMD160?
08:04 < tacotime> s/truncating hashing/hashing
08:05 < zooko> Not as far as anyone has published.
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08:09 < zooko> But you mean 160 bits, I guess.
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08:12 < tacotime> correct, heh
08:14 < zooko> (But I recommend BLAKE2. ;-))
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08:18 < tacotime> speaking of which, are there any papers detailing theoretical attacks on blake2b?
08:19 < tacotime> oh, just found one. https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/467.pdf
08:21 < zooko> Yeah, that's the only one: t
08:21 < zooko> https://blake2.net/#cr
08:21 < zooko> Although there's an argument that hopefully any weakness in BLAKE2 would have shown up when people studied BLAKE, ChaCha, and Salsa20
08:21 < zooko> .
08:22 < zooko> Here's my pitch for why BLAKE2 is awesome: https://blake2.net/acns/slides.html
08:23 < tacotime> i had wanted to swap it into my fork for a while to replace sha256 because the performance on cpu was so nice looking.
08:23 < zooko> *nod*
08:24 < tacotime> well, i think litecoin shows salsa20/8 works, and if salsa works i'm sure chacha does too.
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08:24 < sipa> i don't think scrypt has particularly strong demands from its underlying stream cipher
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08:25 < sipa> (as in, salsa could be pretty broken for many purposes, but still be perfect for use in scrypt)
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17:38 < ryan-c> https://blockchain.info/address/1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm < private key is 1
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18:10 < gmaxwell> ryan-c: my logs say its been mentioned a couple times in #bitcoin-dev
18:11 < ryan-c> gmaxwell: not surprised, i should grep my logs
18:11 < ryan-c> (2^256-1)%N also has some action on it
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18:26 < OP_NULL> ryan-c: there's more interesting things to sight see in the blockchain if that's your thing. can you come up with a reason for a few tens of outputs spent to a script "OP_IFDUP OP_IF OP_2SWAP OP_VERIFY OP_2OVER OP_DEPTH"?
18:27 < ryan-c> wtf is OP_DEPTH?
18:27 < gmaxwell> OP_NULL: I know the reason for that, if you were asking instead of posing a puzzle.
18:27 < OP_NULL> gmaxwell: it's a puzzle, I know the answer.
18:28 < OP_NULL> ryan-c: pushes the number of items in the stack, to the stack.
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18:33 < ryan-c> OP_NULL: well, OP_IF without OP_ENDIF is invalid, most of the opcodes are in the ascii text range though....
18:33 < tacotime> ryan-c: you're on the right track.
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18:33 < kefkius> Don't tell me! I'm trying to work through it
18:33 < tacotime> :)
18:35 < ryan-c> okay, well i can read it
18:36 < ryan-c> OP_NULL: I spend a disturbing amount of time looking at stuff that's hex encoded.
18:36 < manaka> do zero knowledge makes sense in order to prove the identities of peers in a dht?
18:36 < manaka> zkp
18:37 < tacotime> ryan-c: wanna know why it's there?
18:37 < OP_NULL> ryan-c: as you no doubt found out, it decodes to a literal ascii "script". it came from a typo in P2Pool.
18:37 < tacotime> yeah. heh.
18:37 < ryan-c> lol
18:37 < ryan-c> this is what testnet is for
18:37  * kefkius pretends he was about to say that
18:38 < ryan-c> kefkius: If it makes you feel better, I play in a lot of CTFs
18:38 < ryan-c> by this time i can often tell what sort of data something is just by looking at the hex or base64 encoded version
18:39 < tacotime> it's almost as fun as the time mtgox sent 2609 bitcoins to OP_DUP OP_HASH160 0 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG
18:39 < OP_NULL> there's more fun if you go looking. for example, there's 2700 BTC with an output script of OP_DUP OP_HASH160 0 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG. one can only assume one of Mt Gox's functions returned false.
18:39 < ryan-c> lol
18:39 < tacotime> jinx :)
18:39 < kefkius> OK I at least know what that p2pkh does
18:39 < ryan-c> I found one a little earlier that just wanted 3 3 on the stack
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22:19 < phantomcircuit> ryan-c, with pool stuff there is often no reason to use testnet
22:20 < phantomcircuit> if you happen to find a valid network block with your beta quality pool software
22:20 < phantomcircuit> maybe you get lucky and it's valid
22:20 < phantomcircuit> or you're using testnet and horray testnet coins
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22:21 < phantomcircuit> i actually found valid blocks with alpha quality software unexpectedly
22:21 < phantomcircuit> (two of them!)
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