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07:07 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/gavinandresen/
07:07 < nsh> oh, nice one kanzure :)
07:08 < nsh> are you transcribing any more cool-things-wot-i-missed?
07:08 < kanzure> dunno, i'm skeptical of typing this jeremy allaire stuff
07:08 < kanzure> like, went from core development to this ceotalk.. what's going on here.
07:08 < kanzure> ( http://blog.circle.com/2015/02/10/devcore-livestream/ )
07:09 < kanzure> gavinandresen: sorry for not capturing all of that. i only caught last few minutes :(.
07:09 < fanquake> kanzure Any chance you have a transcript/video of the talk sipa gave a few days ago?
07:09 < kanzure> nope
07:10 < kanzure> you people need to tell me about these things if you want transcripts
07:10  * nsh nods
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07:10 < nsh> i'm sure if you find the right thing to rotate, sipa will rewind and give it again
07:10 < kanzure> "evolve into a more distributed cloud butt"
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07:10 < kanzure> yeah i'm not typing this...
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07:11 < fanquake> are we even talking bitcoin?
07:11 < fanquake> *is he
07:11 < kanzure> what a waste of time. this is supposed to be for core developers? hilarious
07:11 < nsh> not explicitly. fiduciary trust something. oh god, microsoft DCOM
07:11 < fanquake> JAVA in the browser
07:12 < nsh> java in the browser. i think we've covering what definitely didn't work
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07:12 < kanzure> he doesn't understand why netscape "died off"
07:14 < fanquake> Did the audience members have to pay to be there?
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07:18 < nsh> this isn't entirely without merit, between buzzphrases
07:18 < nsh> hi zooko
07:19 < fanquake> Yea, guess I’ll have to wait until 11.45
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07:30 < kanzure> meh.... http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/
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07:39 < instagibbs> Circle is paying for the event... they get to talk :P
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07:48 < instagibbs> oh rivetz guy
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07:59 < kanzure> meh i typed a bit of that http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/
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08:40 < fanquake> digging this music
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09:03 < Zouppen> do you have any suggestions for public key crypto which is easy to do in modern web browsers? encryption is done at browser in this case (decryption will be server-side)
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09:04 < Zouppen> it doesn't need to be ECDSA related, although it would be useful if we can use bitcoin addresses as public part of the key
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09:05 < MRL-Relay> [tacotime] I mean... I think you can do everything in JS for secp256k1, whether or not that's a good idea is a whole different story.
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09:29 < justanotheruser> Zouppen: web wallets can't be secure by design, but there is webcrypto
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09:34 < Zouppen> justanotheruser: do you mean w3c web cryptography api?
09:35 < justanotheruser> Zouppen: yes
09:37 < Zouppen> seems pretty supported for my suprise http://caniuse.com/#feat=cryptography
09:37 < Zouppen> *surprise
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09:45 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/research-and-development-goals/
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09:49 < kanzure> so i think that this current presentation is disingenious... building on a third-party api is pointless. you might as well not use bitcoin. simplified payment verification still counts, but whatever.
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09:53 < kanzure> "we have to get over the learning curve" this seems dangerous.. just replacing bitcoind with a third party api is not compelling.
09:56 < kanzure> can someone ping me when development stuff is being streamed and if you want a transcript? kthx
09:56 < kanzure> (from http://blog.circle.com/2015/02/10/devcore-livestream/ )
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10:08 < Zouppen> justanotheruser: yes, seems to do the trick, at least there is RSA-OAEP there which supports asymmetric encryption. http://www.w3.org/TR/WebCryptoAPI/#algorithm-overview
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10:08 < justanotheruser> Zouppen: good. Any further discussion probably belongs in ##crypto
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10:10 < Zouppen> okay. you are true that this wasn't very bitcoin specific question so apologies for that and thanks for suggesting the w3c crypto api
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11:30 < kanzure> i wonder if very long delays in blockchain sync would be useful if you wanted to perform human review of the transactions in the mean time (e.g. you were ont okay with instant relay)
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11:31 < kanzure> you could have tools to help you manually review the edge cases (since the vast majority are probably standard rule-following transactions that you had already configured your review analysis tool to be okay with)
11:31 < kanzure> oh right, delays aren't compatible with the racing
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