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It would be best if instead of an absolute value there was a range. 09:45 < erasmospunk> i.e. the total amount is in range of [0.9, 1.1]btc but cannot know the specific UTXOs 09:47 < erasmospunk> The use case is a wallet proving the balance on a specific height, without revealing the public keys 09:49 < erasmospunk> I think this is impossible, just wanted to check with the wizards 09:52 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:53 -!- maraoz [~maraoz@c-73-15-187-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:53 -!- Guest26436 [~guest@5ED11658.cm-7-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:54 -!- mkarrer_ [~mkarrer@165.Red-83-55-152.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:57 < nwilcox> Proving only a minimum bound might be useful and have better privacy properties. 09:57 -!- Oizopower [uid19103@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dpccpqxxzuifexjm] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:58 -!- priidu 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