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08:11 < kanzure> if these guys are simply placing a hash in an OP_RETURN field, then why aren't they using a calendar server? https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/blockcerts-an-open-infrastructure-for-academic-credentials-on-the-blockchain-899a6b880b2f#.fznkptyyc
08:12 < kanzure> jeremyrubin: merkle trees would have worked just fine here
08:17 < bsm1175321> Seems to me these blockcerts are worthless unless you know who is issuing them and who they're about.  But the explicitly say identity is "out of scope"?!?!
08:18 < kanzure> if you are stamping a hash then you might as well use timestamping.
08:18 < kanzure> inclusion is still the responsibility of the client to check, just like before
08:18 < kanzure> "zk-SNARK parameter multi-party computation protocol" https://github.com/zcash/mpc
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09:00 < uiuc-slack1> <amiller> aint no party like a multi party
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09:45 < Thomas__> has anybody seen any stratum software that will work with zcash so far?
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11:26 < jeremyrubin> kanzure: I think because they wanted revocation
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11:27 < jeremyrubin> (fyi I'm only marginally involved in the project, I did tell them about how merkelizing things would work, and discussed threat model)
11:27 < jeremyrubin> bsm1175321: you don't need to solve every problem in a techncial spec.
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11:28 < jeremyrubin> I think issuance and lookup are indepenent from identity resolving.
11:28 < jeremyrubin> e.g., TCP/IP and DNS are different things
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11:33 < kanzure> you could do regular scheduled expiry, then revocation would be oops no more inclusion in future merkle roots. also, the tree deltas/updates would have to be tracked by the cert owners i guess.
11:34 < kanzure> (or at least updates to make proofs still work for each user, rather. you don't need whole tree updates to be given to the users, clearly.)
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11:41 < jeremyrubin> I think they want to protect users in the case of entity-went-out-of-business
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12:56 < kanzure> an old proposal for a segwit-based soft-fork for confidential transactions  https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-January/012194.html
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15:31 < midnightmagic> a functional network..?
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19:09 < nicolagreco> What are the state of the art practices for private key management?
19:10 < nicolagreco> (I am mainly interested in the ones that take into account replication)
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19:11 < nicolagreco> (A la Shamir secret sharing)
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