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stevenroose> Does the bitcoin messaging protocol currently have a way to signal support for network/messaging features that are not part of the core protocol so are not part of the consensus system? 03:02 < stevenroose> Oh, I was looking for a way to extend the messaging protocol opt-in, but it looks like the default behavior is to ignore messages you don't know about 03:03 < stevenroose> (cfr encinit in bip151), so it's not necessary to do that 03:03 < stevenroose> however if every extension of the messaging protocol will happen with a probe message to see of peers respond, it might be more efficient to have it included somewhere in the version message 03:04 -!- DigiByteDev [~JT2@223.197.66.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:05 < stevenroose> a freely extendible alternative of the service bits in the version message might be useful 03:07 < stevenroose> the reason why I'm thinking of this is that it would allow non-consensus extensions like subchains to be tested immediately 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17:02 < tromp_> i mean factoring composite numbers is more interesting:) 17:06 < petertodd> tromp: yeah, I meant that as "factor things into primes" :) 17:07 < petertodd> tromp: eh, in the context of someone so excited about RSA that they'd skip their own wedding, I think it's a reasonable mistake to make! 17:08 < tromp_> like i said, i was just curious if you had inserted that excitement on purpose:) 17:08 < petertodd> tromp: I'm not sure I'd quite say "on purpose" - but it's a good excuse :) 17:09 < petertodd> tromp: it actually took me awhile before I came up with a wording that sounded natural; my first (more accurate) attempts didn't sound right 17:09 < tromp_> btw. my CUDA equihash solver is now far behind the state of the art 17:09 < petertodd> tromp: oh yeah? where are we now? 17:09 < tromp_> it does about 33 Sol/s where the latest GPU miners reach 200 Sol/s 17:10 < tromp_> although those are all on AMD/openCL 17:10 < petertodd> tromp: how much ram do they use? 17:10 < Taek> how fast can the best cpu implementation go? 17:10 < tromp_> CUDA has claimed 134 Sol/s miner, but supposedly sold for private use, so unverifiable 17:11 < tromp_> cpu tops at about 30 Sol/s 17:11 < tromp_> by running multiple single threaded solvers 17:11 < tromp_> GPU solvers vary in memory use 17:11 < tromp_> between 200 and 800 MB mostly 17:12 < tromp_> sometimes multiplies by 2 or 3 instances 17:12 < petertodd> tromp: hmm, the low end of that is low enough some fpgas have that available on chip (ignoring the brand new high-end HBM stuff I mention in my blog post) 17:12 < Taek> tromp_: do you have any knowledge about what % of the hashrate is currently CPU mining? This is a great time to verify the hypothesis that it's good enough to be within an order of magnitude 17:13 < tromp_> high memory fpga's are very expensive though and wont be competitive 17:13 < petertodd> tromp: it's also interesting to note that SRAM has better power efficiency than DRAM, even for high usage applications 17:13 < tromp_> SRAM also not cost effective at 100x higher expense 17:13 < tromp_> for only 10x performance incr 17:13 < petertodd> tromp: they are, but they are expensive because of inefficiencies inherent to FPGAs, and low yields; they suggest what's possible on an ASIC 17:14 < tromp_> my hope is that widespread use of memory hard pow will lead to energy use improvements in commodity drdam 17:14 < tromp_> DRAM 17:14 < petertodd> tromp: again, don't be sure that 100x higher expense is the limit of what's possible; there's likely all kinds of interesting improvements you can make when you sacrifice specifications that PoW doesn't need, like reliability 17:15 < petertodd> tromp: so basically, you're hoping people will make ASICs for it... 17:15 < tromp_> ASIC memory controllers, basically 17:15 < tromp_> but they dont need to be all that optimized 17:15 < tromp_> only to saturate DRAM 17:16 < tromp_> and are more easily added to consumer electronics that alrd have DRAM than bitcoin ASICS 17:16 < petertodd> tromp: commodity DRAM isn't even optimised right for that usecase; hence GDDR's bandwidth specialization, and more recently, high-bandwidth-ram 17:17 -!- bitcoin-wizards1 [6a45d36d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.69.211.109] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:17 -!- bitcoin-wizards2 [6a45d36d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.69.211.109] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:17 < tromp_> but energy efficient RAM of whatever kind, has big enough advatages to become commoditized 17:18 < petertodd> tromp: there's already pressure to make RAM energy efficient; making things energy efficient for PoW will most likely involve tradeofs that make it no longer commodity 17:19 < tromp_> see my cuckoo cycle project page where i discuss that 17:19 < tromp_> DRAM can indeed use energy improvements; and they benefit everyone 17:20 < petertodd> tromp: yes I read that; highly specialized ram that meets your criteria already exists, and it does that by making tradeoffs that don't make sense for commodity ram 17:20 < tromp_> right now DRAM is overly optimized for performance/dollar, at the expense of energy efficiency 17:20 < tromp_> the papers i mention propose changes that make a lot of sense for commodity ram 17:21 < tromp_> one problem is they need joint developement of better memory controllers 17:21 < petertodd> tromp: DRAM comes in multiple different types you know, optimized in different ways 17:22 < tromp_> what we need is more configurable DRAM that can dynamically adapt bus width 17:23 < tromp_> and other parameters 17:24 < petertodd> ...so we need something that's no what's available commodity. Maybe ram PoW will drive those changes; IMO it's more likely thtat just shows that the idea is still such that custom hardware can be built with big efficiency improvements over commodity. 17:26 < petertodd> tromp: for a while when writing my cypherpunk desert bus post, I had briefly mistaken your cuckoo cycle github page for equihash, and got exicted when you had basically made my point for me :) but then I realised I was mistaken, and had to work for a few more hours to make it 17:27 < tromp_> nice write-up of your ceremony participation 17:28 < tromp_> i wondered why you didn't invite a friend a long to help out with things 17:28 < petertodd> thanks! 17:28 < petertodd> basically because the reality of hardware security is that a "friend" could have easily backdoored the laptop 17:29 < petertodd> so the result would have been parameters where you had to trust myself _and_ that friend to be honest 17:29 < tromp_> most ppl who trust you will also trust you to pick your friends 17:30 < petertodd> tromp: they shouldn't - and hell, the pool of people I know who were in a position to do that is pretty small; remember that I already asked someone and didn't get a response back in time 17:31 < tromp_> i see 17:31 < tromp_> did you keep the dvd's? 17:31 < petertodd> tromp: yes 17:32 < tromp_> are there published checksums of them? 17:32 < petertodd> tromp: most everything is stored in a tamper evident fashion in a secret location 17:32 < petertodd> tromp: yes 17:32 < petertodd> tromp: er, actually, not yet published; need to make a github repo public 17:33 < petertodd> tromp: but they're committed via a tweet I made after the ceremony 17:34 < tromp_> ok; so ppl can at least convince themselves that what you wrote on your dvd's is what's actually part of the publick key 17:35 < petertodd> yes, and also we can audit the dvds to see if there were any compromises done via the dvd communication mechanism (subject to the caveat that dvd's are complex things and not necessarily write-once) 17:37 < tromp_> have the other 5 participants published anything about their particpation yet? 17:37 < tromp_> your is the first i see 17:37 < tromp_> yours 17:37 < petertodd> tromp: I'm aware of one other writeup, but I'm not sure if the author meant to make it public yet 17:38 < kanzure> hash it 17:39 < petertodd> kanzure: I timestamped it IIRC 17:39 < kanzure> okie dokie 17:40 < kanzure> are you timestamping irc logs? 17:40 < petertodd> kanzure: fafa1cc8d2f4dd05fe767bf71d6b707575888a09 17:40 < petertodd> kanzure: yes, but not on a real-time basis; monthly approximately 17:40 < kanzure> ok thanks 17:52 -!- igno_peverell [~igno_pev@gateway/tor-sasl/ignopeverell/x-86067662] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:02 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vradyoqiiswplhbd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:23 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:27 -!- se3000 [~textual@38.125.163.25] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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