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00:40 < bramc> Looks like I missed out on some *fascinating* political discussions while I was gone.
00:42 < bramc> The -wizards line on that stuff is fairly consistent: XT is a bad idea but we aren't interested in discussing it much in this channel, because it's technically uninteresting. The trading price of bitcoin is not a subject of particular interest to us, caveat emptor.
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01:11 < fluffypony> bramc: I don't think that the issue is with an alternate implementation, per se, after all there's Luke-Jr's patchset and Conformal's btcd that all live in reasonable harmony with Core
01:12 < fluffypony> but even btcd presents a negligible fork risk by comparison
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01:18 < wumpus> there's not problem with alternative implementations, there is a problem with deliberately using different validation rules in an attempt to create division and fork of part of the nodes from the chain
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01:18 < fluffypony> ^^
01:19 < wumpus> it is interesting in that it is a kind of attack on the network and usability of the system, but apart from the the political discussion isn't -wizards material
01:19 < wumpus> apart from that*
01:20 < fluffypony> wumpus: at the same time I do think that an aspect that is of interest to some wizards, to me at least, are the technical effects felt from the socio-political events
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01:41 < phantomcircuit> wumpus, i dont even care about that; it's calling it bitcoin and trying to convince people to treat it as equal that's the problem
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04:19 < kanzure> would be good to list out some good reasons to not care about market price (e.g., "because it's epistemologically irrelevant") as upfront immunity to future intrusion in that direction
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04:20 < Taek> although not a direct reason, discussions related to price often decay into being high-noise and heavy speculation very quickly.
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05:02 < JackH> where can we grab some testnet coins?
05:03 < JackH> I need to test some stuff, anyone have a good testnet faucet on hand?
05:03 < Taek> #bitcoin
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05:39 < nsh> graph isomorphism possibly proven to be quasipolynomial solvable: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2521
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05:40 < nsh> .tw https://twitter.com/rrwilliams/status/661738595447771136
05:40 < yoleaux> TCS Rumor of The Year: the UChicago Theory Seminar just announced an upcoming talk by Babai: Graph Isomorphism is in quasi-poly-time. WHAT! (@rrwilliams)
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