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[~voxelot@2605:e000:1301:8153:fe4:b8e7:e1de:a55e] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:43 < NewLiberty> https://www.elementsproject.org/elements/schnorr-signatures/ 10:49 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:52 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:01 -!- JackH [~Jack@79-73-185-113.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01 < instagibbs> NewLiberty, heh. didnt even knew we had that page. Gotta get familiar with company literature 11:02 < instagibbs> this is for multisig schnorr: https://github.com/sipa/secp256k1/blob/schnorrstages2/src/modules/schnorr/schnorr.md 11:12 -!- gielbier [~giel____@a149043.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:12 -!- gielbier [~giel____@a149043.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Changing host] 11:12 -!- gielbier [~giel____@unaffiliated/gielbier] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:18 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:19 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:22 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:28 -!- voxelot_ [~voxelot@2605:e000:1301:8153:fe4:b8e7:e1de:a55e] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:29 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@209.65.105.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:30 < wallet42> so schnorr is not Elliptic curves? 11:33 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:35 < Alanius> you can instantiate schnorr with elliptic curves, but also with finite fields 11:40 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@cpe-174-97-254-80.ma.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:44 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:46 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:48 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:52 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.46.14.122] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:58 -!- hashtag [~hashtag@174.97.254.80] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:10 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:13 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:13 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@h88-150-240-8.host.redstation.co.uk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:24 -!- voxelot_ [~voxelot@2605:e000:1301:8153:fe4:b8e7:e1de:a55e] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:25 -!- voxelot_ [~voxelot@2605:e000:1301:8153:fe4:b8e7:e1de:a55e] has quit [Client Quit] 12:29 -!- ManfredMacx [~hyperion@93-139-14-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:31 -!- BonyM [~BonyM-I@ua-83-227-211-4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:36 -!- c-cex-yuriy [uid76808@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fgzsfgrfhbakorao] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:36 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:36 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@209.65.105.133] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:39 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:57 -!- dnaleor [~dnaleor@78-23-74-78.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:59 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@209.65.105.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:04 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:07 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@204.28.124.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:13 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@209.65.105.133] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:14 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:15 < bsm1175321> instagibbs: Sorry late to the conversation, I've been out of town. I have read the DECOR+ paper, it's very similar to GHOST and Ethereum's variant. Generally, I'm opposed to paying uncles that contain double-spends, because it makes double-spending easier. katu kind of summed up my view of it as well... 13:16 < bsm1175321> Although, I think striving for faster block times is a VERY important goal. UI/UX of crypto-currencies is horrible because of the speed, and we need to fix that if they're going to be used for anything other than a behind-the-scenes settlement layer. 13:16 < bsm1175321> (FWIW, braids will achieve < 1s effective block times) 13:17 -!- giel__ [~giel____@a149043.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:18 < bsm1175321> I don't like DECOR or GHOST because they don't remove the fundamental problem: the race condition that exists between all miners who do not have zero latency connections. 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