--- Log opened Sun May 10 00:00:07 2015 00:01 -!- Mably [Mably@unaffiliated/mably] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:05 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@82.131.207.82.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:05 -!- hktud0 [ncidsk@unaffiliated/fluffybunny] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08 -!- hktud0 [wq@unaffiliated/fluffybunny] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:12 < runeks> i support changing the bitcoin price 00:13 < runeks> but i can't find the relevant lines in the source code... 00:13 < sipa> lol 00:13 < runeks> hehe :) 00:15 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:16 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:20 -!- NkWsy [~nkwsy@c-67-175-120-88.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:21 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@82.131.207.82.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:22 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@82.131.207.82.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:23 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:25 -!- frankenm_ [~frankenmi@c-24-22-67-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@c-24-22-67-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:39 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39 -!- wallet421 [~wallet42@195.175.52.6] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:39 -!- wallet421 [~wallet42@195.175.52.6] has quit [Changing host] 00:39 -!- wallet421 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:39 -!- wallet421 is now known as wallet42 00:46 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@82.131.207.82.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:48 -!- gill3s [~gill3s@pat35-3-82-245-143-153.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:48 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@195.175.52.6] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:54 -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:56 -!- c0rw|away is now known as c0rw1n 00:57 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: oleganza] 00:58 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:59 -!- kompreni [~chejazi@c-98-207-250-30.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: kompreni] 01:02 -!- tromp_ [~tromp@ool-18be0b4d.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:04 -!- andy-logbot [~bitcoin--@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04 -!- andy-logbot [~bitcoin--@wpsoftware.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:04 * andy-logbot is logging 01:07 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:08 -!- trippysalmon [53a2cab6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.83.162.202.182] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:09 -!- gill3s [~gill3s@pat35-3-82-245-143-153.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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fluffypony> just make sure not to use flaot 02:31 < fluffypony> *float 02:33 -!- hashtagg_ [~hashtag@91.82.145.188.pool.invitel.hu] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:35 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:36 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@82.131.207.82.pool.invitel.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:43 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: oleganza] 02:44 -!- gill3s [~gill3s@pat35-3-82-245-143-153.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:47 -!- lclc [~lucas@unaffiliated/lclc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:50 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@c-24-22-67-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:54 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@c-24-22-67-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:08 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@gut75-6-88-174-43-212.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:11 -!- grandmaster [dansmith3@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-mntskvybovfpsxbu] has quit [Ping 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I don't know if this is possible with a DHT, other than by having two DHT's. 09:21 -!- PRab_ [~chatzilla@2601:4:4502:dc5f:8c78:5e9a:9b7a:6664] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:21 < dgenr8> Since inputs can be combined arbitrarily, a node might need to request history from the network to fully validate txes it is partailly responsible for. maybe this could be mitigated by limiting the # of inputs. 09:21 -!- Starduster [~guest@unaffiliated/starduster] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:22 -!- PRab [~chatzilla@2601:4:4502:dc5f:8c78:5e9a:9b7a:6664] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:22 -!- PRab_ is now known as PRab 09:23 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@c-24-22-67-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:24 -!- Starduster_ [~guest@unaffiliated/starduster] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26 < afk11> hi all. 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