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A 32-bit proof can 05:29 < nsh> cover a range of 42.94967296 BTC with 1e-8 precision, or 429.4967296 05:29 < nsh> BTC with 1e-7 precision, and so on. My implementation is able to verify 05:29 < nsh> over 1300 32-bit range proofs per second on an i7-4770R, and there are 05:29 < nsh> many performance optimizations still possible. 05:29 < nsh> -- https://people.xiph.org/~greg/confidential_values.txt 05:31 < nsh> (so it depends on how many values in the transaction to blind, but most of the space is reclaimed as a cryptographically-secure messaging channel thanks to moonmathemagics) 05:31 -!- BCBot [~BCBot@42.90.62.81.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33 < nsh> also: 05:33 < nsh> -- 05:33 < nsh> In Elements, the range proofs are only required in cases where there are 05:33 < nsh> multiple confidential value outputs (including fees). Transactions that 05:33 < nsh> merge multiple confidential amounts into a single output do not need range 05:33 < nsh> proofs since the fact that all the inputs were in range is sufficient. 05:33 < nsh> -- 05:35 < MaxSan_> Do you have an example of what the addresses look like? 05:36 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@unaffiliated/debruyne] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:36 < MaxSan_> I dont see an example in the paper 05:38 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:39 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-109-203.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:39 -!- saucybood [~bbroad@cpe-174-109-213-209.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:41 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:42 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-18be0bd8.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:43 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 05:43 -!- c0rw1n 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