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03:03 < stevenroose> i have a question
03:04 < stevenroose> I believe that the limit of keys in an m of n transaction was something like 15, right?
03:04 < stevenroose> let me check
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03:05 < stevenroose> 16 it is
03:05 < stevenroose> is there a way to let say 100 private keys control some funds?
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03:48 < fluffypony> stevenroose: yes, split the funds up into 7 groups
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04:41 < stevenroose> fluffypony, well, if I want 90 of 100 sig
04:41 < stevenroose> is that possible by splitting?
04:43 < antanst> stevenroose: you can use shamir's secret
04:45 < gmaxwell> antanst: thats not a multisignature; you have to trust the device they're reassembled on completely; if you could do that.. why bother splitting? just leave your keys there.
04:46 < stonecoldpat> i was gonna say shamir's secret as well, but IIRC, once the 90 people agree to produce the key required to do the signature - then any one of them can spend the coins whatever way they want
04:46 < antanst> gmaxwell: You've got a point
04:47 < gmaxwell> stevenroose: assuming you're asking for a multisignature, a 90 of 100 is not really feasable today; but see my recent talk from the SF meetup where I talk a bit about a scheme that is basically ideal for 90 of 100.
04:49 < gmaxwell> sipa: intel just started shipping chips with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_ADX
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05:02 < kanzure> phantomcircuit: he should just start signing stuff as jgarzik instead
05:03 < kanzure> stevenroose: the talk he is talking about is http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-bitcoin-selection-cryptography/
05:05 < stevenroose> thanks, kanzure
05:05 < stevenroose> what are the odds of this becoming possible in bitcoin in the future?
05:11 < kanzure> manykey thresholds? i'd say high. schnorr stuff seems to work.
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06:38 < stevenroose> especially the polychecksig sounded promising
06:39 < stevenroose> gmaxwell, any news on that?
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08:23 < zooko> Are there any real prediction markets or derivatives markets in cryptocurrencies yet?
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09:01 < sl01> zooko: maybe bitshares? not sure if that would count
09:02 < andytoshi> there is truthcoin but that is a long way away from being "real"
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09:14 < stonecoldpat> does anyone know of a statistic site like p2sh.info that shows the total number of bitcoins kept using pay to pubkey hash? p.s. whoever made the p2sh one did a good job, it looks really nice
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09:16 < sipa> stonecoldpat: sorry for not responding yet to your mail
09:17 < sipa> i'll be on vacation the next two weeks
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09:17 < stonecoldpat> oh no worries i thought you had been
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09:24 < williamdunne> stevenroose: For 90 of 100 sig you could have 15 servers doing 13 of 15 multisig and have 6-7 users per server. Build out signing mechanism that way.
09:24 < williamdunne> Really hacky way and would require a fair amount of work, but just a thought
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