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PM me 13:50 < adlai> there was some talk in the JM channel about whether people trade based on utxo grouping heuristics. i believe a less noisy indicator would be a much more trivial one - coin-days-destroyed 13:50 < adlai> (this being a followup to the spying paper) 13:54 < uiuc-slack> what is the spying paper? 13:54 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54 < uiuc-slack> i guess its this stuff: https://gist.github.com/chris-belcher/00255ecfe1bc4984fcf7c65e25aa8b4b 13:54 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-123-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:56 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:56 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:56 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:58 -!- Starduster [~guest@unaffiliated/starduster] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:58 < waxwing> amiller no, this: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.06747v3.pdf 13:59 < uiuc-slack> thanks 13:59 < waxwing> data analysis is old (2013-14) but paper is new 14:07 -!- aaaaaa [~aaaaaa@103.5.140.141] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:08 -!- kenshi84 [~kenshi84@2400:7800:48db:9100:e812:8bc3:21d1:c55d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09 -!- kenshi84 [~kenshi84@2400:7800:48db:9100:e812:8bc3:21d1:c55d] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:10 -!- aaaaaa_ [~aaaaaa@103.5.140.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:13 -!- kenshi84 [~kenshi84@2400:7800:48db:9100:e812:8bc3:21d1:c55d] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:19 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: igno_peverell, arubi, wasi 14:23 -!- jannes [~jannes@095-097-246-234.static.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:24 -!- priidu [~priidu@unaffiliated/priidu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:30 -!- brg444 [~bergealex@qubcpq1531w-lp130-02-65-92-224-54.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31 -!- brg444 [~bergealex@qubcpq1531w-lp130-02-65-92-224-54.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:35 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:37 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:37 -!- Emcy [~MC@cpc13-swan4-2-0-cust361.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:37 -!- Emcy [~MC@unaffiliated/mc1984] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:45 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:46 -!- brg444 [~bergealex@qubcpq1531w-lp130-02-65-92-224-54.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:46 -!- brg444 [~bergealex@qubcpq1531w-lp130-02-65-92-224-54.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:48 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@47-41-33-247.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:57 -!- nonaTure [~nonaTure@79.100.141.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:02 -!- Aloxander [~Aloxander@5356380E.cm-6-7a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Now watch out for enemies in the asteroid field!?] 23:05 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:27 -!- Uglux [~uglux@p4FE96A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:27 -!- Uglux [~uglux@p4FE96A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 23:27 -!- Uglux [~uglux@unaffiliated/uglux] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:37 -!- dabura667 [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrymukbeqwqoprbc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:41 -!- LeMiner [~LeMiner@unaffiliated/leminer] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:43 -!- nonaTure [~nonaTure@79.100.141.58] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:43 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:48 -!- PRab_ [~chatzilla@c-68-62-95-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:49 -!- PRab [~chatzilla@c-68-62-95-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:50 -!- PRab_ is now known as PRab 23:51 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:56 < adam3us> i have been wondering that it's a pity there is no way (currently) to cut through chains of transactions that complete in the same block. ie c1 -> a,c2; c2-> b,c3 could be re-encoded as single tx c1->a,b,c3 with asymptotic saving of 50% of transaction space. it might be nice if there were a way to allow miners to transform the former into the latter. 23:56 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:57 < adam3us> gmaxwell was suggesting opt-in RBF could do that... broadcast both tx variants. it's a bit mimblewimble like in intent - collapse a useless tracing of temporary to same block ownership immediately flushed (the c2 change output) --- Log closed Thu Jan 05 00:00:56 2017