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05:21 < waxwing> gmaxwell: xiph.org's cert is signed by startcom, see http://www.percya.com/2016/09/wosigns-secret-purchase-of-startcom.html
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05:54 < midnightmagic> :-(
05:54 < midnightmagic> god dammit.
06:01 < waxwing> well, not the end of the world for such a site :) and there is no "ultimate" solution to this stuff, but the wosign issue is something worth knowing about i guess.
06:03 < proslogion> CHINA NUMBA ONE
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13:24 < runeks> Does OP_CHECKSIG accept both compressed and uncompressed pubkeys?
13:25 < sipa> yes
13:25 < sipa> #bitcoin
13:25 < runeks> Cool
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16:01 < andytoshi> how do i learn about pairing crypto? what curves are out standardized, and by whom? algebraically, what is the pairing eqn used? etc etc
16:02 < kanzure> pairing is described in http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/dan-boneh/
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16:03 < kanzure> "pairings in cryptography" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDOpzxpnTE&list=PLgO7JBj821uGZTXEXBLckChu70kl7Celh&index=21
16:04 < andytoshi> thanks very much kanzure
16:09 < katu> i found the thesis for pbc very good (even to understand basic EC as well) https://crypto.stanford.edu/pbc/thesis.html
16:09 < katu> also the pbc implementation is fairly nice, considering its academia code. pairings over virtually all curves and fields in one library.
16:10 < andytoshi> oh awesome, katu -- yeah, i've got PBC but i'm sorta poking at it blindly :)
16:10 < katu> oh, dan boneh is this guys adviser :) small world.
16:11 < andytoshi> i think he's also the L in BLS signatures which are one of the most common motivations for using pairings
16:11 < andytoshi> (and dan is the B :)
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16:18 < katu> dan is a bit too gung ho on speed. while bls is simple as a black box construct, safe supersingular curves are hell to implement. IMO BLS can't really compete on speed with schnorr, only compactness.
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16:23 < andytoshi> agreed (tho dan and his students are doing a lot of research on improving speed, which i'm glad about). BLS sigs can also be aggregated and save even more space
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21:16 < kanzure> andytoshi: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/simons-institute/pairing-cryptography/
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22:15 < andytoshi> oo, thanks kanzure. i actually listened all the way through this one (which is hard for me)
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