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I've been searching around bitcointalk, but I'm probably just using the wrong terminology. 15:29 -!- zwischenzug [~zwischenz@pool-108-51-197-41.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:32 < kanzure> e_0: you may be interested in the term "fork" 15:32 < kanzure> there's also been lots of words written regarding block size influencing block propagation and saturation time 15:33 -!- embicoin [~chatzilla@INTERFIBRA-37-25-40-160.CPEs.villena.interfibra.es] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 15:33 -!- OneNomos [~OneNomos@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/onenomos] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 < e_0> kanzure: I've read a few papers in that area, but I've yet to see any mention of adversarial delaying of blocks for the purposes of causing a fork and splitting the total mining power. 15:39 -!- TonyClif_ [~TonyClift@gateway-nat.fmrib.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 -!- damethos [~damethos@unaffiliated/damethos] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:43 -!- orik_ [~orik@75.149.169.53] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:43 -!- orik [~orik@75.149.169.53] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:43 -!- orik_ is now known as orik 15:53 < zooko> I'm not expert, e_0, but I haven't previously thought about that idea in much detail, and it seems like potentially a good attack. 15:54 < zooko> I think I've heard gmaxwell and others talking about similar things. 15:56 < kanzure> also block withholding 15:56 < e_0> I've had conversations about it with people in the past as well, I was just hoping someone wrote it first and I could give them credit. 15:57 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:58 < e_0> yeah, two 33% selfish miners cooking off would make for an interesting day in the blockchain. 15:59 -!- orik [~orik@75.149.169.53] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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