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jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@2a01:4f8:200:7025::2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:51 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@unaffiliated/debruyne] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:54 -!- Alopex [~bitcoin@cyber.dealing.ninja] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:59 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@185.103.96.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:00 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:f599:15dd:d016:1a44] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:03 -!- x0f_ [~x0f@thebroadlands3.pndsl.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06 -!- MaxSan_ [~one@91.214.169.69] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:09 -!- rdponticelli [~quassel@190.188.197.14] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:18 < fluffypony> http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/46220/are-there-alternatives-to-gitian 04:20 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@2a01:4f8:200:7025::2] has quit [Changing host] 04:20 -!- jonasschnelli [~jonasschn@unaffiliated/jonasschnelli] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:33 -!- pro [~pro@unaffiliated/pro] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:38 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:43 < JackH> how long before CSV activates? 04:44 < Ylbam> already "locked in", activates in 684 blocks, about 4.7 days 04:44 < Ylbam> at next difficulty adjustment 04:50 -!- belcher [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:57 -!- rusty2 [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:08 -!- qadaemon [~textual@c-73-45-141-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:09 -!- qadaemon [~textual@c-73-45-141-214.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:15 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:20 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@unaffiliated/debruyne] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:34 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:34 -!- nonaTure [~nonaTure@bitcubator-gw.boh1-r2.syseleven.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:37 -!- Burrito [~Burrito@unaffiliated/burrito] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:48 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:02 < kanzure> "How to leak a secret" https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/RST01.pdf 06:02 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/One-out-of-many%20proofs:%20or%20how%20to%20leak%20a%20secret%20and%20spend%20a%20coin.pdf 06:03 -!- asux [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:04 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:15 < kanzure> https://bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/06/extracting-qualcomms-keymaster-keys.html 06:17 -!- dEBRUYNE [~dEBRUYNE@unaffiliated/debruyne] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:31 < kanzure> what? https://twitter.com/FakeIACR 06:33 < bsm117532> Hahaaa https://twitter.com/FakeIACR/status/740895914970222592 06:35 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 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SBRL will prevent the use of standards from compromised Standardization Bodies. 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fractex ] [ nba_btchip ] 16:11 [ [ace]_ ] [ freekevin ] [ neha ] 16:11 [ [d__d] ] [ gabridome ] [ nephyrin` ] 16:11 [ [Derek] ] [ ggreer ] [ nickler ] 16:11 [ _whitelogger_ ] [ ghtdak ] [ nicolagreco ] 16:11 [ a5m0_ ] [ giel__ ] [ Nightwolf ] 16:11 [ AaronvanW ] [ gigq ] [ Noice_ ] 16:11 [ adam3us ] [ Giszmo ] [ Noldorin ] 16:11 [ adamg ] [ gnusha ] [ nsh ] 16:11 [ adams__ ] [ go1111111 ] [ null_radix ] 16:11 [ adlai ] [ GreenIsMyPepper] [ nullfxn ] 16:11 [ aem ] [ gribble ] [ optimator_ ] 16:11 [ afk11 ] [ grubles ] [ othe ] 16:11 [ aj_ ] [ Guest88671 ] [ otoburb_ ] 16:11 [ akoko ] [ gwillen ] [ OxADADA ] 16:11 [ Alanius ] [ harrow ] [ PaulCapestany ] 16:11 [ alexkuck____ ] [ hashtagg ] [ petertodd ] 16:11 [ alferz ] [ helo ] [ phantomcircuit ] 16:11 [ Alopex ] [ henrytill ] [ pigeons ] 16:11 [ amiller_ ] [ hexis ] [ Piper-Off ] 16:11 [ Anduck ] [ humd1ng3r ] [ poggy_ ] 16:11 [ Aranjedeath ] [ huseby ] [ PRab ] 16:11 [ artifexd ] [ ibrightly ] [ pro ] 16:11 [ arubi ] [ iddo ] [ prosodyContexte] 16:11 [ asoltys ] [ Inaltoasinistra] [ PsychoticBoy ] 16:11 [ aspect_ ] [ instagibbs ] [ qawap_ ] 16:11 [ austerity_sucks ] [ Iriez ] [ qpm ] 16:11 [ bassguitarman ] [ isis ] [ r0ach ] 16:11 [ belcher ] [ Jaamg ] [ rasengan ] 16:11 [ berndj ] [ JackH ] [ RedEmerald_ ] 16:11 [ bertani ] [ jaromil ] [ retrohacker ] 16:11 [ bildramer ] [ jbenet ] [ roasbeef ] 16:11 [ binaryatrocity ] [ jeremyrubin ] [ robmyers ] 16:11 [ binaryFate ] [ jessepollak ] [ runeks ] 16:11 [ binns ] [ jl2012 ] [ ryan-c ] 16:11 [ bitjedi ] [ jlyndon ] [ SirJacket ] 16:11 [ blkdb ] [ johntramp ] [ sixblindmice ] 16:11 [ BlueMatt ] [ jonasschnelli ] [ slackircbridge1] 16:11 [ BonyM ] [ jouke ] [ smooth ] 16:11 [ brand0 ] [ jron ] [ so ] 16:11 [ btcdrak ] [ jtremback_ ] [ Sosumi ] 16:11 [ Burrito ] [ justanotheruser] [ sparetire_ ] 16:11 [ bustd_soket ] [ K1773R ] [ spinza ] 16:11 [ buZz ] [ kaptah ] [ Starduster ] 16:11 [ c0rw1n ] [ katu_ ] [ starsoccer ] 16:11 [ c0rw1n- ] [ Keefe ] [ stevenroose ] 16:11 [ catcow ] [ keesh ] [ stqism ] 16:11 [ catern ] [ kinlo ] [ STRML ] 16:11 [ cfields ] [ koshii ] [ superkuh ] 16:11 [ chjj ] [ kumavis ] [ TD-Linux ] 16:11 [ Chris_Stewart_5 ] [ l0rdPE ] [ Tenhi ] 16:11 [ CodeShark ] [ LeMiner ] [ TheSeven ] 16:11 [ comboy ] [ Lightsword ] [ thrasher` ] 16:11 [ copumpkin ] [ livegnik ] [ Tiraspol ] 16:11 [ Cory ] [ liviud ] [ trippysa1mon ] 16:11 [ coryfields ] [ Logicwax ] [ tucenaber ] 16:11 [ crescendo ] [ luke-jr ] [ unlord ] 16:11 [ CryptoAi ] [ luny ] [ vdo ] 16:11 [ cyphase ] [ Lysanders ] [ vyvojar ] 16:11 [ da2ce7 ] [ maaku ] [ wallet42 ] 16:11 [ da2ce7_mobile ] [ Madars ] [ wangchun ] 16:11 [ dabura667 ] [ malte ] [ warren ] 16:11 [ Darknes ] [ mappum ] [ waxwing ] 16:11 [ davec_ ] [ MaxSan_1 ] [ whphhg ] 16:11 [ devrandom ] [ mdavid613 ] [ windsok ] 16:11 [ dgenr8 ] [ Meeh_ ] [ wizkid057 ] 16:11 [ digitalmagus ] [ metric ] [ wpalczynski ] 16:11 [ dnaleor ] [ meZee ] [ wumpus ] 16:11 [ DougieBot5000 ] [ mhanne ] [ Xe ] 16:11 [ droark ] [ midnightmagic ] [ xeon-enouf ] 16:11 [ e0 ] [ mkarrer_ ] [ yang ] 16:11 [ edvorg ] [ mn3monic ] [ ybit ] 16:11 [ Eliel_ ] [ MoALTz ] [ Ylbam ] 16:11 [ Emcy ] [ morcos ] [ yokwe ] 16:11 [ eragmus ] [ mountaingoat ] [ yoleaux ] 16:11 [ espes ] [ mr_burdell ] [ yorick ] 16:11 [ execute ] [ MRL-Relay ] [ zmanian__ ] 16:11 [ Expanse ] [ Muis ] [ zooko ] 16:11 [ Fistful_of_Coins] [ musalbas ] [ zxzzt ] 16:11 [ fluffypony ] [ Myagui ] 16:11 [ forrestv ] [ nanotube ] 16:11 -!- Irssi: #bitcoin-wizards: Total of 241 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 240 normal] 16:11 -!- Channel #bitcoin-wizards created Mon Feb 25 23:24:47 2013 16:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #bitcoin-wizards was synced in 17 secs 16:14 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@unaffiliated/jrayhawk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:17 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/gnusha] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:22 -!- gnusha [~gnusha@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/gnusha] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:22 -!- Topic for #bitcoin-wizards: This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja 16:22 -!- Topic set by sipa [~pw@unaffiliated/sipa1024] [Thu Oct 29 17:53:34 2015] 16:22 [Users #bitcoin-wizards] 16:22 [@ChanServ ] [ fractex ] [ nanotube ] 16:22 [ [ace]_ ] [ freekevin ] [ nba_btchip ] 16:22 [ [d__d] ] [ gabridome ] [ neha ] 16:22 [ [Derek] ] [ ggreer ] [ nephyrin` ] 16:22 [ _whitelogger_ ] [ ghtdak ] [ nickler ] 16:22 [ a5m0_ ] [ giel__ ] [ nicolagreco ] 16:22 [ AaronvanW ] [ gigq ] [ Nightwolf ] 16:22 [ adam3us ] [ Giszmo ] [ Noice_ ] 16:22 [ adamg ] [ gnusha ] [ Noldorin ] 16:22 [ adams__ ] [ go1111111 ] [ nsh ] 16:22 [ adlai ] [ GreenIsMyPepper] [ null_radix ] 16:22 [ aem ] [ gribble ] [ nullfxn ] 16:22 [ afk11 ] [ grubles ] [ optimator_ ] 16:22 [ aj_ ] [ Guest88671 ] [ othe ] 16:22 [ akoko ] [ gwillen ] [ otoburb_ ] 16:22 [ Alanius ] [ harrow ] [ OxADADA ] 16:22 [ alexkuck____ ] [ hashtagg ] [ PaulCapestany ] 16:22 [ alferz ] [ helo ] [ petertodd ] 16:22 [ Alopex ] [ henrytill ] [ phantomcircuit ] 16:22 [ amiller_ ] [ hexis ] [ pigeons ] 16:22 [ Anduck ] [ humd1ng3r ] [ Piper-Off ] 16:22 [ Aranjedeath ] [ huseby ] [ poggy_ ] 16:22 [ artifexd ] [ ibrightly ] [ PRab ] 16:22 [ arubi ] [ iddo ] [ pro ] 16:22 [ asoltys ] [ Inaltoasinistra] [ prosodyContexte] 16:22 [ aspect_ ] [ instagibbs ] [ PsychoticBoy ] 16:22 [ austerity_sucks ] [ Iriez ] [ qawap_ ] 16:22 [ bassguitarman ] [ isis ] [ qpm ] 16:22 [ belcher ] [ Jaamg ] [ r0ach ] 16:22 [ berndj ] [ JackH ] [ rasengan ] 16:22 [ bertani ] [ jaromil ] [ RedEmerald_ ] 16:22 [ bildramer ] [ jbenet ] [ retrohacker ] 16:22 [ binaryatrocity ] [ jeremyrubin ] [ roasbeef ] 16:22 [ binaryFate ] [ jessepollak ] [ robmyers ] 16:22 [ binns ] [ jl2012 ] [ runeks ] 16:22 [ bitjedi ] [ jlyndon ] [ ryan-c ] 16:22 [ blkdb ] [ johntramp ] [ SirJacket ] 16:22 [ BlueMatt ] [ jonasschnelli ] [ sixblindmice ] 16:22 [ BonyM ] [ jouke ] [ slackircbridge1] 16:22 [ brand0 ] [ jrayhawk ] [ smooth ] 16:22 [ btcdrak ] [ jron ] [ so ] 16:22 [ Burrito ] [ jtremback_ ] [ Sosumi ] 16:22 [ bustd_soket ] [ justanotheruser] [ sparetire_ ] 16:22 [ buZz ] [ K1773R ] [ spinza ] 16:22 [ c0rw1n ] [ kaptah ] [ Starduster ] 16:22 [ c0rw1n- ] [ katu_ ] [ starsoccer ] 16:22 [ catcow ] [ Keefe ] [ stevenroose ] 16:22 [ catern ] [ keesh ] [ stqism ] 16:22 [ cfields ] [ kinlo ] [ STRML ] 16:22 [ chjj ] [ koshii ] [ superkuh ] 16:22 [ Chris_Stewart_5 ] [ kumavis ] [ TD-Linux ] 16:22 [ CodeShark ] [ l0rdPE ] [ Tenhi ] 16:22 [ comboy ] [ LeMiner ] [ TheSeven ] 16:22 [ copumpkin ] [ Lightsword ] [ thrasher` ] 16:22 [ Cory ] [ livegnik ] [ Tiraspol ] 16:22 [ coryfields ] [ liviud ] [ trippysa1mon ] 16:22 [ crescendo ] [ Logicwax ] [ tucenaber ] 16:22 [ CryptoAi ] [ luke-jr ] [ unlord ] 16:22 [ cyphase ] [ luny ] [ vdo ] 16:22 [ da2ce7 ] [ Lysanders ] [ vyvojar ] 16:22 [ da2ce7_mobile ] [ maaku ] [ wallet42 ] 16:22 [ dabura667 ] [ Madars ] [ wangchun ] 16:22 [ Darknes ] [ malte ] [ warren ] 16:22 [ davec_ ] [ mappum ] [ waxwing ] 16:22 [ devrandom ] [ MaxSan_1 ] [ whphhg ] 16:22 [ dgenr8 ] [ mdavid613 ] [ windsok ] 16:22 [ digitalmagus ] [ Meeh_ ] [ wizkid057 ] 16:22 [ dnaleor ] [ metric ] [ wpalczynski ] 16:22 [ DougieBot5000 ] [ meZee ] [ wumpus ] 16:22 [ droark ] [ mhanne ] [ Xe ] 16:22 [ e0 ] [ midnightmagic ] [ xeon-enouf ] 16:22 [ edvorg ] [ mkarrer_ ] [ yang ] 16:22 [ Eliel_ ] [ mn3monic ] [ Ylbam ] 16:22 [ Emcy ] [ MoALTz ] [ yokwe ] 16:22 [ eragmus ] [ morcos ] [ yoleaux ] 16:22 [ espes ] [ mountaingoat ] [ yorick ] 16:22 [ execute ] [ mr_burdell ] [ zmanian__ ] 16:22 [ Expanse ] [ MRL-Relay ] [ zooko ] 16:22 [ Fistful_of_Coins] [ Muis ] [ zxzzt ] 16:22 [ fluffypony ] [ musalbas ] 16:22 [ forrestv ] [ Myagui ] 16:22 -!- Irssi: #bitcoin-wizards: Total of 241 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 240 normal] 16:22 -!- Channel #bitcoin-wizards created Mon Feb 25 23:24:47 2013 16:22 -!- 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Am I missing something? 20:14 -!- rusty2 is now known as rusty 20:15 < kanzure> s/bitcoin/? 20:17 < rusty> kanzure: oops... yeah, two conversations at once, that got smerged. s/bitcoin/bitlength/. :) I guess you can still extend if that's valid data, though. 20:23 < bsm117532> kanzure I thought this was exactly why satoshi used *double* sha256? 20:30 -!- adiabat [~tx@159.203.193.74] has left #bitcoin-wizards [] 20:34 < zooko> rusty: that's "Merkle-Damgård strengthening" and it's not good enough to prevent length-extension attacks. 20:44 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:46 < rusty> zooko: you mean you can extend after the bitlength, right? I guess you'd need to prepend the length to make this work, and that has other issues. 20:49 < rusty> bsm117532: I've heard that theory before, but don't understand it. Perhaps there was a concern that some future partial weakness in SHA could deconstruct the hash enough to weaken the PoW? 20:50 < katu_> i can't readily imagine how. all you can do with le is append, which helps you add data to a commitment (typically secret in hmac-like construct) 20:50 < katu_> theres nothing of the sorts in bitcoin afaik 20:52 -!- veleiro [~veleiro@fsf/member/veleiro] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:52 < Taek> from what I've gathered, Satoshi was not an amazing cryptographer, he may have done that out of paranoia 20:55 < katu_> well, his prudence did pay off, especially in relation to SAT mining 20:56 -!- Burrito [~Burrito@unaffiliated/burrito] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:56 < zooko> Satoshi probably got it from Ferguson and Schneier's book "Practical Cryptography" / "Cryptography Engineering". 20:56 < katu_> (ie simple means to double the number of rounds, without inventing non-standard hash function) 20:56 < zooko> We also used that construction, which F&S named "SHA256d", in Tahoe-LAFS. 21:02 -!- Adiabat [~tx@pool-108-7-251-201.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:03 < veleiro> if I want to commit a message to the 420001 block (halving day), any opinions that it will be quite full of people wanting to do the same thing? 21:12 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:14 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19 -!- afk11 [~afk11@109.255.154.81] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:19 -!- afk11 [~afk11@109.255.154.81] has quit [Changing host] 21:19 -!- afk11 [~afk11@unaffiliated/afk11] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:35 -!- Adiabat [~tx@pool-108-7-251-201.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:36 -!- kwando-kwando [~kwando-kw@unaffiliated/kwando-kwando] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:39 < slackircbridge1> the reason double sha hash was used was to prevent a birthday attack that impacted sha1 21:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:45 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:45 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:52 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-95-217-105.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:52 -!- roidster is now known as Guest27612 21:52 -!- Guest27612 is now known as roidster 22:08 < phantomcircuit> rusty: remember that sha256d is used all over the place, not just in the PoW 22:08 < phantomcircuit> i assume that it was done simply as a means of hardening other uses 22:18 -!- alexkuck____ [sid117875@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yptajtmjiqpapfpf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:20 -!- zooko [~user@2601:281:8000:8387:5157:31b2:4a62:d545] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:23 -!- giel__ [~giel____@095-096-096-058.static.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24 -!- giel__ [~giel____@095-096-096-058.static.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:26 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:30 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:d8e2:7351:5188:423a] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:33 -!- Joseph__ [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:d8e2:7351:5188:423a] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:41 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmtosqfecaezoaiz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:16 -!- austerity_sucks [~Austerity@unaffiliated/austeritysucks] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:17 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: :)] 23:23 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:29 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@p2003004D2B377800D41D8788A1184CFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:31 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p2003004D2B377800AC9BCCA14258DFA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:32 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p2003004D2B3778008D55D11E498B5939.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:33 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@p2003004D2B377800D41D8788A1184CFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:38 -!- Inaltoas1nistra [~jonathan@88.147.121.77] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:40 -!- Inaltoasinistra [~jonathan@88-149-226-189.v4.ngi.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:43 -!- rubens_ [01d98a8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.217.138.142] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:48 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@71-95-217-105.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151103191810]] 23:59 -!- MoALTz [~no@78-11-183-124.static.ip.netia.com.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards --- Log closed Fri Jul 01 00:00:39 2016