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quit [Quit: Bye] 07:49 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@ip-64-134-223-240.public.wayport.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:50 -!- zooko [~user@209.49.240.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:50 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:52 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@ip-64-134-223-240.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:55 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:55 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:57 -!- raedah [~x@172.58.41.91] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:02 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@ip-64-134-223-240.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07 -!- jiggalator [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:13 < maaku> kanzure: http://tendermint.com/blog/critique-merkle-dao-democracy/ 08:14 < kanzure> so this is what merkle is up to? hmph... freitas should hit him over the head with a broom. 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some small number of folks, if even then; or the null hypothesis should be "politics is a bad idea" or something). 08:28 < kanzure> and there is no good reason to assume that crowds are better at maintaining mission integrity... bleh. 08:28 < pigeons> but they "swarm"!! 08:30 -!- ozanyurt_ [~ozanyurt@78.185.248.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30 -!- ozanyurt [~ozanyurt@78.185.248.35] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:33 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@c-50-159-126-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:38 -!- atgreen [~green@209.171.88.97] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:40 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@c-50-159-126-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:40 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@67-5-211-132.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:44 -!- frankenmint [~frankenmi@67-5-211-132.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:46 -!- AusteritySucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 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