--- Log opened Sun Sep 06 00:00:02 2015
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00:11 < kang_> phantomcircuit: Is it bad because it is hard to do?
00:15 < GreenIsMyPepper> kang_: synchronized mempools is bad because it encourages everyone to have the same mempool policy, there are centralization and some fungibility risks to consider as a result
00:15 < GreenIsMyPepper> s/bad/potentially problematic/
00:19 < CodeShark> separation between the consensus layer and peer services seems like a generally good architectural principle :)
00:20 < CodeShark> the cryptographic commitment structures shouldn't really care about how messages get propagated on the network
00:21 < CodeShark> there should be no provisions for preserving order or having the same view of the network
00:21 < CodeShark> I mean, preserving order of message propagation
00:21 < CodeShark> because none of this stuff is ultimately enforceable by the consensus layer
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00:26 < CodeShark> it is always possible to send transactions directly to miners to include in blocks
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00:30 < CodeShark> also, it limits our ablity to upgrade the networking protocols themselves
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00:54 < CodeShark> i,e, it might turn out that onion-routing transactions directly to miners is more efficient than flooding :)
00:56 < CodeShark> and possibly more private as well
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01:05 < moa> CodeShark and may open up opportunities for pay-per-routing models using bitcoin payment channels
01:06 < CodeShark> indeed
01:06 < CodeShark> so it might also go some ways towards solving the incentives issues and preventing DoS in a more economically sensible manner
01:07 < CodeShark> and it opens up the door to directly negotiating fees with miners, perhaps
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23:07 < petertod1> kanzure: actually yes! I've got a rather trippy looking page in my notebook somewhere on that
23:07 < kanzure> thank you, lazyweb
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23:08 < kanzure> dunno why i needed that at the time, but it seems like it would be useful because transaction graphs
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