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kept running into problems though :/ I've now got a pile of 20 odd pages of scribbled equations, probably 100% of them wrong :) 05:10 < petertodd> kanzure: nifty, sounds like Cantena is a worked out implementation of exactly the kind of bitcoin auditable logs I've been arguing for 05:11 < kanzure> alright 05:11 < petertodd> kanzure: though, the writeup has a lot of weirdness in it, like saying that the P2P network doesn't have enough capacity for Cantena... I mean, technically yes, but that's really missin the point :( 05:12 < petertodd> kanzure: have to read it more closely, but I think my single-use-seals are an improvement over Cantena, as you don't need bloom filters 05:12 < petertodd> kanzure: e.g. what I published here: https://petertodd.org/2016/commitments-and-single-use-seals 05:13 < petertodd> kanzure: also, Cantena doesn't appear to make any progress on proving the absense of statements - that is preventing double spends 05:14 < petertodd> kanzure: oh, and re: Cantena's op_return thing, I have prior art on them in unique bits from over 2 years ago: https://github.com/petertodd/uniquebits 05:16 < petertodd> kanzure: so my objection to Cantena would be, because it's relying on bloom filters it's insecure; single-use-seals are secure with only block headers 05:24 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:30 -!- jcluck is now known as cluckj 05:38 -!- GAit [~GAit@unaffiliated/gait] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 05:39 -!- reBrain [~quassel@unaffiliated/rebrain] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:41 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:42 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 05:45 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:306:b8e0:8160:2d23:af30:b0e3:7371] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:50 -!- atgreen [~green@38.104.156.251] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:11 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:12 -!- Uglux [~uglux@unaffiliated/uglux] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:39 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@79.98.72.176] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:39 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@79.98.72.176] has quit [Changing host] 06:39 -!- paveljanik [~paveljani@unaffiliated/paveljanik] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:44 -!- aalex [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:44 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 06:49 -!- hashtag [~hashtagg_@cpe-174-97-254-80.ma.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:00 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:05 -!- pero [~pero@unaffiliated/pero] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:05 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:06 -!- Sosumi [~Leon@bl10-113-190.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:11 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.179.217.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:23 -!- str4d [~str4d@212.91.77.40] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:24 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.179.217.229] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:32 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc34f.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:33 < bsm117532> I really don't understand the motivation behind the "private key locked transactions" paper. When would you ever want to reveal a privkey? In all circumstances I can think of, proving posession of the privkey via a ECDSA signature or hash-locking is superior. A revealed privkey is useless. It's not private anymore. 07:36 -!- fibonacci [uid136497@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugksjwosrfuarccl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:37 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fluffypony, raccoon 07:39 -!- 8OWAAAK76 [wayward@irchelp/raccoon] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fluffypony 07:47 < stevenroose> bsm117532, what paper? 07:47 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:47 < bsm117532> (21:31:17) kanzure: "Bitcoin Private Key Locked Transactions" http://eprint.iacr.org/2016/1184 07:52 -!- pero [~pero@unaffiliated/pero] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:55 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:03 -!- handlex [~handlex@179.214.98.122] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:04 -!- ipwn [~ipwn@bl18-232-89.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:12 -!- handlex [~handlex@179.214.98.122] has quit [Quit: handlex] 08:14 -!- SirJacket 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