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10:37 < bsm117532> Taek, adam3us: what are you guys getting at with pubkey retrieval?  The v parameter is omitted in DER-encoded signatures, but it only has 2 possible values.  So any signature only has two possible pubkeys, derivable from the signature.  So the pubkey *is* generally retrievable from a signature.
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10:39 < bsm117532> I've actually built an authentication system (ab)using this fact...
10:40 < nsh> ( <adam3us> an nsa guy twiddled with it enough claim no patent coverage and the resulting more complicated less flexible result was dsa  # the are more cynical reasons for the NSA to make something more complicated and less flexible (and more fragile) other than patent considerations, sadly )
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10:46 < sipa> bsm117532: bitcoin message signatures use that too
10:46 < sipa> well, they do include the recovery id parameter
10:47 < nsh> Taek, when you say "doomsday stuff" do you mean QC retroactively breaks ECC type scenarios or something more proximate?
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13:00 < Taek> nsh: I do mean ECDSA is broken, either algorithmically or QC, or some other sort of adjustment to Bitcoin's fundamental security assumptions
13:01  * nsh nods
13:02 < nsh> pubkey hashes are preferable if there is no cost to aggregation. beyond that, it's a nontrivial cost:benefit analysis
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