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03:28 < kanzure> proof-of-rule-validation could work by having an audit log created based on the computation of the rules over the data, and then you transfer the audit log around and query the audit log to check for various consistency details.
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08:56 < slackircbridge1> <eragmus> https://twitter.com/tdryja/status/673045288962027524
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12:53 < kvnn> Hello everyone. I'm offering a 1BTC bounty for 3&4 here: https://github.com/drivechain-project/docs . Please let me know if you are interested.
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12:54 < helo> kvnn: fun :)
12:55 < kvnn> yeah! its kind of a big deal, IMO.
12:55 < kvnn> I wish that I could do it (maybe in a month or so of studying?)
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13:08 < katu_> kvnn: i can't clearly see if OP_CheckWorkScoreVerify is actually verifying PoW work or something else.
13:10 < kvnn> See #2 @ http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/drivechain-op-code/ , starting with "A new OP Code "OP_CheckWorkScoreVerify"..."
13:10 < katu_> yes im reading this
13:11 < katu_> i get the feeling this is "something else"
13:11 < katu_> in which case you dont need op code at all.
13:11 < kvnn> interesting
13:11 < kvnn> I wish I was more helpful.
13:12 < kvnn> This is above my pay grade, to be frank.
13:12 < katu_> nah, more likely i've too poor understanding of sidechains :)
13:13 < katu_> but my pedestrian idea is that an opcode would simply verify PoW proof according to sidechain rule, and would allow to create input "out of nothing" (up to the total of deposit "burned" into sidechain at any given time)
13:14 < katu_> however there are other approaches, like PoS-like mining, where mining as such actually happens on bitcoin chain by miners proving their amounts in coinjoin-like txes, which is suspect is what you're suggesting?
13:16 < katu_> i also see mentions of merged mining, at which point i'm completely lost :(
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13:18 < kvnn> katu_ This is Paul Sztorc's project, who would know how to respond. I'll try and get you a good response as soon as possible (I'm going to spend a few hours on it when I'm more free, and then will git his input).
13:19 < vyvojar> kvnn: my overall criticism - the description is too focused on technical implementation (which in, itself, is good), but the high level overview of _what_ actually allows the inward direction is muddled.
13:20 < vyvojar> is it PoW? is it PoS-like? does it simply depend on miner decision on bitcoin chain to include specially formatted sidechain tx? it's too muddled :) thanks!
13:21 < bsm1175321> |mcelrath@jane:~> git his input
13:21 < bsm1175321> git: 'his' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
13:21 < bsm1175321> Did you mean this?
13:21 < bsm1175321> 	theirs
13:21 < kvnn> vyvojar: thanks! will get back to you as well.
13:24 < vyvojar> katu_: I think, but not sure either: it seems to be the last case (actual bitcoin miners side-mine the special OP_ according sidechain rules), thus casting their vote in merged-miner fashion.
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